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I say no! All sin seperates us from a loving God. It was out of His love for us that he died on a cross and crucified all sin paying it's debt. Homosexuals are not hated by God and they are not hated by me. The sin they are in is no different than the sin that I struggle with day to day. Be careful about hate, it will eat you from the inside out. Love people, all people the way Christ loves you and me.

Sin is always death. The sin of homosexuals comes with horrible consequences. So does the sin of drunkeness and idolitry and so the list goes on and on. Jesus is the solution and the salvation for all men and for all sin. Thius may not be popular, but standing for Christ and resting in His word has never been the most popular thing to do. Love your neigbor is not a choice. Hate the sin love the sinner is what I have been told.

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Amen James The new testament is full of quotations telling the church to keep the Commandments. I dont know what the problem is concerning Christians who dont want to build there lives around such safe basic teachings..The only part of the bible that God wrote with his own finger is the 10 commandments!!! Jesus said if want eternal life to the rich young ruler keep the Commanments and follow me..Its that simple!!!
God bless you James keep the faith my man..

Any one who wants scripture proof to what ive said here please reply and I will get back ASAP Shalom

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James, I like the way you tear down them "golden calves". God bless you man of God.

Lahry

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1 John 3:3-5

3) And EVERY man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

4) WHOSOEVER committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin IS the transgression of the law.

5) And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and IN HIM IS NO SIN.

I don't believe any sin is greater than another. We are all born into sin. Sin is just that, sin. Just as a lie is a lie no matter how small it MAY seem. We cannot judge the weight of the sin, that is up to the Almighty God. The wages of sin is death and the gift of God is eternal life. God decides..not us.

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A list of six "abominations" are also given in Proverbs 6: 16 - 19:
These six things doth the LORD hate:
yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue,
and hands that shed innocent blood,
An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations,
feet that be swift in running to mischief,
A false witness that speaketh lies,
and he that soweth discord among brethren.

The simple term "wickedness" is equated with "abomination" in Proverbs 8:7. "Lying lips" are added to the list in Proverbs 12: 20 and a "proud heart" in Proverbs 16: 15. It seems then that pride and lies to further one's own agenda are every bit as hateful to a holy God as are sexual sins.

Who then can stand before Him?

Those that justify the wicked or condemn the just, as well as scorners are listed as "abominations" in Proverbs 17: 15 and Proverbs 24:9.

Prayer is added to the list of "abominations," if it comes from one who turns his ear from hearing the law in Proverbs 28:9. That becomes especially significant in view of the consideration that all of God's laws are summed up in the great principle of Love to God and to one's neighbors and that Christ Himself demonstrated that Law in His life. Are my prayers an "abomination"? Are yours?

I am forced to the conclusion that an "abomination" simply refers to something the Lord "hates" -- something totally out of harmony with His character of purity and love. If we take the biblical record as a whole, we find that pride and self-sufficiency are mentioned more often than any other qualities as being distasteful to God. And no wonder. Pride feels no need, and there's nothing even God can do for a self-sufficient sinner. That's why Jesus said that He came to save sinners and not the "righteous." Given that the Bible is clear that there is "none righteous," Christ's statement indicates as clearly as any other that a self-righteous spirit excludes its bearer from the kingdom of heaven.

Finally, not only did Christ clearly teach that a self-righteous spirit is a teflon-coated defense against saving grace, but He actually used the key word abomination in describing such a spirit. Luke gives this account in Luke 16: 15, 16 : "And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him. And he said unto them, "Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God."

"That which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God." Position, wealth, education, popularity, religiosity, the esteem of men -- these are abomination in the sight of God.

In the final analysis, all our own "righteousness" is "abomination" in the sight of God. None can say, "I am better than you. My sin is not as bad as yours," for in so doing, we exclude ourselves from God's grace by our judgmental spirit and thus are lost without hope.

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In answer to the original question, "Is there a sin that is any worse than another?", I do not believe that the Word of God teaches us that.

I do agree, however, wholeheartedly, with the statement, "Hate the sin...Love the sinner", whether it was originally "coined", in the natural sense, by Muhatma Ghandi or someone else. God, in His Eternal Love and Grace, has proven that statement over and over again in His Word. David, a man after God's own heart, committed both murder and adultery. Yet, God loved him, but judged and punished him for the sin. And, what about Sampson? Moses? Paul? Mary Magdalene? And, even Judas? A host of people who did great things for God, yet, in their sinful nature or state, were less than perfect. But God continued to love each of them, in their sinful state, but judged the sin. He never broke fellowship with them, but continued to draw them with His Love, in an effort to change their choices. Each of them (and us), then, are presented with the choice to make the necessary changes.

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To them that God calls, he will love, and maintain fellowship with them, depending on their heart. The bible states in Psalm 5:5, 11:5, that God hates those who practice sin. When one does not belong to God, and they practice sin, it is he/she that God hates. Hosea 9:15 shows us that God came to hate the people of Gilgal. So, its still truth that God hates practionars of sin, but he loves those who are his own.

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define hate, this may be a syntax problem and not doctrinal - hate is a strong word -define God's hate

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If God detests something, that means he hates it. He pursues with Hatred(Hosea 9:15). Humans hatred only stems from sin, and wrong doing. God is just, and he hates. those who break his law. He detest them.

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what keeps him from hating us - we are sinners The Apostle Paul said in romans that if a man said he has no sin he is a liar. Jesus said let him who has know sin cast the first stone. Yes God hates sin. We all should, but God wishes that no man should parish, but that all would come to repentance. Are you saying that you do not sin or that you are not in need of God's forgivness on a daily basis or even an minute by minute basis? This is not an excuse to sin, but a confession of the way things really are in oour world. Only in our eternal home will we sin no more. God's grace is greator than all our sin.

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What keeps him from hating us? That is a great question. The answer is that we belong to him. Sinners are those who practice sin, and so believers of Jesus are not sinners at all, because we do not practice breaking God's laws.

Contextual wise, when Peter said God wishes no man to perish, he was referring to his own people. You have to remember, Jesus came to save the lost of Israel. In my opinion, that includes Gentiles as well, since we are grafted into the Olive Tree. Jesus did not die for all humans, but ONLY those who have been appointed to salvation.

I am not saying that I do not sin, that is not the point. The point is that God not only hates the sin, for it is a stench in his nostrils, but he also hates the sinner(one who practices sin). One of the biggest mistakes that a Believer in Christ does is to call himself a sinner. If you are truly keeping God's commandments, then you are NOT a sinner, because you do not practice sin.

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it still appears that you are claiming to be withour sin or at the very least one who does not break commandments. Do you every tell lie? Do you every lust after another man's wife. do you hate your brother? If so, and unless you are Christ himself and are very honest with yourself, you have to answer yes to all of the above. Jesus teaches us that if we look upon a women with lust with commit adultry, if we say we have no sin the truth is not in us, if we hate our brother we are quilty of murder. So it the commandments serve a higher purpose, to show us that we are as Paul said, in need of a Savior. Read Romans, Glalatians and Hebrews. The scripture teaches us that we cannot add to our salvation nor can we do anything to earn salvation and once we are saved we continue our struggle with sin. But in Christ we have a way out. We have a way to live in victory over sin, we have a Savior. There are two kinds of sinners. A saved sinner who runs from sin and a lost sinner who runs from rightousness. But w are like sheep are led astry and need forgivness like we need air to breath. Remove God's grace abd we are sinners in the hands of an angry God. Peace brother this is a good conversation and I love you in the Lord, but you cannot add the covenant of law keeping to the covenant of GRACE.

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Sure I can add law keeping. Let me show you how. Upon my studies in Romans, Galatans, and Hebrews, I have found out that when Paul said "we are not under law", he means that we are not under its condemnation. Have you ever notice why Paul always ended some of his sentences like," Not under law, but under grace?"

That is because we are not longer under the law's condemnation, but we receive grace when we sin. In OT times, when you break God's law, you die flat out. Now that we are under grace, when we sin, we have a lawyer in heaven that will intercede on our behalf. We can repent of those sins, and move on.

I am not sure how you are thinking that I believe that I am without sin, and do not break commandments. I made that clear to you already that that is false. Only Jesus lived a perfect life. It is our job to walk in the way of the spirit, and live like Jesus lived, and that was obeying Torah.

The keeping of God's law is proof of your love for God. When you keep his commandments, you are showing God that you love him.

1 John 2:3 - And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments.

1 John 5:3 - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.

It is agreed upon that one is not saved by the law, because the law demands perfection, and no human is perfect. Jesus came to do what the law could not do, and that is save. But, that gives no excuse for not keeping God's law. It is a direct command from God.

One cannot add to their salvation initially, but you still must work out your salvation with fear and trembling. You still must keep God's commandments. If not, this is what Ezekiel says:

Ezekiel 18:24 - But when the righteous man turns away from his righteousness, and commits iniquity, according to all the transgressions which the transgressor has wrought, none of his righteousness which he has wrought shall be at all remembered; in his trespass in which he has trespassed, and in his sins in which he has sinned, in them shall he die.

The Greek word for "iniquity" is Anomos, which means no law, or lawlessness. Those who do not keep God's commandments as they should, Jesus will tell them to depart from him.

But, it stands true that we are saved by grace through faith in our Lord, but we must not forgot God's commandments, which was what God always told his people. WE are God's people. Be blessd bro, and live well.

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