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Salvation is it eternal regardless of the circumstances or not come on lets get everyone’s opinion

But what is your take on what would have happened if the prodigal son or anyone who had received salvation backslides by rejecting the Father, His Son, the Holy Ghost and totally turned away from the faith and DIED without having repented or had the opportunity to return to the fold. Would that person be heading for hell or heaven? This is a conversation that came up with a couple of my work colleague when we were in an after discussion on Luke 15:11-32 so I would be interested in having a discussion and receiving everyone's point of view.

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I don't believe that stating that the salvation resulting from the death of Christ is a final and not fluctuating state for those who repent and believe the Gospel is in no way giving carte blanche to sin.  Any person who would derive that from the fact that we are reconciled to God and redeemed from sin by the blood of Christ is clearly not a Christian.  

The Christian does not avoid sin because of a fear of punishment but because of the fact that he has been given a new nature and made a new creature.  A Christian desires to live and walk in holiness because he has been changed by the power of the Gospel.  He is also thankful for the eternal salvation purchased by Christ on Calvary and sees it as liberation from sin not a license to sin.

What we need to do is not belittle the salvific work of Christ by saying that some vague and mystical "sin" can undo it but instead preach that those who continue in sin were never converted.  

Without wasting my precious time, what did God the Holy Spirit reveal through Apostle Paul in 1Co.3:15. For those who messed up their salvation, and steeped in sins, or continue to commit worse sins (apostasy) until their death will not receive eternal rewards, yet they w'd be in heaven. ARE YOU SHOCKED, about the grace  of God lavished towards His sons? From human viewpoint it is unfair to give eternal salvation to those who went back in sins. But don't forget, or you may not be aware, that no one was condemned because of his sins. We are all victims of Adam original sin, IT WAS IMPUTED, CREDITED, ASCRIBED, to each person's account. That is what condemned us, we are Adam's offspring.We died in Adam and rose again Christ. Again, no one goes to hell because of his personal sin, only sin sends anyone to hell, the unpardonable sin, (unbelief). Did you hear that God says that salvation is IRREVOCABLE? Before human it doesn't make sense, so, would you enjoy your gracious gift, and grow in grace so that you receive eternal REWARDS? And this also a grace package for you and me. Is God not a gracious God? Oh yes, He is! Finally, legalism and self righteousness has been a problem in Christianity. Salvation is eternal and not temporal, did you hear that again? If a prodigal son ( once a son forever a son) ended without coming back he w'd be as Apostle Paul says, A loser believer. Whether we like it or not some people w'd make a mockery of their salvation, yet they can never loose it. It is God's DNA in them. Even though ignorance has robbed believers of this truth, nevertheless, it stands written. I thank God for His indescribable grace! 

You can believe whatever you choose. But what God says abides forever. Salvation is once in a life time and it can never be lost, no matter what a person does afterward. This is one of the amazing grace of God. Go and read 1Co. 3: 12-15, and you w'd understand the faith of those who threw away their salvation. For when we are faithless God remains faithful, He cannot deny Himself (His DNA in us). Fluctuation or not makes no difference to our gracious God. Yes, fluctuation is part of our sinful nature, but there is another nature in us also: it is called ETERNAL LIFE. May the good Lord grant those who distort our so great gift the humility to appreciate the wonderful grace gift from our Loving heavenly Father. For He is not like man who may demand back a gift. God's gifts are IRREVOCABLE. They do not depend on us, but on who God is. Therefore, no one can maintain his positional salvation, it is an absolute status. For those who continue in sin, don't forget, we do not have all the facts, but God does. Let us run our own personal race, looking unto Jesus, not others.

But it depends if one is truly saved. Then how can you know the one who is truly saved?

It's not our business. Go preach and teach the Word, leave that for God. Only God knows those who are His.Read the parable of the tares and the wheat, and you w'd get knowledge and understanding.

Shalom,

The question, "Is Salvation Eternal?"  Or another way of asking the question, "Does the ALMIGHTY Lie?"

Lets go to the reason why this question emerges.  Death ends it all, nothing!  Therefore, if death is the knowledge within all souls, then the opposite of death is known to be Life.  Therefore, WHO is the author and maker of Life?  Of cost, the ALMIGHTY!  And who cause the ALMIGHTY to start, if you will, the path-way of death?  Of cost, Satan, and without Satan there wouldn't be death.

Now, when the ALMIGHTY Created all of HIS CREATION, HE didn't intended death to interfere, but it did, Lucifer ... Ezekiel 28:14-19.  But notice verse 16, "AND I WILL DESTROY YOU {Lucifer} O COVERING CHERUB, FROM THE MIDST OF THE STONES OF FIRE."  And verse 19, "AND NEVER SHALL YOU BE ANY MORE."

 

So, what am I talking about?  This ...!  This is the third World, the first World of Psalms 148:1-14 shouldn't had been destroyed, therefore, the ALMIGHTY IS THE WORD, which doesn't turn void. 

By way of YAHSHUA, the ALMIGHTY Ordain the BOOK OF LIFE in order to have HIS WORLD, without Satan and his followers ... without death!  

The coming of the Fourth World, "THE WORLD WITHOUT END." Isaiah 45:17; Ephesians3:21.

Shalom,

www.theworldwithoutend.com

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This is SUCH a waste of time. We are trying to find excuses to live just like we did before we were saved! What a sad commentary....just like the flesh wanting to do what it wants to rather than follow the inner witness of the Holy Ghost! We are not fit to minister to anyone because we are entertaining ourselves and also becomimg stumbling blocks to others...preventing them from coming into the kingdom...THIS SHOULD NOIT BE! We should be talking about how many we have led to the lord.....how many we laid hands on and saw divinely healed....how many people we have ministered to physically and financially....how much we love the Lord and want to do great exploites for him...how much time we spend in praising him...worshipping him...loving on him. LIFE IS NOT ABOUT US....IT IS ABOUT OTHERS! IT MOST CERTSAINLY NOT ABOUT OUR OPINION...THAT IS WHY WE ARE NOT EFFECTIVE AS CHRISTIANS!

did you know that the term "backslidign is actually never used when referring to a Christian?

All these you mentioned does not count, only God knows His. Not how many you did this and you did that that's not salvation. Salvation is purely by grace not about what you have done but about God.

Remain blessed.

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