Does Hip Hop Belong in the House of the Lord? - Black Preaching Network2024-03-29T14:08:13Zhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/does-hip-hop-belong-in-the?commentId=916966%3AComment%3A1291822&feed=yes&xn_auth=noGospel Jazz Saxophonist Camer…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-09-30:916966:Comment:16717682010-09-30T00:03:48.512ZCameron Rosshttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/CameronRoss
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Okay lets see... what Jesus said about this?<br />
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Mark 8:33 "'Get behind me, Satan!' he said, 'You do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.'"<br />
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Matthew 23:33, "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?"<br />
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Oh and by the way... it was Paul that said,<br />
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" Colossians 4:6, "Let your speech [be] alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man."<br />
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not Jesus.<br />
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Apparently, you didn't get the overall message.<br />
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Okay lets see... what Jesus said about this?<br />
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Mark 8:33 "'Get behind me, Satan!' he said, 'You do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.'"<br />
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Matthew 23:33, "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?"<br />
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Oh and by the way... it was Paul that said,<br />
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" Colossians 4:6, "Let your speech [be] alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man."<br />
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not Jesus.<br />
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Apparently, you didn't get the overall message.<br />
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And yes I am anointed and I surely try to walk a holy line.<br />
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This is the reason I LOVE dealing with the "heathen folk" ain't nothing Christ-like about them.<br />
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You be blessed as well "Lester "LesBoogie" Demings Jr" LMAO!!!!<br />
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It's a shame! But the truth always cuts especially when it finds you out!<br />
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But we always tell on ourselves... so be careful next time what you say!!!!<br />
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Prophet Dr. Arroyo Sanders to you sir!!! and Peace be unto you! Love you always with the Love of Jesus Christ!!!! Wow, and you call yourself a…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-04-17:916966:Comment:12949912010-04-17T20:21:15.195ZLester Demings Jrhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/lesterdemingsjr
<b>Wow, and you call yourself a man of God???<br />
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Let's see what Jesus had to say about this rant you just placed here:</b><br />
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<i><b>Matthew 10:16, "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."</b></i><br />
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<b>Then let's look here as well:</b><br />
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<i><b>Colossians 4:6, "Let your speech [be] alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.</b></i><br />
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<b>Apparently you didn't get the overall message…</b>
<b>Wow, and you call yourself a man of God???<br />
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Let's see what Jesus had to say about this rant you just placed here:</b><br />
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<i><b>Matthew 10:16, "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."</b></i><br />
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<b>Then let's look here as well:</b><br />
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<i><b>Colossians 4:6, "Let your speech [be] alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.</b></i><br />
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<b>Apparently you didn't get the overall message of what I was saying (which I doubt you cared to even try and understand) but what can I expect from someone such as yourself the most anointed and holy one.<br />
Another reason why I don't deal with "church folk" ain't nuthin' Christ-like about them.<br />
How people in their "right mind" sit under men like you is mind baffling to me.<br />
You be blessed "Prophet Dr." Sanders lol!!!</b> First off sir, you need to re…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-04-17:916966:Comment:12949502010-04-17T19:16:38.627ZProphet Dr. Arroyo B. Sandershttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ProphetDrArroyoBSanders
First off sir, you need to read again the entire message and not just a glimpse of it. It doesn't say anything about rap, it speaks on Hip Hop and goes as far to study into it, showing the background, the beliefs, and where it originated from. I never saw one thing about accepting anything that has to do with homosexuals or anything else. Before you come at me with anything, I suggest you go study your history and the history of the church and how these things became infused with the…
First off sir, you need to read again the entire message and not just a glimpse of it. It doesn't say anything about rap, it speaks on Hip Hop and goes as far to study into it, showing the background, the beliefs, and where it originated from. I never saw one thing about accepting anything that has to do with homosexuals or anything else. Before you come at me with anything, I suggest you go study your history and the history of the church and how these things became infused with the church.<br />
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Regardless of what you say, I say, or anybody says... in the end it's all about what the Word of God says. No matter how you look at it <b>HIP HOP</b> and God does not go together and never will.<br />
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<b>HIP HOP IS NOT RAP!!!!!!!!!!! POETRY IS RAP, RAP IS POETRY, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIP HOP!!!!</b><br />
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Once again, I say this loud and clear... YOU CAN EXCEPT WHATEVER YOU LIKE TO BUT REGARDLESS OF THE FACT IT DOESN'T BELONG AND NEVER WILL. HOMOSEXUALITY WILL NEVER BELONG, BACKBITING WILL NEVER BELONG, HATRED WILL NEVER BELONG, LYING WILL NEVER BELONG ANYTHING THAT THE BIBLE SAYS DON'T DO, WILL NEVER BELONG IN GOD'S HOUSE.<br />
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So don't give me what you think or what you heard someone else tell you. Go and study and learn then come back at me with scripture to support your allegations. Then go and study what the BIBLE says is condemnation, and judgment, not what <b>MAN</b> says it its. Then when you get through with that... go and study what the BIBLE says Hypocrisy is, not what MAN thinks it is.<br />
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DO NOT COME AT ME WITH OPINIONS SIR, COME WITH THE FACTS... SCRIPTURAL FACTS THAT IS. Then we can talk! Are you saying that a rapper…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-04-17:916966:Comment:12949482010-04-17T19:04:11.891ZLester Demings Jrhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/lesterdemingsjr
<b>Are you saying that a rapper (rapping about the love, birth, death and ressurrection and salvation of Christ) cannot draw someone to Christ?<br />
Just being a rapper and being a part of the hip-hop culture is NOT the same thing.<br />
Jesus did say He will know a tree by its fruit and the fruit that I see doesn't look too good.<br />
I don't see any togetherness in what you are saying.<br />
If you are saying it is not a "sin" then what is the problem?<br />
This sounds like a "G. Craige Lewis" rant- someone who…</b>
<b>Are you saying that a rapper (rapping about the love, birth, death and ressurrection and salvation of Christ) cannot draw someone to Christ?<br />
Just being a rapper and being a part of the hip-hop culture is NOT the same thing.<br />
Jesus did say He will know a tree by its fruit and the fruit that I see doesn't look too good.<br />
I don't see any togetherness in what you are saying.<br />
If you are saying it is not a "sin" then what is the problem?<br />
This sounds like a "G. Craige Lewis" rant- someone who couldn't make it in the rap game so instead they find a way to draw negativity to it all the while getting the "publicity and attention" they've wanted from the beginning.</b> Hip-hop or rap "gospel" music…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-04-17:916966:Comment:12949462010-04-17T18:52:52.551ZLester Demings Jrhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/lesterdemingsjr
<b>Hip-hop or rap "gospel" music has its place but not in the house of God.<br />
I find it very disturbing that people try to shut everything down that they don't agree with however whatever they like they can promote and enjoy.<br />
I grew up in the church and found out more about God and His love OUTSIDE the church than I did sitting in the church from birth- why?<br />
All I ever heard in church was condemnation, judgment and discrimination against my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.<br />
When are we going…</b>
<b>Hip-hop or rap "gospel" music has its place but not in the house of God.<br />
I find it very disturbing that people try to shut everything down that they don't agree with however whatever they like they can promote and enjoy.<br />
I grew up in the church and found out more about God and His love OUTSIDE the church than I did sitting in the church from birth- why?<br />
All I ever heard in church was condemnation, judgment and discrimination against my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.<br />
When are we going to realize that as long as Jesus is the foundation of what we are doing (within reason) what good are you to try and stop it.<br />
Young people are finding Jesus through rap lyrics as well as the Word does it matter who is giving the Word?<br />
The church ALLOWS fornicators, adulterers, homosexuals, lesbians, drinkers, smokers, weedheads, liars, theives and every other kind of mess to preach every Sunday BUT a young man wants to rap about how much Jesus means to Him, his salvation and his love of Christ and we look down on that?<br />
When are we going to stop creating boundaries and closing doors on people because they are not like us?<br />
Some of you sound worse than white people who are claiming salvation who are racist against black people- isn't that a conflict of interest there?<br />
Yes, we understand the hip-hop culture but just because someone raps does that make them apart of the hip-hop "culture?"<br />
I'm sure you drive a car, own a home, rent an apartment and/or have a job.<br />
Are you saying that because you work for a company that supports abortion that YOU support abortion?<br />
Are you saying that because you drive a car whose company supports homosexual rights that YOU support homosexual rights?<br />
If your job allows and supports a sin that you know is a sin did/will your quit your job?<br />
Will you stop driving your car and sell it if the car owner decides that they will support abortion rights?<br />
Will you leave the home you're paying for because the bank that holds your mortgage supports homosexual rights?<br />
Let's be real here people if that were the case we'd be in some big trouble on judgment day.<br />
One thing I realized quite early about church folk- you have very hypocritical views that only seem to bother you when you are not dealing with that particular thing.<br />
Hypocrisy is also sin- be sure you are not partaking in that.<br />
If I want to preach about the love of Jesus and His salvation what makes me any different than the rapper, lyricist or singer who sings about Jesus and His salvation?<br />
Let's not twist scripture to make it fit our personal agendas and biases.</b> http://www.westmountsda.org/s…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-04-14:916966:Comment:12918222010-04-14T18:45:33.967ZPIERSON ROYERhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/PIERSONROYER
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<a href="http://www.westmountsda.org/sermon2009-12-19.mp3" target="_blank">http://www.westmountsda.org/sermon2009-12-19.mp3</a> People really need to study m…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-05:916966:Comment:10300582009-10-05T10:49:17.582ZProphet Dr. Arroyo B. Sandershttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ProphetDrArroyoBSanders
People really need to study more! God created alot of things and lucifer used alot of things as well! Not to mention, that is was lucifer who was over the music when he was in heaven. So is it possible that he would use the same thing when he got kicked out of heaven.<br />
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The greatest magical trick every carried out in the world was when the devil made people believe that he didn't exist! Oh! and that we can use things that were dedicated to satan to give honor and glory to God.<br />
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PS. It's the…
People really need to study more! God created alot of things and lucifer used alot of things as well! Not to mention, that is was lucifer who was over the music when he was in heaven. So is it possible that he would use the same thing when he got kicked out of heaven.<br />
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The greatest magical trick every carried out in the world was when the devil made people believe that he didn't exist! Oh! and that we can use things that were dedicated to satan to give honor and glory to God.<br />
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PS. It's the small things that get you caught up the most, destroy those and you will get rid of the larger ones. It amazes me that someone wou…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-04:916966:Comment:10289202009-10-04T04:08:45.543ZZala Qihttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ZalaQi
It amazes me that someone would take so much time discussing whether Hiphop gospel should be in church when there are many other issues taking place in the house of God, top of the list; kids molested by men and women in leadership position. Anyway since music is the subject of choice I will say, God created music. He is coming for a people without spot or blemish, this will be determined by what's in your heart not by your genre of choice in gospel music. (Hiphop gospel, soca gospel, reggae…
It amazes me that someone would take so much time discussing whether Hiphop gospel should be in church when there are many other issues taking place in the house of God, top of the list; kids molested by men and women in leadership position. Anyway since music is the subject of choice I will say, God created music. He is coming for a people without spot or blemish, this will be determined by what's in your heart not by your genre of choice in gospel music. (Hiphop gospel, soca gospel, reggae gospel, reggaeton gospel, R&B gospel and so much more.) Sister. Please keep it in lay…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-09-25:916966:Comment:10138502009-09-25T16:42:32.089ZRenaco Massenburghttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/RenacoMassenburg
Sister. Please keep it in layman's terms for them. They will not understand. You are too deep. Try remedial .
Sister. Please keep it in layman's terms for them. They will not understand. You are too deep. Try remedial .