No Difference between the church and the government

[YahsNiviim]

Many believe that their is a separation between church and state. There is not the are both cut from the same cloth. The Pope is the master of government and he is also the head of the church. The both serve the same master the Pope.

Many will not find out that they have been deceived till it is too late and that will be when there will be only one religion and one government.

We are almost there and if you are not following Torah you will be deceived and receive the mark of the beast. If this happens then you can not and will not enter into the reign of YHWH.

All religion is nothing more than a mind control mechanism to keep the people blind and in line. Ask no questions and just do what we planned for you to do.

Dumb blind sheep and the way to the slaughter. Many blacks feel that the have accomplished something great in having a black president. Well I hate to let the AIR out of your balloon but he is nothing more than a pupette of the enemy leading us into the devils den.

It is time for us to wake up before it is too late. The problem is that many pastors are leading the people further into this deep pit and it has to do with the fact that many are learn in the tricks of the devil and not the truth.

We are here trying to wake up as many as we can to come out of the whore of babylon and repent and turn back to the truth of torah and follow YHWH. Now is the time because there is no difference between church and governement but the relationship of YHWH is that which will save us.

[Eric Hancock]

Todah
you really hit the bulls eye this time

Dumb blind sheep and the way to the slaughter. Many blacks feel that the have accomplished something great in having a black president. Well I hate to let the AIR out of your balloon but he is nothing more than a pupette of the enemy leading us into the devils den.

I never put my trust in him,,I am glad to see that one of us made it in,,I have written him twice once for a Pardon and once to encourage him and as far as hearing from him..No Avail...I figured he is too busy ..but do really think that he is leading us to disaster?

[newview]

Hi YahsNiviim,

Why wont you hop a plane to Israel...And become a citizen there?

[Eric Hancock]

newview
we need him here

[YahsNiviim]

Dear lost one a prophet a true prophet can only go to where he is sent. I thought that you would know that. But it seems that you do not. Just as we are in a series in the book of Yeremiah and looking at the captivity of Yisrael so we as a people are about to hit a hard wall.

YHWH has had his nough this hard headed stick necked people and if you do not repent from your idol worship YHWH surly will utterly destroy this wicked nation and this wicked people.

For they have turned from YHWH to worship another and YHWH is not pleased with your Ba/al worship.

Now as for where I dwell I dwell wherre the most high tells me to dwell. Thank you very much.

[YahsNiviim]

The church has sold out for 501c3 and has forsaken the truth. YHWH is calling his people out of this whore. It is truly time for us to wake up before it is too late. Come out of her my people and be ye separate.

[Eric Hancock]

I know that what you said is right..I know some that are under the 501c3 and correct me if I am wrong but you cant speak on Goverment issues..BUT,,we need to be aware of what is going on,,Speaking on Goverment issues you wont receive the monthly check that is issues..because SOME CHURCHES RECEIVE CHECKS

[YahsNiviim]

Shalom
This is true. Many churches have sold out for the money and are leading the people straight to hell. They will not call obamanation what he is because they are in bed with him.
This will be by far the worst president that this nation had including bush.

[YahsNiviim]

What is the difference between religion and relationship? Very simple. All religions are man made. They are all a source of control of the maSSes. YHWH has not called us to religion but to relationship. This relationship is based on Ahava Love. Scripture tells us that if you love me you will keep my Torah. Because we do not keep his Torah and because we rejected YHWH and asked for a king we now have a man in whom does not honor YHWH and who has enslaved us.

We refuse to honor YHWH and worship him in Ruach and Emet and for this very reason has turned us over to workings of strong delusions that we would believe a lie. It is time to get back to Emet (Truth). What truth? Who YHWH is and who YHWH has called us to be. We must get back to Torah. For it you do not follow Torah then you will serve the devil ( knowingly or unknowingly). We talk alot about the name and we must understand that the named is key because it separates us from others. Just as YHWH's name his is authority and separates him from other false deities.

The Quran is like almost all other books and religions it has some truth but not all truth. We should always be looking for truth.
For the truth will always be the truth even if a liar tells it.

Now back to what the brother was trying to say. Scripture also tells us this, that those who receive the mark shall not inherit the kingdom of YHWH. The mark is more than justg a number but it is also a way of life. Aka sunday worship as well as in whom you are following. For if we are not following the truth then we are following a lie. YHWH is Tsawdeka (righteousness) and there is no lying in him. For us to reject YHWH is to reject Tsawdeka. It is a mark against us and marres the image that YHWH intended for us to have.

If we keep not torah we are none of YHWH's for this is the sign or mark that we know him.

[Eric Hancock]

what is your view on this topic? they dont practice religion but relationship..as well as the HEBRAICS..they indicate that the Quaran was wriiten one time ONLY..they asked m,e can I say the same about the Bible and I had to say NO...BUT what about the Tora?? they asked

[Eric Hancock]

EVERYTHING what Your saying I agree 100%
Now I speak with SUNI Musilums while volunteering at the shelters,and some was christians ,even Clergy members and they believe and have rthe same ideology about there relationship as you say NOT RELIGION,,they believe that you and them are indeed brothers and it was Sarah that caused the division,,,not Hagar...Abraham should have taken control of his home,,,now I spoke on the Promise with Isaac that past down to the twelve tribes..they told me to go back and study

Most of us are familiar with the ancient story of Abraham and his desire to have a son. In the Biblical account of his story, Abraham first has a son through his 'handmaiden' Hagar. This son is named Ishmael and is Abraham's first born son. When Abraham's second son is born, this son named Isaac, is declared the 'son of promise.' The Jews today claim decent from Abraham through this second son, Isaac. Few people today, however, know what happened to the descendants of Ishmael. It is often assumed that they simply became the Arabs of the Middle East, but to most of us, our knowledge of them stops there. The Bible gives us the following record:

"But as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: behold I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation." Genesis 17:20

"Now these are the generations of Ishmael, Abraham's son, whom Hagar the Egyptian, Sarah's handmaid, bore unto Abraham: And these are the names of the sons of Ishmael, by their names, according to their generations: The firstborn of Ishmael, Nebajoth, and Kedar, and Adbeel, and Mibsam, and Mishma, and Dumah, and Massa, Hadad and Tema, Jetur, Naphish and Kedmah. These are the sons of Ishmael, and these are their names, by their towns and by their encampments; twelve princes according to their nations." Genesis 25:12-16

The Biblical record of Ishmael gives us the names of the 12 sons, but no clue as to how they might be connected to the modern Bedouin Tribes. This list is given to us in Genesis 25 and is later repeated in I Chronicles 1:29-33.

"And these are their generations: the first-born of Ishmael, Nebaioth, then Kedar, and Adbeel, and Mibsam, Mishma, and Dumah, Massa, Hadad, and Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah. These are the sons of Ishmael."

These sons eventually took wives, had children, and through these children, tribes were formed. These tribes made up the nations that dwelt from Havilah to Shur, and from Egypt to Assyria. The descendants of Ishmael, however, were not the sole tribes in the Arabian Desert. Other tribes emerged from other sources. Some of these became the people of South Arabia and others also wandered and settled in Arabia.

In the menu below we will examine the twelve sons of Ishmael, and try and determine what might have happened to them.



Nabajoth
Kedar
Adbeel

Mibsam
Mishma
Dumah

Massa
Hadad
Tema

Jetur
Naphish
Kedemah

Dumah is mentioned in the Biblical records as a city in Canaan (Joshua 15:52) It is also associated with Edom and Seir in Isaiah 21:11

[Eric Hancock]

All we can do is to keep our relationship PURE and hope that we make it into the kingdom,,that is where I am

[YahsNiviim]

Shalom
The Scripture aka the Tanak was written one time. The torah was written one time. Now the bible was written many times. We must understand that the bible is close to the tanak but it is not our book.
The different verison of the bible are like religion they are the works of men and of mans understanding. For scripture tells us not to look to the wisdom of men for it will fail.

Spiritual things have to be spiritually discerned. Islam is nothing more than a johhny come lately to what YHWH has already said.