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Women most definately…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-03-15:916966:Comment:19670672011-03-15T13:39:32.361Znewviewhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/newview
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<p>Women most definately do have a calling. But it aint leading men.</p>
<p>There is a place for every member in the Body of Christ.</p>
<p>However, every member of my body was not made to do what only some members of my body can do. For instance, my ear cant see. It was not made to do that. My eye cant hear. It was not made to do that. My kidney was not made for me to walk around on. </p>
<p>So surely nobody is saying that my ear is not as important as my eye or that my…</p>
<p>Sister,</p>
<p>Women most definately do have a calling. But it aint leading men.</p>
<p>There is a place for every member in the Body of Christ.</p>
<p>However, every member of my body was not made to do what only some members of my body can do. For instance, my ear cant see. It was not made to do that. My eye cant hear. It was not made to do that. My kidney was not made for me to walk around on. </p>
<p>So surely nobody is saying that my ear is not as important as my eye or that my eye isn't as important as my ear.</p>
<p>Look at it like this: You have an elbow which is a little joint and it is not the whole arm. But it is SO IMPORTANT to that arm, So suppose the elbow which is needed for the arm to really function well said that it did not what to do what it was made to do anylonger but wanted to become the arm. Well who would do the important work of being the elbow?</p>
<p>Thats what church women are doing now - they are opting out of doing what they are called to do because they think its not important but it is. It is very important. But because they have stopped doing what they've been called to do - the arm nolonger works very well.</p>
<p>That is the state of the church now.</p>
<p>Women dont know how to be women any longer - they want to be men and it has screwed up alot. And the elders in the Body of Christ dont fight it because the women bring in alot of money and they dont want that gravy train to stop.</p>
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<p><em>Now, for instance, if I was a confuse, and unstable female in desperate need of God's word, I would end up leaving your church the same way I entered in, because, all I would hear about in God's house of prayer that He put you in charge of is. as a women, all I am fit far is, to have babies, cook, wash clothes, and clean house;</em></p>
<p><strong>Why do you presume so? Because we teach the whole Word of God? "An unstable female in desperate need of God's word" would find it at my…</strong></p>
<p><em>Now, for instance, if I was a confuse, and unstable female in desperate need of God's word, I would end up leaving your church the same way I entered in, because, all I would hear about in God's house of prayer that He put you in charge of is. as a women, all I am fit far is, to have babies, cook, wash clothes, and clean house;</em></p>
<p><strong>Why do you presume so? Because we teach the whole Word of God? "An unstable female in desperate need of God's word" would find it at my church because we are unafraid of the whole counsel of God.</strong></p>
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<p><em>I would end up dying before my time far listing to you, telling me how weak I am as a women, and how i must be quiet in the house of God, when I know far a fact, I been called, chosen, sanctified, and ordained by my Father God, a prophetess to go out and evangelize, and to compell His people to come to Him, no matter what condition they are, in the mind. I mean, shouldn't I obey God, more than man?</em></p>
<p><strong>When was it that I told you that you were weak? When was it that I told you that you weren't called of God? When did I say you weren't a prophetess, or evangelist, or preacher, or anything else you profess? I think you read a lot into some very pithy posts, but please be at ease. Nothing I have written was meant to discourage you from being all that God called you to be.</strong></p>
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<p><em>If God Has chosen a women of your congregation to preach the gospel, cast out demon's, lay hands on the sick, and they recover, set the captive free, and raising the dead, what does that have to do with you as the leader?</em></p>
<p><strong>I'm not a pastor, but spiritual gifts are distributed through a body of believers as the Holy Ghost decides. Any one person's gifts are a blessing to the church as a whole. I celebrate them.</strong></p>
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<p><em>Is it not written, that the pastor's are not suppose to be Lord over God's people?</em></p>
<p><strong>I think you mean "Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock." 1 Peter 5:3</strong></p>
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<p><em>And is is not written, that as a leader, that you must help the women that labor in the Lord, and not quench the spirit of our Lord?</em></p>
<p><strong>"And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves." 1 Thessalonians 5:12,13.</strong></p>
<p><strong>"Quench not the Spirit." 1 Thessalonians 5:17</strong></p>
<p><strong>Are these the verses you are thinking of?</strong></p>
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<p><em> brother, Let us not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, whereby we are sealed until the day of redemption.</em></p>
<p><strong>When you wrote, "Paul discuss gender specific instructions, not Jesus; And not every time paul was lead our Father," I think you grieved the Spirit of God. Paul is <em>His</em> instrument to enlighten the church. I did not belittle your ministry, but you belittled Paul's.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>God bless you with message.</strong></p>
<p> </p> Praise our Lord Jesus Christ;…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-03-12:916966:Comment:19603862011-03-12T10:46:55.731ZEvangelist, LindaK P. ILonzohttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/EvangelistLindaKPILonzo
<p>Praise our Lord Jesus Christ; Gay men, and women are adopting, and raising our children, if they don't have any of their own.</p>
<p>Remember Revelation 12th chaper; The angels told John to write in the book, and tell us, woe unto the earth, satan is gone after the women, and her seed. When will you get it? look around, go to the mall's, check out all the gay children we have now, compared to just ten years ago.</p>
<p>Praise our Lord Jesus Christ; Gay men, and women are adopting, and raising our children, if they don't have any of their own.</p>
<p>Remember Revelation 12th chaper; The angels told John to write in the book, and tell us, woe unto the earth, satan is gone after the women, and her seed. When will you get it? look around, go to the mall's, check out all the gay children we have now, compared to just ten years ago.</p> Praise our Lord, and Saviour…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-03-12:916966:Comment:19590572011-03-12T10:38:24.580ZEvangelist, LindaK P. ILonzohttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/EvangelistLindaKPILonzo
Praise our Lord, and Saviour Jesus Christ; Ninety percent of our men are in prison, and ninety percent of our women are taking the responsibility of raising children, and working two jobs; Because our men are not strong enough to fight off the trickster, and ending up in prison, or worst.
Praise our Lord, and Saviour Jesus Christ; Ninety percent of our men are in prison, and ninety percent of our women are taking the responsibility of raising children, and working two jobs; Because our men are not strong enough to fight off the trickster, and ending up in prison, or worst. Praise our Lord Jesus Christ;…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-03-12:916966:Comment:19603822011-03-12T10:26:20.891ZEvangelist, LindaK P. ILonzohttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/EvangelistLindaKPILonzo
<p>Praise our Lord Jesus Christ; Let me reiterate; Everything must be done decent, and in order; Now, for instance, if I was a confuse, and unstable female in desperate need of God's word, I would end up leaving your church the same way I entered in, because, all I would hear about in God's house of prayer that He put you in charge of is. as a women, all I am fit far is, to have babies, cook, wash clothes, and clean house; I would end up dying before my time far listing to you, telling me how…</p>
<p>Praise our Lord Jesus Christ; Let me reiterate; Everything must be done decent, and in order; Now, for instance, if I was a confuse, and unstable female in desperate need of God's word, I would end up leaving your church the same way I entered in, because, all I would hear about in God's house of prayer that He put you in charge of is. as a women, all I am fit far is, to have babies, cook, wash clothes, and clean house; I would end up dying before my time far listing to you, telling me how weak I am as a women, and how i must be quiet in the house of God, when I know far a fact, I been called, chosen, sanctified, and ordained by my Father God, a prophetess to go out and evangelize, and to compell His people to come to Him, no matter what condition they are, in the mind. I mean, shouldn't I obey God, more than man? When He has said in His word, if I don't say what He, God, tell me to say, or do, He will confound me; And, He also said in His word, not to care about what man say or do, but care about the one who will kill you, and cast you into hell; Should I die before my time, and go to hell because you man, walking in your flesh, misquote the scriptures, telling me, God don't want me to preach His word, or to be a leader in the church, because I am a female, when He said in His word, He has no perspective person; Judge after the heart the way God tell us to do, and not after the flesh. It is written, we will know them by the fruit they bear. He that walk in flesh, is none of His; {God"s} We women are the glory of God too; He love us too; He, God uses us far what ever He feel like using us far; We are Christ, and Christ is God.</p>
<p> If God Has chosen a women of your congregation to preach the gospel, cast out demon's, lay hands on the sick, and they recover, set the captive free, and raising the dead, what does that have to do with you as the leader? Is it not written, that the pastor's are not suppose to be Lord over God's people? And is is not written, that as a leader, that you must help the women that labor in the Lord, and not quench the spirit of our Lord? Shouldn't God, do what ever He want with His own? Who are you, we, to judge another man's servant? Far Christ is all, above all, and through us all; And if we women seek the kindom of our God, asking Him to use us to preach, or prophesy, or teach His word, going out compelling His lost souls to meet Him in the upper room, it shouldn't be question by you, because we are female, or a young male child, or a ninty-two year old man. Remember God used a women, He had cast out seven devils, to go tell His disciples, He has risen, and to to meet Him in the upper room, and they did not believe them, or the young men Jesus walk with, and reveal Himself to, by giving them bread to eat, after praying over it, after they arrived at the village in Emmaus:Luke,24:13-32. You don't question the wonderful works of God; You just follow Him, and live, and declare His works; If you lack wisdom, faith, strengh, ask Him, and you shall receive.My </p>
<p> brother, Let us not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, whereby we are sealed until the day of redemption. We must work while it is light, because when darkness come, no man, or women can work; It is not about our sou, that is already saved, but it is about God's lost souls who He, God love so much, that He gave His only son, Jesus to die far our sins, that who so ever believe in Him, receiving Him, loving Him with all our heart, soul, and mind, shall not perish, but have everlasting life;Amen; God bless you with message; Evangelist L. ILonzo</p>
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<p> </p> Oh sitting under a woman past…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-03-07:916966:Comment:19500792011-03-07T16:34:03.374Znewviewhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/newview
<p>Oh sitting under a woman pastor is a very insidious deeply spiritual wicked thing.</p>
<p>Dont do it.</p>
<p>Just dont.</p>
<p>Oh sitting under a woman pastor is a very insidious deeply spiritual wicked thing.</p>
<p>Dont do it.</p>
<p>Just dont.</p> Again, you're right, Sister.…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-03-04:916966:Comment:19459762011-03-04T19:48:30.405ZJoseph Gillhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/JosephGill
Again, you're right, Sister. If we can jettison Paul's writing when it becomes inconvenient for our beliefs, what would prevent us stripping out anything else in scripture? It is the fear I would have about being under a woman pastor: I would suspect there are some parts of the bible she'd avoid teaching and preaching.
Again, you're right, Sister. If we can jettison Paul's writing when it becomes inconvenient for our beliefs, what would prevent us stripping out anything else in scripture? It is the fear I would have about being under a woman pastor: I would suspect there are some parts of the bible she'd avoid teaching and preaching. The holy Apostle Paul rub peo…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-03-04:916966:Comment:19451182011-03-04T14:42:40.411Znewviewhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/newview
<p>The holy Apostle Paul rub people the wrong way alot these days, Brother Gill.</p>
<p>If we disregard Pauls writing - then whats the use of the rest of the scriptures.</p>
<p>Lets disregard Peter's writings and then the Revelation of John.</p>
<p>Its dangerous and pure evil.</p>
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<p>The holy Apostle Paul rub people the wrong way alot these days, Brother Gill.</p>
<p>If we disregard Pauls writing - then whats the use of the rest of the scriptures.</p>
<p>Lets disregard Peter's writings and then the Revelation of John.</p>
<p>Its dangerous and pure evil.</p>
<p> </p> Every Scripture is God-breath…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-03-04:916966:Comment:19448992011-03-04T07:09:42.553ZJoseph Gillhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/JosephGill
<p><font color="#800000"><i>Every Scripture is God-breathed (given by His inspiration) and profitable for instruction, for reproof and conviction of sin, for correction of error and discipline in obedience, and for training in righteousness (in holy living, in conformity to God's will in thought, purpose, and action), So that the man of God may be complete and proficient, well fitted and thoroughly equipped for every good work.</i> [2 Tim. 3:16,17, Amplified]</font></p>
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<p><font color="#800000"><i>Every Scripture is God-breathed (given by His inspiration) and profitable for instruction, for reproof and conviction of sin, for correction of error and discipline in obedience, and for training in righteousness (in holy living, in conformity to God's will in thought, purpose, and action), So that the man of God may be complete and proficient, well fitted and thoroughly equipped for every good work.</i> [2 Tim. 3:16,17, Amplified]</font></p>
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<p>You may be comfortable deciding when Paul's writing is authoritative, and when it is not. I believe everything we read in his epistles was written at the leading of the Holy Spirit. I don't have to be picky about what I believe in the bible; I eat the whole roll.</p>
<p><font color="#800000"><br/></font></p> Praise our Lord, and Saviour…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-03-04:916966:Comment:19448842011-03-04T06:33:00.994ZEvangelist, LindaK P. ILonzohttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/EvangelistLindaKPILonzo
<p>Praise our Lord, and Saviour Jesus Christ, our Saviour; Who is above all, through all, and in us all; The scripture discusses many other topics too. Like saving souls, and far pastors not to be Lord over God's</p>
<p>people, but preach His word, and not our word; help the women that labor in the Lord;</p>
<p>Some of us talk about what we want to talk about, and not what God give us to speak on; Woe unto the Pastors that feed themselfs, and not the sheep; Talking about gender is not setting…</p>
<p>Praise our Lord, and Saviour Jesus Christ, our Saviour; Who is above all, through all, and in us all; The scripture discusses many other topics too. Like saving souls, and far pastors not to be Lord over God's</p>
<p>people, but preach His word, and not our word; help the women that labor in the Lord;</p>
<p>Some of us talk about what we want to talk about, and not what God give us to speak on; Woe unto the Pastors that feed themselfs, and not the sheep; Talking about gender is not setting the captive free, it is not healing the sick, it is not casting out demons, or raising the dead, feeding the hungry, or bring a homeless person in your home; Or, praying far those in prison; The church is a hospital; If, and when I have to go to the hospital, they are not going to ask about why I am wearing pants, or why I have my hair braided, or ask me if I want a male or female to wait on me; The most important thing the hospital will be concern about, is my recovery; If a homeless</p>
<p>women walk in the church with pants on, will you ask her to leave; Are we under grace, or under the law?</p>
<p>Paul discuss gender specific instructions, not Jesus; And not every time paul was lead our Father. God bless; evang. ILonzo </p>
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