Prophets - Black Preaching Network2024-03-28T09:52:48Zhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/prophets-1?commentId=916966%3AComment%3A1898106&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI agree but I believe that it…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-02-18:916966:Comment:19057812011-02-18T15:10:36.931ZEvg Tanhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/EvangelistTandraFoster
I agree but I believe that it was a part of my preparation by God to keep my focused on him so like I said before while I respect leaders in their positions I do not join the cheerleading team at church unless we are cheering on Jesus. I give honor where honor is due when it is due. I do not believe that people need to continue on a regular basis stand for the pastor every time he enters the room or every time he is introduced they need not forget the real reason why the under shepherd is there…
I agree but I believe that it was a part of my preparation by God to keep my focused on him so like I said before while I respect leaders in their positions I do not join the cheerleading team at church unless we are cheering on Jesus. I give honor where honor is due when it is due. I do not believe that people need to continue on a regular basis stand for the pastor every time he enters the room or every time he is introduced they need not forget the real reason why the under shepherd is there not for popularity or recognition but to serve as a humble servant not puffed up and prideful. It is people who have elevate and pumped up some of these leaders to where their heads are swole and they treat God's people like they are beneath them and God does have order in the church as in <span class="source">1 Peter 5:1-5 which many have forgotten while in the position of leader not oppressor or dictator of God's people.<br/></span> Believe me, I have had my iss…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-02-18:916966:Comment:19054282011-02-18T10:20:11.380ZLester Demings Jrhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/lesterdemingsjr
<strong>Believe me, I have had my issues with leaders as well but not all are bad; not all are disobedient to God. There are some true leaders out here.</strong>
<strong>Believe me, I have had my issues with leaders as well but not all are bad; not all are disobedient to God. There are some true leaders out here.</strong> You wouldn't imagine some of…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-02-16:916966:Comment:18995542011-02-16T06:57:15.868ZEvg Tanhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/EvangelistTandraFoster
You wouldn't imagine some of the things that I have witnessed in my life time with leaders. As a teen my leader was the reason why I left the church all together.
You wouldn't imagine some of the things that I have witnessed in my life time with leaders. As a teen my leader was the reason why I left the church all together. Founder of the Church of God…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-02-16:916966:Comment:18998082011-02-16T06:55:01.766ZEvg Tanhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/EvangelistTandraFoster
Founder of the Church of God in Christ once said that he had a vision of a bus load of preachers and they were all on their way to hell. God is tired of the pretending. I am not saying that all leaders are the same because they are not I know some really devout leaders who love God and love all of Gods people not just those that they can control who are genuine, but then there are those who miss the mark and need prayer. The Bible says, (paraphrasing) "it is hard to minister to a broken spirit"…
Founder of the Church of God in Christ once said that he had a vision of a bus load of preachers and they were all on their way to hell. God is tired of the pretending. I am not saying that all leaders are the same because they are not I know some really devout leaders who love God and love all of Gods people not just those that they can control who are genuine, but then there are those who miss the mark and need prayer. The Bible says, (paraphrasing) "it is hard to minister to a broken spirit" and it is especially hard to listen if you are that broken spirit. I understand that leaders make mistakes but you do not just wish it away you make it right, like saying I'm sorry or I was wrong instead of wallowing in foolish pride as if you did nothing. Apologize and move on. I am a person who just keeps…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-02-16:916966:Comment:18999872011-02-16T06:49:23.973ZEvg Tanhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/EvangelistTandraFoster
I am a person who just keeps it 100. I have a problem with people putting these leaders up on pedestal as though they are gods, the are fallible just like we are and until we realize that they are not to be idolized but servants then we can get somewhere. Believe me I have been around all kinds and have witnessed weaknesses in them and sin in them just like the rest of the body of Christ. I was taught very well as a child but then I grew up and begin to listen to God more and man less. I have a…
I am a person who just keeps it 100. I have a problem with people putting these leaders up on pedestal as though they are gods, the are fallible just like we are and until we realize that they are not to be idolized but servants then we can get somewhere. Believe me I have been around all kinds and have witnessed weaknesses in them and sin in them just like the rest of the body of Christ. I was taught very well as a child but then I grew up and begin to listen to God more and man less. I have a problem with anyone who preaches one thing and does not live by what they preach. If you preach about love you must first have love in your heart for people. If you preach about forgiveness than you first must have forgiveness in your heart. I really feel like say "oh shut up and sit down until you walk the walk" honestly. Experience taught me that leaders are just human beings just like us and they have faults just like us so when the Word says obedience that means everyone including leaders. Once we are at the stage wher…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-02-16:916966:Comment:18999722011-02-16T06:27:35.056ZEvg Tanhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/EvangelistTandraFoster
<p>Once we are at the stage where we realize that God demands order and obedience in His house then we can get somewhere.</p>
<p>I like this statement but it accounts for everyone under God's direction. I know protocol very well was raised in the COGIC faith all my life but it has nothing to do with that it has everything to do with God. The Bible tells us the "My sheep know my voice" and many times it is people who elevate these people in leadership to the point where they are idolizing them.…</p>
<p>Once we are at the stage where we realize that God demands order and obedience in His house then we can get somewhere.</p>
<p>I like this statement but it accounts for everyone under God's direction. I know protocol very well was raised in the COGIC faith all my life but it has nothing to do with that it has everything to do with God. The Bible tells us the "My sheep know my voice" and many times it is people who elevate these people in leadership to the point where they are idolizing them. I know when to be quiet and pray but I have been around all kinds, puffed up, too passive, controlling, mean, humble, strict, old fashioned, biased, loving, hen pecked, whoremongers, and I am talking about leaders. First of all my Shepherd is God the under shepherd is the pastor and when God speaks through me the under shepherd and everyone else filled with the Holy Ghost will know if it is from God because their spirit will agree. It is all good what you say but in the last day only what you do for Christ will last. Obedience is for everyone and leaders are not exempt. I know how to get a prayer through to God because of the life I live for Him, No one is perfect in this walk not even leaders so I do not put them up on a pedestal like most people, I respect them and pray for them because they face the same temptations as we do or even more. I have seen some antics coming from the pulpit that you may have not seen. God has given my a gift that I use in obedience to Him, first. I cannot speak for you but I rather obey God than man and this was written in the Books of Acts concerning the church so do some History search before you speak too highly of your leader less they fall and you will be so disappointed. We are living in a time where the church has no power, divided by denomination when we get to Heaven there will only be one leader and one church. For Christ I live and for Christ I die. The Bible says, Follow me as I follow Christ so when you experience or witness weakness in your leader you have to continue to pray for them that God intervene. I once knew a pastor who was so controlling that the people could not even sing what songs they wanted to sing without asking him first that is oppressing God People in God's House not the pastor house as you stated before. They are hired servants by God which is an honor I love being called a servant of God.</p>
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<p>Protocol is man-made and taken out of context: God even allowed Paul to be stricken with a thorn in His flesh to remind him who is really in charge and when people begin to realize that pastors are here to encourage, love, teach and respect God's people and not oppress, boss, insult, control then we will be suitable for Jesus church and not a man made church. We are all members of the same body no big I's or little U's in the eyes of God. Applaud Jesus and that will be pleasing to God. There is a thin line today in the church between honoring your leader and idolizing them and there is also a thin line on obedience and controlling, I refuse to be controlled by anyone outside of God. No where in the Bible does it say that the leader is the sole voice of the church or that they are always right so lets put this into perspective. There are many different gifts in the church that work together to edify the congregation the leader cannot do it all nor does the leader have all of the gifts alone.</p> It seems to me Ms. Foster tha…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-02-16:916966:Comment:18999702011-02-16T05:02:02.648ZLester Demings Jrhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/lesterdemingsjr
<p><strong>It seems to me Ms. Foster that you have an issue with leadership?!</strong></p>
<p><strong>What has happened that has caused you to have an issue with leadership?!</strong></p>
<p><strong>It seems to me Ms. Foster that you have an issue with leadership?!</strong></p>
<p><strong>What has happened that has caused you to have an issue with leadership?!</strong></p> That is understandable howeve…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-02-16:916966:Comment:18997292011-02-16T05:00:28.118ZLester Demings Jrhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/lesterdemingsjr
<p>That is understandable however the Bible teaches us how to do things and God is not going to do anything out of order.</p>
<p>Would you go to your boss and tell him what he should do just because of what you feel or "hear" will be better?</p>
<p>No.</p>
<p>So, why do we treat the shepherd's of the house like they are just hired servants?</p>
<p>If I was a pastor I wouldn't allow someone to come into MY house and tell me what THEY want to do just because they believe they are called by…</p>
<p>That is understandable however the Bible teaches us how to do things and God is not going to do anything out of order.</p>
<p>Would you go to your boss and tell him what he should do just because of what you feel or "hear" will be better?</p>
<p>No.</p>
<p>So, why do we treat the shepherd's of the house like they are just hired servants?</p>
<p>If I was a pastor I wouldn't allow someone to come into MY house and tell me what THEY want to do just because they believe they are called by God.</p>
<p>When I was a little boy in the church they TAUGHT people. You are not supposed to lay your hands on ANYBODY nor pray for anybody unless you've asked them first. You don't need to tell them anything- if God has not told you to tell them. If God has told you to tell them- tell them and go about your business.</p>
<p>We have too many people who want a name for themselves.</p>
<p>Once we are at the stage where we realize that God demands order and obedience in His house then we can get somewhere.</p>
<p>Your position does not excuse you from being obedient to the shepherd of the house.</p>
<p>Protocol is NOT man-made there is scripture that tells us that OBEDIENCE is better than sacrifice and if the shepherd of the house says NO then you shut your mouth and be obedient and let God handle him (or her these days)- that's old school teaching not that new mess they teaching today.</p>
<p>How are you going to tell somebody something and you not obedient to your shepherd?</p>
<p>Yes Eli was warned and that was all that happened- he was warned.</p>
<p>If somebody doesn't want to hear you what did Jesus say do?</p>
<p>Shake the dust off your feet and keep going.</p>
<p>That's how you handle that.</p>
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<p> </p> MarQ it is a true saying that…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-02-15:916966:Comment:18981072011-02-15T06:07:44.922ZEvg Tanhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/EvangelistTandraFoster
MarQ it is a true saying that no one really knows what happens behind closed doors. There was a time when women keep silent about being abused and beaten by their so-called saved and Holy Ghost filled husband and told to just pray and this is one of the most ridiculous things I have every heard of. many women lost their lives by staying and praying. God fixed it my allowing them to get out with their life. So while some things are politically correct, some things are common sense when it comes…
MarQ it is a true saying that no one really knows what happens behind closed doors. There was a time when women keep silent about being abused and beaten by their so-called saved and Holy Ghost filled husband and told to just pray and this is one of the most ridiculous things I have every heard of. many women lost their lives by staying and praying. God fixed it my allowing them to get out with their life. So while some things are politically correct, some things are common sense when it comes to marriage and relationships and God. I am quite sure if I left an abusive relationship God would not punish me for it. It is a possibility that the…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-02-15:916966:Comment:18980442011-02-15T05:58:15.036ZEvg Tanhttp://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/EvangelistTandraFoster
It is a possibility that the leader does not want to be showed up but like you said if the leader is anointed by God he will receive what the Spirit of God is saying through you. Sometimes God has to use people to speak into the life of the leader just like the High Priest Eli, he needed to be corrected and God sent His Prophet to do it.
It is a possibility that the leader does not want to be showed up but like you said if the leader is anointed by God he will receive what the Spirit of God is saying through you. Sometimes God has to use people to speak into the life of the leader just like the High Priest Eli, he needed to be corrected and God sent His Prophet to do it.