Can anyone here discuss with me Lilith - Black Preaching Network2024-03-28T17:49:09Zhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/can-anyone-here-discuss-with?id=916966%3ATopic%3A1010986&feed=yes&xn_auth=nohey sister, I'm sorry I've be…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-04-28:916966:Comment:13068192010-04-28T01:09:05.649ZTonihttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/Toni66
hey sister, I'm sorry I've been away from the site for a while. I'll send you my email address in your mailbox so we can stay in touch. But I logged on and saw your response and yes there is a lillith concert, appreantly a tour. The image and marketing language tell it all. Surely someone knows lillith, others are just making money and sharing their gifts i imagine.<br />
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"See Lilith on 07/17/10 at First Midwest Bank Amphitheatre in Tinley Park (Chicago), IL. Find Lilith tickets on LiveNation.com:…
hey sister, I'm sorry I've been away from the site for a while. I'll send you my email address in your mailbox so we can stay in touch. But I logged on and saw your response and yes there is a lillith concert, appreantly a tour. The image and marketing language tell it all. Surely someone knows lillith, others are just making money and sharing their gifts i imagine.<br />
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"See Lilith on 07/17/10 at First Midwest Bank Amphitheatre in Tinley Park (Chicago), IL. Find Lilith tickets on LiveNation.com: (on google)<br />
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"The main stage, September 22, 1998, Great Woods, Mansfield, Massachusetts.Lilith Fair is a concert tour and traveling music festival, founded by Canadian musician Sarah McLachlan, Nettwerk Music Group's Dan Fraser and Terry McBride, and New York talent agent Marty Diamond, which took place during the summers of 1997 to 1999. Its website says that it will return in 2010. It consisted solely of female solo artists and female-led bands. In its 3 years, Lilith Fair raised over $10M for women's charities throughout North America".<br />
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and a dedicated website, with dates, merchandise and anything else<br />
<a href="http://www.lilithfaircom/" target="_blank">http://www.lilithfaircom/</a><br />
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keep in mind I live outside Chicago. A fwe years back the mayor commissioned artists to create symbolic cows to line up down the magnificent mile. If that wasnt a throwback to the days when Moses was up with God and the people in the valley were worshipping a golden calf. I was downtown the other day and saw a cow. Some they took down but not all.<br />
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So, they are rfaising money to benefit women but do ends justify the means<br />
. Toni, GET OUT OF HERE??? for…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-03-27:916966:Comment:12716272010-03-27T14:47:35.697ZEvangelist Altha Fugetthttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/EvangelistAlthaFugett
Toni, GET OUT OF HERE??? for real? how you doing beautiful sister of mine. A Lilith Concert?? I wonder do they understand the significance of Lilith?<br />
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We perish because of the lack of knowledge, that is why I think it is very important to have an understanding of our enemies tactics. satan is not divided in his strategy he don't care how or with what he defeats us.<br />
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A lesson the church should learn and take into consideration as well.
Toni, GET OUT OF HERE??? for real? how you doing beautiful sister of mine. A Lilith Concert?? I wonder do they understand the significance of Lilith?<br />
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We perish because of the lack of knowledge, that is why I think it is very important to have an understanding of our enemies tactics. satan is not divided in his strategy he don't care how or with what he defeats us.<br />
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A lesson the church should learn and take into consideration as well. I know this discussion was a…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-03-26:916966:Comment:12704322010-03-26T14:48:35.705ZTonihttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/Toni66
I know this discussion was a few months ago. Hope everyone is well.<br />
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This past week in my towns major daily newspaper was a FULL PAGE AD taken out for a LILITH concert this summer. Sarah Maclaughlin and Mary J Blidge were headliners. There are also maybe 8 or 10 others celebrity singers to perform.<br />
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This is a new one.<br />
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I want to see anointed saints of God who DO NOT SEEK TO MAKE merchandise of men put on praise productions that usher folk into the living and tangible presence of God. Only in…
I know this discussion was a few months ago. Hope everyone is well.<br />
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This past week in my towns major daily newspaper was a FULL PAGE AD taken out for a LILITH concert this summer. Sarah Maclaughlin and Mary J Blidge were headliners. There are also maybe 8 or 10 others celebrity singers to perform.<br />
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This is a new one.<br />
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I want to see anointed saints of God who DO NOT SEEK TO MAKE merchandise of men put on praise productions that usher folk into the living and tangible presence of God. Only in his presence is there transformation. Oh yea, between worship segments, a few more anointed ones can get up and EXHORT and PROPHESY over the people Gods willingness and readiness to support, protect, bless, heal, defend and deliver them and their children. wow... thanks for sharing thi…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-15:916966:Comment:10516052009-10-15T23:54:30.454ZTonihttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/Toni66
wow... thanks for sharing this its very expansive
wow... thanks for sharing this its very expansive You are welcome Bro Smithtag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-14:916966:Comment:10493262009-10-14T18:18:51.589ZEvangelist Altha Fugetthttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/EvangelistAlthaFugett
You are welcome Bro Smith
You are welcome Bro Smith I new nothing about this, tha…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-14:916966:Comment:10491882009-10-14T16:45:06.986ZAnthonyhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/Anthony88
I new nothing about this, thank you sista' Fugett for making me check it out.<br />
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This is what I got online:<br />
Lilith, the first wife of Adam, and other legends. Connected to Akkadian (Sumerian) mythology tenuous from a translation of a verse in Isaiah, which in the King James translation was rendered screech owl (a species of owl). Other translation rendered the text night owl, might monster, night hag, and night creature. A Hebrew tradition exists in which an amulet is inscribed with the names of…
I new nothing about this, thank you sista' Fugett for making me check it out.<br />
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This is what I got online:<br />
Lilith, the first wife of Adam, and other legends. Connected to Akkadian (Sumerian) mythology tenuous from a translation of a verse in Isaiah, which in the King James translation was rendered screech owl (a species of owl). Other translation rendered the text night owl, might monster, night hag, and night creature. A Hebrew tradition exists in which an amulet is inscribed with the names of three angels and placed around the neck of newborn boys in order to protect them from the lilin until their circumcision. This practice lends weight to the argument that Lilith had existed in earlier Hebrew mythology and is not the creation of later medieval authors. There is also a Hebrew tradition to wait a while before a boy's hair is cut so as to attempt to trick Lilith into thinking the child is a girl so that the boy's life may be spared. Lilith's name also appears in a list of demonic creatures in the Dead Sea Scrolls (4Q510 frag. 11.4-6a; frag. 10.1f), in a passage referring to Isaiah 34:14. The word "lilith" appears several times in the Talmud. In Tractate Niddah 24b it refers to a winged human, while in Erubin 100b it refers to something with long hair.<br />
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Akkadian Mythology: Lilith has been identified with ki-sikil-lil-la-ke4, a female demon in the Sumerian prologue to the Gilgamesh epic.<br />
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Kramer translates:<br />
a dragon had built its nest at the foot of the tree<br />
the Zu-bird was raising its young in the crown,<br />
and the demon Lilith had built her house in the middle.<br />
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Then the Zu-bird flew into the mountains with its young,<br />
while Lilith, petrified with fear, tore down her house and fled into the wilderness<br />
Wolkenstein translates the same passage:<br />
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a serpent who could not be charmed made its nest in the roots of the tree,<br />
The Anzu bird set his young in the branches of the tree,<br />
And the dark maid Lilith built her home in the trunk.<br />
The Gilgamesh passage quoted above has in turn been applied by some to the Burney relief (Norman Colville collection), which dates to roughly 1950 BC and is a sculpture of a woman who has bird talons and is flanked by owls. [This connection is one of fantasy rather than logic—jk.]<br />
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The key to this identification lies in the bird talons and the owls. While the relief may depict the demon Kisikil-lilla-ke of the Gilgamesh passage or another goddess, identification with Lilitu is more tenuous and likely influenced by the "screech owl" translation of the KJV. A very similar relief dating to roughly the same period is preserved in the Louvre<br />
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The Britannica writes of Lilith:<br />
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female demon of Jewish folklore; her name and personality are derived from the class of Mesopotamian demons called lilû (feminine: lilitu). In rabbinic literature Lilith is variously depicted as the mother of Adam's demonic offspring following his separation from Eve or as his first wife, who left him because of their incompatibility. Three angels tried in vain to force her return; the evil she threatened, especially against children, was said to be counteracted by the wearing of an amulet bearing the names of the angels. A cult associated with Lilith survived among some Jews as late as the 7th century AD.<br />
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Erubin 18b says that after the expulsion from Eden, Adam was separated from Eve for 130 years, during which time the seed he wasted created "ghouls, demons and lilin". I. e. in Talmudic tradition, not Lilith but Adam engendered the lilin, a connection that may be the origin of the later association of Lilith and Adam.<br />
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In some passages of the Kabbala, as well as in the 13th century Treatise on the Left Emanation [2], Lilith is the mate of Samael.<br />
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In others, probably informed by The Alphabet of Ben Sira, she is Adam's wife (Yalqut Reubeni, Zohar 1:34b, 3:19 [3])<br />
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The passage in Genesis 1:27 — "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them" (before describing a mate being made of Adam's rib and being called Eve in Genesis 2:22) is sometimes believed to be an indication that Adam had a wife before Eve.<br />
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A medieval reference to Lilith as the first wife of Adam is the anonymous The Alphabet of Ben-Sira, written sometime between the 8th and 11th centuries. Lilith is described as refusing to assume a subservient role to Adam during sexual intercourse and so deserting him ("She said, 'I will not lie below,' and he said, 'I will not lie beneath you, but only on top. For you are fit only to be in the bottom position, while I am to be the superior one.'"). Lilith promptly uttered the name of God, took to the air, and left the Garden, settling on the Red Sea coast. As a side note, this places Lilith in a unique position, for she left the Garden of her own accord and before the Fall of Man, and so is untouched by the Tree of Knowledge. However, according to legend, she also knows the "true name of God". The Alphabet of Ben-Sira is the earliest surviving source of the story, and the conception that Lilith was Adam's first wife became only widely known with the 17th century Lexicon Talmudicum of Johannes Buxtorf<br />
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The background and purpose of The Alphabet of Ben-Sira is unclear. It is a collection of stories about heroes of the Bible and Talmud, it may have been a collection of folk-tales, a refutation of Christian, Karaite, or other separatist movements; its content seems so offensive to contemporary Jews that it was even suggested that it could be an anti-Jewish satire [4], although, in any case, the text was accepted by the Jewish mystics of medieval Germany.<br />
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Lilith then went on to mate with Asmodai and various other demons she found beside the Red Sea, creating countless lilin. Adam urged God to bring Lilith back, so three angels were dispatched after her. When the angels, Senoy, Sansenoy, and Semangelof, made threats to kill one hundred of Lilith's demonic children for each day she stayed away, she countered that she would prey eternally upon the descendants of Adam and Eve, who could be saved only by invoking the names of the three angels. She did not return to Adam.<br />
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Thank you again sista' Fugett, I wouldn't have looked it up if you hadn't raised the question.<br />
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Yours truly,<br />
Anthony Smith u too man of Godtag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-14:916966:Comment:10489222009-10-14T13:48:09.034ZTonihttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/Toni66
u too man of God
u too man of God Pastor Rodrick,
I'mma try th…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-14:916966:Comment:10489212009-10-14T13:46:51.037ZTonihttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/Toni66
Pastor Rodrick,<br />
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I'mma try this again (I'd typed out a few sentences and somhow lost it).<br />
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Your question is excellent. God is sovereign. Yet he also gave dominion over this earth to man. God also has bound himself to his word and cannot go back on his word. He has humbled and submitted himself to his word. There are some things in his sovereignty God has established that we cannot touch. There are other things in his sovereign delegation of authority that only we can touch, in earth.<br />
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I made…
Pastor Rodrick,<br />
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I'mma try this again (I'd typed out a few sentences and somhow lost it).<br />
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Your question is excellent. God is sovereign. Yet he also gave dominion over this earth to man. God also has bound himself to his word and cannot go back on his word. He has humbled and submitted himself to his word. There are some things in his sovereignty God has established that we cannot touch. There are other things in his sovereign delegation of authority that only we can touch, in earth.<br />
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I made the statement "God is in control" as a mockery of what I hear said by meaning saints who lack understanding of manifestations of ground level spiritual warfare. The enemy ravages families, neighborhoods, cities, nations. Yet, saints (because we havent taught or equipped them) say they are waiting on God, when God has given them authority and dominion to deal with things victoriously.<br />
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Hope thats clearer Be blessed and keep studying…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-14:916966:Comment:10489102009-10-14T13:37:07.748ZPastor Rodrick Sweet,ThMhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/RodrickSweet
Be blessed and keep studying the Word!
Be blessed and keep studying the Word! no problemo....tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-14:916966:Comment:10489052009-10-14T13:35:33.795ZTonihttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/Toni66
no problemo....
no problemo....