I took this from a website, there is many blogs and videos that state that the US is the Babylon in the book of Revelations. I have always looked at Babylon as being the world system, but after seeing some videos on the net, I began to wonder if it is true. So below I have both statements I got from the internet, tell me what you think.

1st Statement:
IS THE UNITED STATES BABYLON ?

What does the Bible say about the Great Babylon? Revelation 18:3 “for all the nations have drunk the maddening wine of her adulteries. The kings of the earth committed adultery with her and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries. Revelations also says the merchants of the earth will weep and morn with Babylon’s destruction because they will have lost their best customer. How do kings and other countries commit adultery with another country? They put greed before God.They put drugs and alcohol before God. Babylon is described in the feminine and as a prostitute. The prostitute sits on waters that represents peoples, multitudes, nations, and languages.

The U.S.A. fit’s the bill on respects. We are the world’s wealthiest nation. The goods of the world are delivered to our shores. We are making the merchants of the world wealthy. We are exporting our culture of greed and corporatism worldwide. Traditional cultures and the environment are destroyed as our figurative lust consumes the earth. We are failing as God’s stewards of the Earth because of our greed. We have people from all over the world living here. We are also the world’s military super power, with military expenditures beyond reason. The rest of the world lives in fear of us. We are the world’s number one arms salesperson, making us the world’s biggest enabler for violence and war. Kings and rulers like the royal family of Saudi Arabia and Musharaff are in bed with us. We torture people. We were glad to supply the weapons to Sadaam Hussein that he used to murder Kurds with, as long as he did our bidding. We worship materialism and wealth, we put the idols of celebrity and fame before God. We put worship of the body, otherwise known as sports, before God, much like the Greeks and Romans before us. Sex is used to sell everything. We support he wealthy and the privileged all over the globe and neglect the poor. Profits before people could be our national motto and global philosophy.

The above statement came from http://www.crossleft.org/node/5765

2nd Statement:
IS BABYLON THE WORLD?

Over the years I have been asked this question many times. My answer has not changed. No, the United States is not Babylon, because this city was drunk with the blood of the saints and Apostles. Many have speculated that this city is ancient Rome. She certainly was drunk with

the blood of the saints! Yet, I know of no time, when the leaders of the Church called for Christians to abandon Rome. Such an event must be future because the Christians did not leave Rome in large numbers.

However, I do believe that cities like New York and London and Paris and Tokuyo, are in Babylon. We must first understand that Babylon represents a lifestyle of acquisition and consumption. It stands in sharp contrast to the New Jerusalem which was seen descending to the top of a mountain.

Now, do not suppose that we will see a literal city descending to earth. She is already here! "The Kingdom of God does not come with outward observation; Neither will they say, ‘Loa there! for behold the Kingdom of God is within you." - Luke 17:20, 21 I am satisfied that

God’s fiery judgement shall fall upon man’s city, with its wayward institutions and corrupt lifestyles, creating a revolution in the affairs of men, such as has never been seen. I believe that Babylon is falling right now and that those who do not forsake her will experience the same

divine visitation as the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah. They will be burned with fire just as the Tares in Jesus’ parable.

This statement came from http://www.theseventhtrumpet.com/twatt/twatt1.php

So What do you think?

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I truly feel that the US will become as an irrelevant third world country by the endtimes.

Everything said about Jerusalem in the gospels, is symbolically described for Mystery Babylon in the book of Revelation.

In Luke 21:24, Jesus remarks that Jerusalem would be trodden down of the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles were fulfilled. Unfortunately, today, many believe the Gentiles are rulers over the people of God. This is impossible as that period ended in A.D. 70 when Rome destroyed Jerusalem. It was the time when all things written were fulfilled, coming to pass before that generation passed away, (Luke 21:22, 32). As old Jerusalem was once called the faithful and holy city, John prophesied that it was measured for destruction, (Revelation 11:2).

Mystery Babylon was guilty of shedding the blood of the apostles and prophets, (Revelation 18:20). However, God avenged the blood of the apostles and prophets. Not only was their blood be avenged, but God avenged all the blood shed on the earth on Mystery Babylon, (v. 24).


Jesus predicted the same for Jerusalem. In Matthew 23:34-37, Jerusalem is charged with the blood guilt of all the righteous blood shed on the earth up to that time. Jesus would send more wise men, scribes and prophets whom he said they would scourge in their synagogues and persecute from city to city until he destroyed Jerusalem. It therefore matches perfectly with this description.
Thanks Evangelist, I think we are well on our way to this third world country status, and maybe sooner than we think. God bless
I agree Sister Fugett.
It seems many great nations have risen and fallen since Revelation was written. America may not even be around for long.

It could mean that this Mystery Babylon is about a bunch of different nations that have shed the blood of the apostles and prophets and did all kinds of wickedness.
Plainly the US is not Babylon. Babylon as we know started in Babel during Nimrod's reign. Nimrod wanted to be a god and be worshipped as one. He created the first "Religious System" on earth. Babylon was in Mesopotamia (Iraq today) land of the Chaldeans. Babylon moved it's religious system to Rome during Constantines reign during the Pergamos church age mentioned in Revelation 2:12. This "Religious System" will be destroyed when Jesus returns. Revelation says what it means and means what it says. Nothing in Revelation is going to happen until the "Fullness of the Gentiles" and that is when the church is complete. We are in the last church age and when the final church, Laodecian is completed then Revelation 4 will commence and everything after that.

Jerusalem was trodden on and the veil ripped when Jesus gave up the ghost on the cross and the temple was torn apart. The kings/rulers in Rome that persecuted the church/christians was during the Smyrna church age in Revelation 2:8. This was a time when Christians were martyred continually for the pleasures of Rome. The seven kings in Revelation 17 are the kings of Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome. These tortured God's choosen Israel/Church like no other. Now we see in Revelation 17:10 five have fallen and one is. Rome still was and the other is not yet come and when he does for a short space/time. In verse 11 the beast that was and is not is the eighth and is of the seven. This means the beast is the Antichrist in Revelation 13 and is of the seven already. This beast mentioned in Revelation 17:8 ascends out of the bottomless pit. This is none other than Abaddon/Apollyon in Revelation 9:11.

As Brother Watson stated all the last days will be where it started and where the worst and most battles have taken place and that is Megiddo in Israel. One third of the world will be destroyed and the centralization for humans will be there and no place else. OF course the church will have been raptured by then anyway. During the 1,000 year peace in Revelation 20:4 it is us the church that will be given the judgment power and we will judge the angels that have fallen and will be preaching to those that have not been preached Jesus along with the Jews that don't recgonize our Christ as the Messiah. He and the 144,000 will preach to them and He will show them His marks in His hands, feet and side and they will have on final chance.

Revelation is future things to take place and none of it will until the Fullness of the Gentiles being the completion of the Church, Jesus' people. God bless.
What about the charge in Matt. to Jerusalem?

Jerusalem is charged with the blood guilt of all the righteous blood shed on the earth up to that time. Jesus would send more wise men, scribes and prophets whom he said they would scourge in their synagogues and persecute from city to city until he destroyed Jerusalem. It therefore matches perfectly with this description.

Do you agree that it is Jerusalem?
Babylon in Revelation was the ancient Roman Empire. It was prophesying its complete downfall.

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