Search the Scriptures, Can You Find One Text...

[Anna]

Search the Scriptures, Can You Find One Text...

1. That says the Sabbath (seventh day) was ever changed from the seventh to the first day of the week?

2. Where the first day of the week (Sunday) is ever called a holy day?

3. Where we are told to keep the first day of the week holy?

4. That says that Jesus ever kept the first day (Sunday)?

5. Where the first day is ever given any sacred name?

6. That tells us to keep the first day in honor of the resurrection of Christ?

7. That affirms that any of the apostles ever kept the first day as the Sabbath?

8. From any apostolic writings that authorizes Sunday observance as the Sabbath of God?

9. Where it says it was for the Church to observe, or to meet on, the first day of the week?

10. Where we are told not to work on the first day of the week?

11. Where any blessings are promised for observing Sunday?

12. Where any punishment is threatened for working on Sunday?

13. That says the seventh day is not now God's Sabbath day?

14. Where the apostles ever taught their converts to keep the first day of the week as a Sabbath?

15. That says the seventh-day Sabbath is ABOLISHED?

16. Where the first day is ever called the Lord's Day?

17. Where the first day was ever appointed to be kept as the Lord's Day?

18. That says that the Father or the Son (Jesus) rested on the first day of the week?

19. That says that the first day of the week was ever sanctified and hallowed as a day of rest?

20. That says that Jesus, Paul or any other of the apostles taught anyone to observe the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

21. That calls the seventh day the "Jewish Sabbath" or one text that calls Sunday the "Christian Sabbath"?

22. Authorizing anyone to set aside God's Sabbath and observe any other day?

[Anna]

Watson, Messiah is the GOAL of the Torah which is to be written in the heart of the believer. Too bad the Torah isn't in your heart:


Romans 10:4

" For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."

Here, end does not mean "conclusion" as in "done away." If the law was done away, sin could not exist because Paul states, "By the law is the knowledge of sin" (Romans 3:20). Rather, end should be "goal" or "purpose," meaning that this verse names Christ as the object of the Bible (see Romans 6:22; I Timothy 1:5; James 5:11; I Peter 1:9). The law—indeed, the whole Bible—is aimed toward Him; He is its target. Paul is saying Jesus is what the law produces; He personifies its intent.

The Tyndale bible version interprets it correctly:

Rom. 10:4
For Christ is the end *(goal)* of the law to justify all that believe.|law, unto righteousness for everyone that believeth|

http://faithofgod.net/TyNT/rm.htm#10:1

[James Pierce]

Anthony,

One does not even need to go all this far to see that Telos has more than one meaning other than "end." As I stated before, If Yahushua was end of the Torah, then He would not have taught Torah. If He was the end of Torah, then He would not have told His disciples to teach "all that I have commanded you." Paul would not have said that he upheld Torah(Romans 3:31). He would not have said that he only agrees with what is in line with Torah and the Prophets(Acts 24:14). Your lawless heart will not allow you to see this.

[Anna]

Poor Watson!

What a shame! You mean you searched all of those references and still couldn't see what was plain as the nose on your face??? lol

Ok.
Let me 'splain it to you, and give you a provate lesson I'll entitle it"

"How To Help Watson Use A Lexocon 101!!!

Go back to one of your references.

In Rom. 10:4, the word approproately translated as "goal" in Tyndale, translated as "end" (which is actually from the "Old English") is the Greek word "telos" #G5056

But note if you can, the

"Root Word Etymology"

**********"from a primary tello (to set out for a definite point or goal)"*******


Here are a couple of other verses where "telos" is used, where it should have been translated as "goal" as is the case in the NIV translation.

KJV
1Pet.1
[9] Receiving the *end* (telos) of your faith, even the salvation of your souls

NIV
1 Peter 1:9
for you are receiving the *goal* (telos) of your faith, the salvation of your souls.

KJV
1 Timothy 1:5
Now the *end* (telos) of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:

"Goal" is properly used in the NIV;
1 Timothy 1:5
The *goal* (telos) of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So Watson, I hope you have learned from your lesson on how to use a lexicon.
Now you should be better equipped next time to properly use one next time a scholarly reference is needed.

This time it has proven you WRONG, since "goal" is one of the meanings of "telos" which you were unable to find, alothough it was right under your nose.

Messiah IS the GOAL OF THE LAW as is rendered properly in Rom 10:4, Tyndale!

[Chaplain Pat Harris]

Bro.Watson,

Some people just don't read all of the information provided, just like some don't hear every word spoken.

If they did, you wouldn't have to repeat yourself, over and over and over, again.

[Chaplain Pat Harris]

Bro. Watson,

I do admire your patience with these Torah people. I also understand why you are drawn to this site. Because of the gift and ministry to teach, it troubles your spirit to see the spreading of false doctrine and misunderstanding of the Word. I know this to be so, because you never stop teaching! It is also apparent that you have a passion for what you do. And for that, I am truly grateful.

I guess in a similar manner, I can't stand to see false doctrine being taught throughout this site, although I am nowhere close to being the scholar that you are, I know that God can and will use me as He sees fit to do so. And for that too, I am grateful.

[Anna]

Sabbath Facts in The Book of Acts

“Saved by Grace” Gentiles kept the Sabbath in Antioch


The “facts” from “Acts” are shocking. In Antioch, Paul “went into the synagogue on the sabbath day.” Acts 13:14. Jews and Gentiles were there. Verses 16, 26. After preaching about Jesus, “the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.” Verse 42. Thus these Gentiles were Sabbath-keepers who received Christ. They wanted to hear more about Jesus the next Sabbath. Paul did not tell them that Sunday was now the Lord's Day. But, “speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.” Verse 43. These Sabbath-keeping Gentiles were now “in the grace of God.” Paul told them to “continue” in this grace. They did all week. Then “the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.” Verse 44. Paul preached only the word of God, not the traditions of men. The Sabbath was still there, and the Gentiles in Antioch were keeping it.

The Sabbath and the Jerusalem Council - Acts 15
The council came together to discuss “this question ... this matter” of “circumcision” and “the law of Moses.” Acts 15:1-2, 5. The Sabbath was not an issue. The Church decided that the Gentiles were “saved ... through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ” (verse 11) and did not need not to be circumcised or to keep the law of Moses. Yet to avoid offending the Jews, they were given certain restrictions. Verses 19-20. At this early, date in church history, the believing Gentiles were still worshiping with the Jews in the synagogues “*every sabbath day*.” Verse 21.


A Sabbath-Keeping Church begins in Philippi
Luke and Paul delivered “the decrees” of the council and entered Greece to “preach the gospel.” Acts 16:4, 9-10. In Philippi, “on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side.” Acts 16:13. There was no synagogue there, but it was still the Sabbath! A Gentile named Lydia,” whose heart the Lord opened ... was baptized, and her household” (16:14-15). This was the beginning of the New Testament Sabbath-keeping Church of Jesus Christ in Philippi. Paul's letter to the Philippians was written to this church.

A Sabbath-Keeping Church begins in Thessalonica
Paul went into a Jewish synagogue in Thessalonica “As his custom was, Paul went into the synagogue and on three sabbath days reasoned with them from the scriptures, opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead.” Acts 17:1-3. Paul preached about the resurrection of Jesus. He did it on the Sabbath. He did not mention Sunday. Many “devout Greeks” believed. Verse 4. This was the beginning of the New Testament Sabbath-keeping Church of Jesus in Thessalonica. Paul's letters to the Thessalonians were to this church. All practicing Jews still keep the seventh day Sabbath today and always have and undoubtedly did then, so there is no mistake as to what day Paul kept the Sabbath on as was “his custom” since this was a Jewish synagogue! As for his custom, Paul was a Jew and a Pharisee since childhood. Acts 26:4-5.

A Sabbath-Keeping Church begins in Corinth

Paul “came to Corinth ... he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.” Acts 18:1, 4. “He continued a year and six months, teaching the word of God among them.” Verse 11. Paul did not preach the traditions of men, but only “the word of God.” “Many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized,” including “Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue” (vs. 8). Crispus was a Sabbath-keeper who probably became one of the leaders (see 1 Corinthians 1:14) of the early New Testament Sabbath-keeping Church of Jesus Christ in Corinth. Paul's letters, First and Second Corinthians, were written to this church.

A Sabbath-Keeping Church begins in Ephesus
Paul “came to Ephesus” and found “certain disciples.” Acts 19:1. As usual, “he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God.” Verse 8. This was obviously on the Sabbath days, as in Antioch, Corinth and Thessalonica. Many rejected his preaching, so Paul finally “separated the disciples.” Verse 9. He continued there “by the space of two years; so that all they which dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus, both Jews and Greeks.” Verse 10. Those who received the Lord became the nucleus of the New Testament Sabbath-keeping Church of Jesus Christ in Ephesus. Paul's letter to the Ephesians was written to this church.

Paul was NEVER Accused of Sabbath-breaking
Paul was finally arrested in the Temple in Jerusalem. Acts 21. At his trial before the Sanhedrin, even the Pharisees said, “we find no evil in this man.” Acts 23:9. Before Felix, Paul declared, “so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets.” Acts 24:14. Before Festus, “to the Jews have I done no wrong.” Acts 25:10. Before Agrippa, “I continue unto this day ... saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come.” Acts 26:22. The prophets and Moses did not say that “Sunday-keeping should come.” Finally, Paul spoke to the Jews in Rome, “persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.” Acts 28:23. During all his trials, the Jews never once accused Paul of breaking the fourth Commandment, the Sabbath! Why? Because he never did!</</b>i>