Are Veiled Threats Coming Down Upon The Black Church, Now? - Black Preaching Network2024-03-29T02:34:09Zhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/are-veiled-threats-coming-down-upon-the-black-church-now?commentId=916966%3AComment%3A4361761&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThe IRS will become a thing o…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2013-10-11:916966:Comment:57640902013-10-11T16:52:07.666ZDianeFridayFundraiserSpecialisthttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/DianeFriday
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<p>What your not comprehending is that YOU are not Paul.</p>
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<p>What there is a lot of hurting people that do not need to get beat up? Scripture was written mostly for the church or God's people and not the non-believer.</p>
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<p>I can quote you scripture up side and down the other, but this is not the place where you find the general public. I mean we can sit around and have a mutual admiration society, happy that we are so knowledgeable, but that is not what wins the…</p>
<p>What your not comprehending is that YOU are not Paul.</p>
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<p>What there is a lot of hurting people that do not need to get beat up? Scripture was written mostly for the church or God's people and not the non-believer.</p>
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<p>I can quote you scripture up side and down the other, but this is not the place where you find the general public. I mean we can sit around and have a mutual admiration society, happy that we are so knowledgeable, but that is not what wins the battle.</p>
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<p>My point is love conquers all, not knowledge.</p>
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<p>What business is it for you to talk about anyone? What your failing to see for some reason is the only reason one can talk about another is if they feel superior or inferior, either of which is not the Spirit of God.</p>
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<p>Obama is Obama and gays are gays. They were created and given breath by the Holy Spirit. It is much like the message we find in the little book of Jude where Michael of whom I admire greatly is taunted by Satan. To me I would have blasted Satan, but Micheal kept his tongue and said nothing, because he realized that it was the Holy Spirit that gave Lucifer life and who was he to criticize the Holy Spirit and that is what you are doing by banging on people. </p>
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<p>I am a sinner, saved by grace taken from the streets and taught by the Holy Spirit. He got me through college and taught me much. What I do is share my life with people or anything else I have to share. I do not quote scripture up one side and down the other, but share love.</p>
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<p>Tom McLaughlin was one of my mentors and he taught me a thing or two about people. Tom worked at a rescue mission and prior to Tom's arrival they used to make people listen to a sermon before they were given something to eat. He changed all of that and feed everyone that had need and if they wanted to listen the could and were welcomed, but not forced to do anything. As a result of his way of doing things the mission grew and people were set free and did not return for the most part. You see prior to that everyone went forward, got saved so they could get something to eat. </p>
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<p><br/>Sure fear works for a short period of time, but in the long run people rebel and worse they fall away. Love is the only thing that works and when there is love people do not talk about Obama or gays or anything else except love and how much they love each other because God, who like me, took people just like me and the woman at the well and loved people like me and as a result I follow.</p>
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<p>God has spoken to me a couple times in a clear loud audible voice outside of me twice. I have in a dream been to heaven and met angels and even met Jesus a few times. With all the times that I have met Him and He talks to me as well as the Heart of God has talked to me they have never talked about my short comings. I was amazed as I figured I would really get it.</p>
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<p>Here is what I have learned and you can either accept it or reject it but the reason God and His people do not talk about peoples short comings no matter what the short comings are is that first it judges people and secondly it binds them in their sin.</p>
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<p>When Paul wrote what he did he was writing to a church he had already stayed with and taught. He was not writing to people outside of the body of Christ and that really is a big difference.</p>
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<p>What you or I or anyone else has to offer is our testimony of what we have experienced or we have to offer a lot of scripture. Offering love and your testimony will work far greater than your judgment of anyone including Obama and gays. You see if you belong to Him then in honesty all you can say is that He accepted you as a sinner, just as you were and that is what we are to do with people as well? Yes Jesus criticized the leaders in the church of that time because they knew better, which really is different than the woman at the well; You see she, like me was cast out of the church, because we are bad people. That is what you are doing when you talk about gays as you do, but if your going to be a disciple then you should do what Jesus did? </p>
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<p>Here is a fact and this came from Jesus directly "they will know that you are mine by your love one for the other." You will note He did not say that they will know you are mine by how well you can teach or preach or quote scripture or even heal the sick or raise the dead, which is fairly impressive? No, He said they will know that your are mine by your love one for the other. Love does not put others down. When you are talking about Obama or gays that is a put down and it can only be done by one who feels like they are better than the other.</p>
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<p>Yes I probably will rant and rave at people that rant about others? Maybe that's not the best way to do it, but for Bible thumper's it is really difficult to get a word in edge wise. Love is more difficult than thumping. Love is kind. It is gentle.</p>
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<p>Really it works better than quoting the King James Bible and if you knew about King James you would know that he had it put together so he could control people. He was a horrible king. On the other hand if God speaks to you directly that really is something to share and you should.</p>
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<p>The difference between beliefs and experience is that it takes no experience to talk about beliefs. Experience is about what you can testify to or something you have experience or witnessed. Beliefs start wars and do all sorts of wonderful things against humanity. Beliefs on their own get attached to ones values, which if the belief is taken away the person feels like they have lost their value. Experience on the other hand is something you have personally witnessed which cannot be taken away from you.</p>
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<p>Today we live in a time where there is a form of godliness, but without the power. I like Moses went up the mountain. I like Daniel was cast into the lions den or like David stood before Goliath. I can testify to that and in all honesty it scared the crap out of me, but I can testify to the fact that God's promise to me was that He would keep and protect me and He did. Sharing what you have experienced edifies people and that is the point of what I was saying before.</p>
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<p>I have no doubt you can copy and paste and even quote a lot of scripture. Great we all can do that. Some of us have even been to Bible college. Who cares? Obama and the gays and all the sinners do not care. What they care about is if you love them enough to walk with them even if they are goofier than a box of rocks and if your really honest with yourself we all are? I am.</p>
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I see now how yo…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-08-22:916966:Comment:43617172012-08-22T18:07:21.897ZSis. Dedre Simmshttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/SisDedreSimms
<p>Dear Sister:</p>
<p>I see now how you have taken such an exception to the most benign of motives and intentions; such as a heart-felt blessing that you, somehow, twist into an offense. This is just down right, . . BIZARRE! </p>
<p>You asked me, . . . "Do I know how that sounds, really?" Yeah, I think so, . .I think I read something similar to it before like right here:</p>
<h1>3 John Chapter 1</h1>
<h2 style="color: #ff0000; font-weight: lighter;">. . . . Peace <em>be</em> to thee.…</h2>
<p>Dear Sister:</p>
<p>I see now how you have taken such an exception to the most benign of motives and intentions; such as a heart-felt blessing that you, somehow, twist into an offense. This is just down right, . . BIZARRE! </p>
<p>You asked me, . . . "Do I know how that sounds, really?" Yeah, I think so, . .I think I read something similar to it before like right here:</p>
<h1>3 John Chapter 1</h1>
<h2 style="color: #ff0000; font-weight: lighter;">. . . . Peace <em>be</em> to thee. <em>Our</em> friends salute thee. Greet the friends by name.</h2>
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<p>AND HERE;</p>
<h1>Jude 1:2</h1>
<h2 style="color: #ff0000; font-weight: lighter;">Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied.</h2>
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<p>AND HERE:</p>
<h1>John 20:21</h1>
<h2 style="color: #ff0000; font-weight: lighter;">Then said Jesus to them again, Peace <em>be</em> unto you: as <em>my</em> Father hath sent me, even so send I you.</h2>
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<h1>Matthew 10:13, 14, 15, 16</h1>
<h2 style="color: #ff0000; font-weight: lighter;">And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.</h2>
<h2 style="color: #ff0000; font-weight: lighter;">And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.</h2>
<h2 style="color: #ff0000; font-weight: lighter;">Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.</h2>
<h2 style="color: #ff0000; font-weight: lighter;">Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.</h2>
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<p>The blessing I wished for you was just that - as harmless as a dove. Now I will be as wise as a serpent by realizing there are some deep, deep issues here with you and I, frankly, don't have the energy to wade into long term, nor do I desire to indulge in an ENDLESS, RAMBLING. COMBATIVE, CONVERSATION WITH YOU THAT NEITHER EDIFIES ME, YOU, OTHERS HERE OR THE BODY OF CHRIST. </p>
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<p>It appears I 'hit a nerve somewhere'. .shall we say, for you to take such issue over us discussing the open assault of the homosexual communities upon our Christian homes, churches.</p>
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<p>Whether you yourself are dealing with homosexual tendencies; or perhaps, are presently fully embracing homosexuality in your life, . NO ONE COULD DARE TO OFFER YOU GOD'S WORD IN THE HOPE OF GRACE ABOUNDING, OR COMFORT OR OF DELIVERANCE for yourself. So don't worry, I won't ask your permission to pray for you, I'll just do it anyway. Sister, homosexuals need hope and answers found only in Jesus Christ, . . . NOT ENABLERS!</p>
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<p>You are offended over words or concepts like "gray areas"?</p>
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<p>And what about this 'doozie' of a head scratcher, " . . . . . You seem to think that you are here to teach and preach what is right and wrong?"</p>
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<p>AND THIS ONE?. . . . "That comes from a dominate spirit a spirit that feels that it is over others as you are better than others."</p>
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<p>" . . Uh, . . . 'Sister-Girl', . . . what wrong with ME preaching that? Does one have to have YOUR permission to do it? <strong><em>TOTALLY BIZARRE!!!</em></strong></p>
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<p>AND FOR YOU TO SAY THIS?</p>
<p>" . . . It's sort of the same thing when we are talking about gays in here? Why talk about it? You do cause it makes you feel like your doing something. Otherwise you wouldn't be doing it. It is easier to talk about Obama and gays instead of the things we should be talking about."</p>
<p>WOW. . . this one needs repeating again, . . . . <em>"cause it makes you feel like your doing something." </em></p>
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<address>Sister, I feel such overwhelming grief and compassion for gays because I truly dread the fallen state they are in before God, with only so many opportunities to get right before Christ returns. </address>
<address>This one scripture passage woke me up and gave me a clear window into the posture God himself will take with unrepentant sinners. ( THAT MEANS LIARS, THIEVES, REPROBATES, WHOREMONGERS AND GAYS, TOO.) </address>
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<p>(And if it just so happens that it "'irks the hell out of you"' for me to bring 'scripture' into this, then that's a GOOD THING!)</p>
<h1>2 Thessalonians Chapter 2:9-13</h1>
<h2 style="color: #ff0000; font-weight: lighter;"><em>Even him</em>, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,</h2>
<h2 style="color: #ff0000; font-weight: lighter;">And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.</h2>
<h2 style="color: #ff0000; font-weight: lighter;">And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:</h2>
<h2 style="color: #ff0000; font-weight: lighter;">That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.</h2>
<h2 style="color: #ff0000; font-weight: lighter;">But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:</h2>
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<p>Read this again and get mad at God, sister, not me, or anyone else. AND, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!</p>
<p class="indenttwo"><sup style="color: #666666;">10</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Thessalonians-2-10/" title="View more translations of 2 Thessalonians 2:10">And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish;...</a></p>
<p class="indenttwo"><sup style="color: #666666;">11</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Thessalonians-2-11/" title="View more translations of 2 Thessalonians 2:11">And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they s...</a></p>
<p class="indenttwo"><sup style="color: #666666;">12</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Thessalonians-2-12/" title="View more translations of 2 Thessalonians 2:12">That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had p...</a></p>
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<p class="indenttwo">So, you are free to rant, rave and RAMBLE ON, INCOHERENTLY, on this post TO YOUR HEART'S CONTENT, I will try to ignore them to the best of my ability for THE SAKE OF PEACE . From your OWN WORDS, IT SEEMS TO HAPPEN WITH YOU A LOT HERE. I'm sure you''ll take offense at that, too, so be it!. </p>
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<p class="indenttwo">I mean this in love, too. Maybe the Apostle Paul's admonishment is to be heeded here by us all.</p>
<p class="indent"><sup style="color: #666666;">1</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Timothy-3-1/" title="View more translations of 2 Timothy 3:1">This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.</a></p>
<p class="indent"><sup style="color: #666666;">2</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Timothy-3-2/" title="View more translations of 2 Timothy 3:2">For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, pr...</a></p>
<p class="indent"><sup style="color: #666666;">3</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Timothy-3-3/" title="View more translations of 2 Timothy 3:3">Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontine...</a></p>
<p class="indent"><sup style="color: #666666;">4</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Timothy-3-4/" title="View more translations of 2 Timothy 3:4">Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers o...</a></p>
<p class="indent"><sup style="color: #666666;">5</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Timothy-3-5/" title="View more translations of 2 Timothy 3:5">Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from suc...</a></p>
<p class="indent"><sup style="color: #666666;">6</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Timothy-3-6/" title="View more translations of 2 Timothy 3:6">For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive...</a></p>
<p class="indent"><strong><sup style="color: #666666; text-decoration: underline;">7</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Timothy-3-7/" title="View more translations of 2 Timothy 3:7">Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.</a></strong></p>
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<p class="indent"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em><strong>HALLELUJAH!!!!</strong></em></span></p> Sis. Dedre Simms said, "We ar…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-08-22:916966:Comment:43606892012-08-22T04:32:57.149ZDr Sarah Carrolhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/DrSarahCarrol
<p><a class="fn url" href="http://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=1uhm6wlbuvgzr">Sis. Dedre Simms</a> said, "We are commanded to speak his words,"</p>
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<p>Yes I would encourage you to speak His words. The point being go hear from Him and speak what He has to say. Of course your going to take it as that your supposed to go quote scripture, and if YOU believe scripture is true and your going to follow it and do what they did in scripture, find in scripture were…</p>
<p><a href="http://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=1uhm6wlbuvgzr" class="fn url">Sis. Dedre Simms</a> said, "We are commanded to speak his words,"</p>
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<p>Yes I would encourage you to speak His words. The point being go hear from Him and speak what He has to say. Of course your going to take it as that your supposed to go quote scripture, and if YOU believe scripture is true and your going to follow it and do what they did in scripture, find in scripture were Jesus told anyone to go out and quote scripture? Please really?</p>
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<p>Please while you are at it find any scripture where Jesus said to go tell gays they are condemned to hell? I mean if your going to say that scripture is your guide then let scripture be your guide and do exactly what Jesus did. Jesus came first for the church and scripture by the way is mostly for believer and not the non-believer. So when we go back in the OT and it talks about what we think of as homosexual activity it was written for the Jews and yes feel free to apply it to your life. That is a fine thing, that was not written to go out there and tell gays they are sinners, because it leads people to believe that YOU are without sin.</p>
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<p>Now if you are without sin, then yes please speak about sin and how bad it is. You can't and no one can, because it clearly says also that if we say we have no sin we make Him a liar and the truth is not in us. You and or I or anyone does not have a right to say this one sins or that one is in sin. In fact if God shows you someone is in sin, your supposed to pray for them that they may see the light. If someone sins against you, you are to go to an elder of the church as a witness if you can not resolve it with the person directly. That is your recourse.</p>
<p><br/>No where in scripture does it say to quote scripture at people, so if you say you believe in scripture; wonderful follow it, do it, but that does not give you the right or me or anyone the right to go pick up a Bible and start preaching in the park or anywhere else for that matter. Yes people come to Christ and fall away because no one is there to raise the children properly so which is a worse sin? Sure we get to stand before God and yes we will be judged, but what He cares about and if we are His people, is raising the babies.</p>
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<p>Prison ministry is a horrible thing to watch for the most part. Preachers and good people that mean well come in and tell people they are sinners and going to hell. Like dah they don't know they are messed up? I mean takes a real idiot not to get that one? So they accept Christ and look to their Spiritual parents who led them to Christ, come to find out that the love to raise them or even communicate with them is not there.</p>
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<p>It's sort of the same thing when we are talking about gays in here? Why talk about it? You do cause it makes you feel like your doing something. Otherwise you wouldn't be doing it. It is easier to talk about Obama and gays instead of the things we should be talking about. Now that is not meant as a put down and I really am not trying to be offensive, I am trying to reach out with love and really trying to explain this and why it is so important you not talk about gays.</p>
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<p>You have the power to loose and bind. You do so with your lips and when you talk about gays your binding them in what they are doing. When we talk about a persons sin we praise the sin. What we should be talking about is what God is saying to you and if He is not talking to you directly you should wait on Him and listen and be still and wait to hear from Him, because He is still talking today, but not many are taking the time to listen, They do however go to a lot of Bible studies.</p>
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<p>Are Bible studies bad? Of course not, but it is just the beginning. Not until recently did we even have a Bible. In the New Testament which some monk put together thinking it started with Matthew, the New Covenant really started in Acts Chapter 2. From that point on it was the Holy Spirit that lead them to write what they did, but they were letters to the churches they started for them most part looking at Paul's letters. They are not complete, because no one knows what Paul said when he came into town. He didn't have scrolls or Torah. All he had was the Holy Spirit and in truth that is all we have and that is what we should be sharing with each other. When we hear from the Holy Spirit that is part of our testimony and that is really what we have to share, the rest of it is beliefs and all beliefs are second best to the real thing.</p>
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<p>Today in most churches congregations employee pastors and pastors work really hard to find something fresh to talk about, so they study and study and study some more just in case they missed something, but that is not how it works in the real deal, we lead by example. Pastors are not leading by example but are hidden behind church walls. It happens that way because no one wants to go up the mountain to face God directly as Moses did, but we are actually all called to go up the mountain, leaving everything behind and listen; I mean honestly few if any are preaching that?</p>
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<p>You see it is the same Spirit that works in me to write what I do as the Spirit that was in Paul and the same Spirit you have and the reason people should be following you is not because you can quote scripture or have great opinions, it is because you hear from God. If they are following you for any other reason you will lead them astray somewhere. That is not to pick on you, but that is what happens and it happens all the time.</p>
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<p>Not to be offensive, but you came here to tell me we are not supposed to conform to the world where there is no "gray", is because you figured I needed to hear that, like I didn't know that. I knew that already. That comes from a dominate spirit a spirit that feels that it is over others as you are better than others. It comes from knowledge.</p>
<p><br/>I mean I send you God's peace? Really? You have any idea how that sounds?</p>
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<p>You seem to think that you are here to teach and preach what is right and wrong? The point of it all is to be the example and if we sin, then forgive people because we too are putzes. As I said before it is not that I am getting on you, but trying to offer a hand out of love.</p> Dear Sister:
I think I missed…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-08-22:916966:Comment:43603752012-08-22T01:17:21.562ZSis. Dedre Simmshttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/SisDedreSimms
<p>Dear Sister:</p>
<p>I think I missed the angle of this being an issue of race. But black leadership, our pastors, civil rights leaders, and even our President, are all accountable to God whether they own up to it or not. God expects our leaders to be righteous, so our nation and its people will be blessed.</p>
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<p>" . . . Now in saying that I really don't want to get hit with a lot of scripture telling me how wrong it is? Here is our choice. we either love or judge - I'm sorry,…</p>
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<p>I think I missed the angle of this being an issue of race. But black leadership, our pastors, civil rights leaders, and even our President, are all accountable to God whether they own up to it or not. God expects our leaders to be righteous, so our nation and its people will be blessed.</p>
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<p>" . . . Now in saying that I really don't want to get hit with a lot of scripture telling me how wrong it is? Here is our choice. we either love or judge - I'm sorry, but I was not aware that saints of God are actually burdened as you say by " being hit in the face with scripture, . .. What ELSE would we use? What are we weighing here then, OUR OWN OPINIONS OR SOCIETIES' OPINION AS BEING EQUAL TO OR REASONABLY ACCURATE WITH THAT OF GOD's? </p>
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<p>I'm sorry,. but I don't want any part of a conversation such as this, dear Sister. </p>
<p>What we want in reality "is a Christian controlled white or black school system." Actually what would be wrong with a Christ-centered foundation for children other than someone else wouldn't agree. What is desirable and ideal is a school system that's not at war with God, calling wrong right,. and right wrong. </p>
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<p>Secularism is a religion just as Christianity, atheism, polytheism, etc; all which seek to occupy its followers by sitting upon the 'high place', (men's minds and hearts). This throne belongs to God as our Creator. Surely, as an educated, and well versed Christian, (I suppose), you have no dispute with that reality?</p>
<p>The warped message of 'love is tolerance and acceptance" of whatever anyone wants to do is damnation to many a blind, 'spiritually dead' soul. Is God "a hater" now just because he declares he will return to judge all? Did he not say he 'wished that none perish', so all should come to the cross while there is yet time?'</p>
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<p>Isn't 'love' wanting people to come to God and avoid damnation? Are sinners (or if you need a more 'politically correct' word, unbelievers), headed for hell any less because we are loathed to be accused of judging them? We should loathe to be accounted as cowards, dear sister, not loathe to bear witness to the Truth. Are they any less fitted for hell just because they don't think they're WRONG, or they don't believe in God or maybe don't believe God would one day be so angry, dogmatic or what's the 'talking point' word, JUDGEMENTAL, as to actually cast them into a lake of fire one day? The last New Testament book forewarns;</p>
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<p class="indent"><sup style="color: #666666;">6</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-21-6/" title="View more translations of Revelation 21:6">And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginnin...</a></p>
<p class="indent"><sup style="color: #666666;">7</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-21-7/" title="View more translations of Revelation 21:7">He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God,...</a></p>
<p class="indent"><sup style="color: #666666;">8</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-21-8/" title="View more translations of Revelation 21:8">But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers...</a></p>
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<p class="indent">As you so aptly admonished us, . . "How many here do not believe scripture? Of course everyone is going to say we do, then ok live it. But isn't that what we are doing here as occupiers until he comes and as sojourners bound for another land? Or are we being cowered into silence for fear of labels such as 'bigots, hypocrites, homophobic, intolerant?' </p>
<p class="indenttwo"><sup style="color: #666666;">14</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-17-14/" title="View more translations of John 17:14">I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because ...</a></p>
<p class="indenttwo"><sup style="color: #666666;">15</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-17-15/" title="View more translations of John 17:15">I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that...</a></p>
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<p class="indenttwo"><sup style="color: #666666;">16</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-17-16/" title="View more translations of John 17:16">They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.</a></p>
<p class="indenttwo"><sup style="color: #666666;">17</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-17-17/" title="View more translations of John 17:17">Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.</a></p>
<p class="indenttwo"><sup style="color: #666666;">18</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-17-18/" title="View more translations of John 17:18">As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them ...</a></p>
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<p class="indent">MARK 8:38.</p>
<p class="indent">Peace to you.</p> Almost afraid to say this as…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-08-21:916966:Comment:43600552012-08-21T23:13:55.595ZDr Sarah Carrolhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/DrSarahCarrol
<p>Almost afraid to say this as I really hate being stoned more than once a week at least?</p>
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<p>But am not sure why this has turned into a gay or black and white thing? If we don't like prejudice then maybe we shouldn't be prejudice?</p>
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<p>What I mean is that for some reason we are thinking that Obama should give blacks more time or presence than other groups, yet we seem to expect it and when we do not get it we are thinking prejudice? Maybe we should be looking at God's…</p>
<p>Almost afraid to say this as I really hate being stoned more than once a week at least?</p>
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<p>But am not sure why this has turned into a gay or black and white thing? If we don't like prejudice then maybe we shouldn't be prejudice?</p>
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<p>What I mean is that for some reason we are thinking that Obama should give blacks more time or presence than other groups, yet we seem to expect it and when we do not get it we are thinking prejudice? Maybe we should be looking at God's will and not color of sin or sexual desires, but love all equally (maybe) and let God figure out to do with individuals instead of us having a black agenda or anit-gay agenda?</p>
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<p>Now in saying that I really don't want to get hit with a lot of scripture telling me how wrong it is? Here is our choice. we either love or judge and if we judge then expect to be judged. Love is looking past sexual anything or color of skin.</p>
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<p>Talking about the gay agenda does nothing more that promote the gay agenda? Go figure?</p>
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<p>Here we are the leaders of the church spending time on the gay agenda? Sounds silly but that is what is happening.</p>
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<p>If we do not like school systems, then stop talking about bad public schools and how to control public schools and start our own schools? A public school is horrible at best. We send our children to school to learn how to succeed in life? We are kidding ourselves but that is much easier than accepting responsibility for it and then doing something different. The public school system is based on equality. I think we tried to prove that in Brown vs The Board of Education. We wanted equality, we sorta got equality, but then we are now saying we do not want equality but our version of equality. Your kidding right?</p>
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<p>With equality what we get is a gay agenda, witchcraft, Islam and host of other things. That is what equality is. Now if we do not like equality then lets stop saying we want equality. Lets face it we want to blame the school system for not teaching our children the right things and the responsibility for our children is first in the home and then in church. That really is the truth. We can either accept the truth and the bullet that goes with it or continue the blame game and with the blame game what comes of that is being a victim and if we still are victims, then where are we? That is not being victorious, but being victims?</p>
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<p>Ok that was a little harsh, but if you think of it, it is true. What people want in reality is a Christian controlled white or black school system. Lets be honest and face it. We want to provide a bubble for people to live in to protect them from life. That is in us and not them. What we should be doing is training people and our children properly and quit thinking schools should do that for us?</p>
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<p>A President is not going to do it for us. The congress will not, neither the senate or governors or police ( think probably everyone would agree with that), the DEA will not, nor the FBI or any other branch of the government. If we do not represent the love and will of God then it is the fault of the leadership of the church.</p>
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<p>Ok that was the hard pill, but if we cannot get to the point of accepting it, then we cannot seek God for how to fix it and that is the solution. The rest of it is a waste of time, effort and money. It is in the hands of the church and a condition of each one of our hearts.</p>
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<p>Ok lets try this again? How many here do not believe scripture? Of course everyone is going to say we do, then ok live it. It says we eat from the fruit of our lips and we all speak from our hearts or the condition of our hearts and the only one that can fix that is the Holy Spirit. So if we really really want to fix things we need to be seeking the Holy Spirit a lot more than we are. Not just us but the ones we have influence over as in our congregations or ministry.</p>
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<p>Think if you will for a moment of how much time Jesus spent in prayer vs how much time we spend in prayer. No........... we know better, we would rather debate. What can we do about things? We can walk in love and unity or in agreement for whatever we agree to and touch in His name will be done. So how many are really standing together? How many are really standing together in love? That is why all of this is happening no other reason.</p> My Dear Brother:
Are there a…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-08-21:916966:Comment:43603262012-08-21T22:22:42.909ZSis. Dedre Simmshttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/SisDedreSimms
<p>My Dear Brother: </p>
<p>Are there any words you have that can help some of our wounded hearts? We black Christians are being forced out of our party if we continue to put God first. Even the NAACP and some black preachers are compromising the word of God, the God of the Ages to be politically correct.</p>
<p>I also believe PO's hand was exposed by the divine providence of God; he said he knows the thoughts of men. PO was exposed because God wanted him exposed. …</p>
<p>My Dear Brother: </p>
<p>Are there any words you have that can help some of our wounded hearts? We black Christians are being forced out of our party if we continue to put God first. Even the NAACP and some black preachers are compromising the word of God, the God of the Ages to be politically correct.</p>
<p>I also believe PO's hand was exposed by the divine providence of God; he said he knows the thoughts of men. PO was exposed because God wanted him exposed. </p>
<p class="indent"><sup style="color: #666666;">4</sup> <a href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-94-4/" title="View more translations of Psalms 94:4"><em>How long</em> shall they utter <em>and</em> speak hard things? <em>and</em> all the workers of iniquity boast themselves?</a></p>
<p class="indent"><sup style="color: #666666;">5</sup> <a href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-94-5/" title="View more translations of Psalms 94:5">They break in pieces thy people, O LORD, and afflict thine heritage.</a></p>
<p class="indent"><sup style="color: #666666;">6</sup> <a href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-94-6/" title="View more translations of Psalms 94:6">They slay the widow and the stranger, and murder the fatherless.</a></p>
<p class="indent"><sup style="color: #666666;">7</sup> <a href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-94-7/" title="View more translations of Psalms 94:7">Yet they say, The LORD shall not see, neither shall the God of Jacob regard <em>it</em>.</a></p>
<p class="indent"><sup style="color: #666666;">8</sup> <a href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-94-8/" title="View more translations of Psalms 94:8">Understand, ye brutish among the people: and <em>ye</em> fools, when will ye be wise?</a></p>
<p class="indent"><sup style="color: #666666;">9</sup> <a href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-94-9/" title="View more translations of Psalms 94:9">He that planted the ear, shall he not hear? he that formed the eye, shall he not see?</a></p>
<p class="indenttwo"><sup style="color: #666666;">10</sup> <a href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-94-10/" title="View more translations of Psalms 94:10">He that chastiseth the heathen, shall not he correct? he that teacheth man knowledge, <em>shall not he know</em>?</a></p>
<p class="indenttwo"><sup style="color: #666666;">11</sup> <a href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-94-11/" title="View more translations of Psalms 94:11">The LORD knoweth the thoughts of man, that they <em>are</em> vanity.</a></p>
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<p class="indenttwo">We all wish he would repent, but how can he without the gays tearing him to pieces? It would be so sneaky and conniving to hide his cards; and how could we ever have imagined him this way after a new next term? I had wondered if this 'gay agenda thing' was as bad as it seemed. I found out its worse than we all know.</p>
<p class="indenttwo"><a href="http://www.narth.com/menus/schools.html" target="_blank">Gay Activism in Schools</a></p>
<p class="indenttwo">What are they doing to us under our noses as Christians? We have better wake up, God will not hold us blameless when the truth is a link away.</p>
<p class="indenttwo"></p> I love him but cant vote for…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-08-21:916966:Comment:43602342012-08-21T21:46:29.783Znewviewhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/newview
<p>I love him but cant vote for him.</p>
<p>I learned this afternoon on the news that Obama was upset with VP Biden because Biden pushed his hand on the gay agenda thing.</p>
<p>He did what he did not want to do and that was to say same sex marriage was ok with him. He wasnt ready to go that far.</p>
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<p>I wish he would have forgotten about trying to win the election and just fell on his sword and did not go along with it.</p>
<p>But I will pray that he repents before the election -…</p>
<p>I love him but cant vote for him.</p>
<p>I learned this afternoon on the news that Obama was upset with VP Biden because Biden pushed his hand on the gay agenda thing.</p>
<p>He did what he did not want to do and that was to say same sex marriage was ok with him. He wasnt ready to go that far.</p>
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<p>I wish he would have forgotten about trying to win the election and just fell on his sword and did not go along with it.</p>
<p>But I will pray that he repents before the election - otherwise I will stay home.</p> Well, Saints:
It looks as if…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-08-20:916966:Comment:43571152012-08-20T22:45:56.120ZSis. Dedre Simmshttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/SisDedreSimms
<p>Well, Saints:</p>
<p>It looks as if the ill tidings of the first 'Ides of March' is repeating itself on another 'divine Caesar Augustus' of sorts, (President Obama), in the headlines today. It seems our modern day ruler of the free world, (PO), or 'Caesar', has fallen into the hands of his most ardent and trusted supporters/confidants, Brutus and Longinus or (aka, the liberal media/secularist agenda). The same 'deep pockets' constituency and radical ''ssm advocates' who drove a wedge…</p>
<p>Well, Saints:</p>
<p>It looks as if the ill tidings of the first 'Ides of March' is repeating itself on another 'divine Caesar Augustus' of sorts, (President Obama), in the headlines today. It seems our modern day ruler of the free world, (PO), or 'Caesar', has fallen into the hands of his most ardent and trusted supporters/confidants, Brutus and Longinus or (aka, the liberal media/secularist agenda). The same 'deep pockets' constituency and radical ''ssm advocates' who drove a wedge between him and a 'teflon spiritual covering', as well as the 'orthodox' believers in the Black Church and the Body of Christ at large. </p>
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<p>So beholden to the gays he refused to extend even the courtesy of meeting with the Coalition of AA Pastors upon his 'coming out for ssm' on May 12th. (Pres Clinton could have told him a thing or two about keeping old, black, uncompromising preachers near you in times of trouble.)</p>
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<p>Caesar, believed to be beloved by all, has been met by 'brutal daggers' thrust into his unsuspecting heart by the ones he catered to the most; ("I am not the president of Black America.") These power brokers have 'turned on' him on his way to the Dem. Convention and general election in Nov. Question is, what favor/benefit/pint of flesh could he have possibly failed to render for these constant whiners and malcontents, these petulant children in the Democratic party to receive such an end? I am reminded of a great teacher who warned:</p>
<p><strong><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-7-6/" title="Matthew 7:6">Matthew 7:6</a></strong> - Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.</p>
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<h1>2 Samuel Chapter 1</h1>
<p class="indenttwo"><sup style="color: #666666;">21</sup> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Samuel-1-21/" title="View more translations of 2 Samuel 1:21"> . . . for there the shield of the mighty is vilely cast away, the shield of Saul, <em>as though he had</em> not <em>been</em> annointed with oil.</a></p>
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<p class="indenttwo">This pic is from a liberal magazine. It appears PO is suitable 'cannon fodder' by the spoiled, self centered, God hating, hedonistic constituency of the Dem. party he 'bleed and (died???) for the last three years.</p>
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<h1>1 Samuel Chapter 15</h1>
<p><sup style="color: #666666;">35</sup> "<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1-Samuel-15-35/" title="View more translations of 1 Samuel 15:35">And Samuel came no more to see Saul until the day of his death: nev...</a></p>
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<p>Saints, I don't know about you all, but I have not cease to mourn for PO and the road away from God he is traveling.</p> Hi sure welcome.
tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-08-20:916966:Comment:43567472012-08-20T18:27:46.861ZDr Sarah Carrolhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/DrSarahCarrol
<p>Hi sure welcome. </p>
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<p>Hi sure welcome. </p>
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