A GODLY WOMANS ROLE IN THE HOME

[Adrian Lamar West Sr.]

As an inquiring brother would like to know what you Godly Sisters, Mothers, and Wives feel your position in the home is

[HOPE - Psalm 43:5]

The playful sarcasm has been tabled since it has offended. Please accept my apologies for that.

As for my comment that He gave men instructions is most definitely biblical and the instructions are found in the same passage where women are instructed. The passage in question is the one that I have been mentioning all along. Ephesians 5:22-33. Those are most definitely instructions for a man's role as well as a woman's role... as well as the passage I Cor 7.

You have me terribly mistaken.....I have never said that a woman is not to submit to her husband just because he isn't hearing from the Father. NOR do I advise a man not to fulfill his role just because Miss Lady isn't doing what she should be doing also.


"Men and women have to get in their perspective roles REGARDLESS of what the other is or is not doing"..... your statement is EXACTLY...why I warn both men and women not to enter into marriage lightly. (experience is a teacher indeed...) When you enter into a covenant relationship with a person who has NO IDEA of what their role is or has their own idea of what their role is then you will have to stay in that relationship and fulfill your role.....REGARDLESS.

Marriage should be forever even if there is infidelity...if both come to agreement...even that can be corrected, forgiven and moved passed.

Please don't mistake my sarcasm for some hiddend or blatant feminist ideology....I am far from that. I'm trying to figure out how my statements were feminist...because they weren't. Sarcastic...well yes they were and I own up to that....but I was being playful in my sarcasm. And yes, I did address the issue. The sarcasm just made it distasteful but not untrue.


"3rd grade"..and ."feminist"..... to that I can only humbly respond touche'

And I humbly say to you and the other gentlemen, "Monsieur et mon amis. Je m'excuse moi si'l vous plait. Est-ce que c'est bien?


Topic tabled.

Sabbat Shalom

[John]

Was your last sentence speaking in tongues? LOL My dear no apologies necessary to me because I thought it was in jest! Though some of your comments seem to be men vs women in regards to everytime you mention something about the woman you add for the man also. This one is about the woman's role not the man's. The other post was about the man. It's not pick on women time just a legitimate question as the post for the same with men's role in the home. It's all good and I know where I am in life and the 3rd grade has good memories for me. LOL God bless. Now tell me what you said in French with the apologies.

[HOPE - Psalm 43:5]

Johnny Appleseed,

You thought it was in jest because in such a short time you have come to recognize my vernacular and I luv ya for it -- (smile)

I knew the way I was going to answer the question would not be received because it was MY way of answering. There were no parameter set for how to answer but to just answer. I added men to my answer for the sake of balance. Even though the question was about women, the first balance I brought was that the topic was asked about men also. There is no peace in the home when there is an unbalance.

"you need to know YOUR role! No, you need to know YOUR role... " -- a merry-go-round at best.

So to discuss, ad nauseum, the role of one with out the beautifully designed balance and complimentary role of the other...is fruitless and leads to strife and division. I'm not a divisive person but I do believe strongly in and am passionate about the ministry of reconciliation and the word of reconciliation (it's biblical... I'll let ya fangers do the walkin' since did the talkin' LOL).

So, no matter how the question was posed, my answer would have remained the same, received or not received. I don't deal with symptoms, I deal with the root. My question would not have been what is his role or her role but what are THEIR roles as ONE. The two become ONE. The root is division is the reason for the symptoms and focusing on the symptom not the root cause....uh oh... there I go...let me go to the translation and leave that alone.


"Monsieur et mon amis.

Basically I addressed brother Moreh formally since I realized I had offended him and because he is a leader...I also addressed you and Adrian as friends because I didn't want to purposely offend either of you as well.

Je m'excuse moi si'l vous plait.

This is translated please excuse me (a somewhat less formal and more familiar or friendly way of saying, I apologize)

Est-ce que c'est bien?"

Basically meaning "is it ok or accepted or definite"

The entire phrase could have been worded better but I am not yet fluent in French but I love the language and use it when I can.


My "3rd grade" remark, although facetious and flippant, was unwarranted. I meant no harm but there was a foul and Moreh called out my "dirty laundry on the playing field" LOL (that's a football reference...)

[HOPE - Psalm 43:5]

Moreh, you are...

Gregarious, Righteous. Relentless. Relevant. Eloquent And True....

GRRREAT!

(smile)

[John]

Yeah Sister Tracy, swell his head with that comment of GRRREAT!
LOL Just kidding. Enoy your weekend. I had to reply to that and since I couldn't under her's I'm doing it here. Much love Brother Moreh.

[John]

As I said I thought it was all in fun as you do and I took no offense. I have thick skin and do know that some posts warrant replies or rebuttals that seem to bring about frustrations and perceived anger. I told you before no apologies necessary to me and I meant it. If you felt you had to apologize to me for something then I will say apologies accepted only so you don't think it's ignored but you never have to do that to me because I'm not one to harbor anything from one's replies to me because I take it as what is felt inside and nothing wrong with that to me even if I don't agree with it. I too provide answers that aren't accepted or appreciated but that's the nature of forums to me. I don't blatantly try to offend anyone with what I perceive to be my honest replies but I'm sure it comes off that way and especially if it's something I am adamant about. Then at times I can cross the line. But then get over it and let's continue in love and understand we can agree to disagree and still be alright with one another. Much love.

[HOPE - Psalm 43:5]

I give each of you a blue rose ... the meaning... well now that's a whole other disucssion. LOL

I'm out... enjoy your weekend.