The Argument Over A Name

Our Saviour Hebrew name is Yeshua but I am not Hebrew so I am happy to call Him by His English name Jesus, which is the name I called upon and He save me and the Holy spirit have not convicted me when I call the Saviour Jesus, in none of my dreams or visions I have of Him has He ever condemn me or refuse to answer to the name of Jesus.

God is and was the one who confound all our language so I don't believe he is going to beat us up over the name plus Yeshua is the name of the Son yet when Jesus was in ministry here on earth he did not say he came in his own name he said he come in His fathers name John 5:43 and the father is not Yeshua, the father is I AM - Yahweh (YHWH). 

When Moses ask what name should I tell the people that sent Him he was told tell them I AM (YHWH) sent him not Yeshua.

When the angel appear only Mary and Joseph was giving the name Yeshua. During Christ Ministry he constantly refered to himself as I AM (YHWH) the fathers name even when he was ascending he did not say Yeshua will be with you always he said I AM (YHWH) will be with you always Matthew 28:20. 

People if calling the Saviour Yeshua was such a big deal Christ would have been using that name instead check it He use His Fathers name, I AM (YHWH) the way, I am (YHWH) the bread of life etc

I think satan has come amongst us trying to tie us up in confusion so we will take our eyes off our Saviour. 

Let us stop this nonsense and come into realisation of what is important and that is that we know who the Saviour is, that before the beginning he was with God and through him and by him and for him the world was made and that he who was in the beginning with God came born of women conceived from the seed of the Holy Spirit to be among us being fully man and fully God, He died for our sins, and was risen on the third day to give all who believe in him everlasting life.

People there has only ever been one such as him so God will recognise who we refer to whether we call him by Jesus or Yeshua.

As long as we don't allow ourselves to be fooled into thinking he is the blue-eyed blond picture because none of us know what He physically look like and it is by his voice we will know him not by his name or his looks. 

The word says my sheep know my voice not my sheep know my looks or my name none of us have a description of of his physical look or if he will come having a colour and if we believe we do that is where we will get deceived because when the evil one comes the word says even the elect will be deceived. 

So people let us ignore the tactics of satan and look to our Saviour, concentrating on hearing him through his word and forget what he looks like and get away from the useless argument over the name because it is not by his name or by his look we will know him it is by His VOICE.

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Don't be ridiculous! ENGLISH IS THE YOUNGEST LANGUAGE IN THE WORLD! The name jesus was INVENTED in 368 AD, LONG BEFORE ENGLISH WAS EVER INVENTED OR USED!

Wow! THE DEVIL IS REALLY HAVING HIS WAY WITH YOU TODAY isn't he. I mean you have gone to all 15 of my postings to leave this insanity?

TISK! TISK! TISK!

Of all the Christinas I know I KNOW YOU KNOW HOW TO STUDY! BUT YOU ARE OPERATING ON SHEAR EMOTION NOW!

As you once said to my bride on YEN, "YOU NEED TO KNOW YOUR STUFF BEFORE YOU POST!

Jaja you know I know my stuff but because you have allowed your brain to be possessed you have lost sight of the truth, but let me tell you something, the blood of Jesus can set you free.  Whatever strong hold you have allowed to get control of you the blood have Jesus can loose. 

Oh yes Jaja I know, I know you are going to come up with the fact that Jesus name was invented in 368 AD and the English was not invented yet. But guess what Jaja I have news for you English invented around 450 AD, when the Roman troops withdrew from Britain, the Angles (hence the terms English and england), Frisians, Saxons, and Jutes began to travel from Germany and Northern Europe to Britain. The Saxons were the most dominant group. The Anglo-Saxon languages developed into English. They were functionally illiterate so little is known about the time but in 597 Christian missionaries came and introduced literacy and Christianity to Britain. In 1066, the Normans, Viking who had settled in France 200 years before, took over England. They contributed 10,000 words to the English language. English was considered a peasant language and anyone of a high status spoke French. As the Normans became more isolated from Europe, they began to consider themselves English rather than French. At this time, There were many different dialects of English and often people living in neighbouring towns could not understand each other. English was very casual and there were few rules. They became more regularized through time and word forms were generally reduced.
No one can say at which point English became a separate language from the different Germanic dialects but it would have changed quickly as people of different tribes tried to communicate with each other. The waves of new languages that spread over the British Isles greatly broadened the English vocabulary. This is why we have so many homonyms and synonyms, compared to other languages.
Time period of 368AD is only a estimate
Both you and I know that in theology none of the dates ar precise all the dates are and should be stated as around so when you come up with 368AD precisely you do so to deceived. Come now Jaja you know that in theology it is not unusally fordates to be estimated 70 years apart even longer because there is no precise way of knowing the exact dates un;less a major event took place at the same time and that incident recorded in the Bible. Without such recorded date or event in Scripture then no date can be assume to be precise or exact because you have nothing to work off. English as we speak it now is not the same as when it first came out even English of the 17th century is not the same as today but they were still English however way you want to look at it.

So I say to you once more come out from amongst them because there can be only one winner. Our saviour is that one winner so you get no price for continuing in your attempt to degrade is name because the blood of Jesus is stronger than you the blood of Jesus can also loose ypou and free you from whatever has gotten hold of your mind.

Bringing over my response to this on Face Book :

Even though we use "Jesus" in English it in its self is not English it comes from the Greek. ALL TRANSLATIONS of date (pre English) use Yeshua includng Aramaic. OK Netanya?

Incase you are wondering Netanya is Doreen in Hebrew

And Jaja actually what is spoken today as modern Hebrew came to play in the 1800s some time so that is the youngest of languages.. 

In defense of Natanya you accusing a student of being demonic? What is this about a kettle and a pot? 

Tsk Tsk you an Av Beit now? who laid hands upon you ? Self proclaimed teacher you state your self . When you go after a student you gain the attention of her teachers... 

Hi Daniel, thank you my gallant knight but it is okay if it please Jaja to sling insult at me is fine, with my Saviour with me it will just rub off, it is far more important to get Jaja to see sense and to get him back under thecoveing of the blood, in the protection of Jesus because somehow he has got himself entangle with something or someone who has gain access to his mind and he clearly cannot see it.

You touch my heart my sister and friend. continue your study reread the rest of that response not found here but on Facebook may your eyes be opened

I will defend you here as some may attempt to steal you from my master and you do follow him yet a little bit deeper into the water wade. Leave Jaja be YHWH willeitherbring Him back or drive him further. 

All I ask of you is that you stay focused , dig scriptures to reply (he can argue you can not deny the word)

Be in Shalom ... at all times your big brother Watches over you

Jaja God don't mind us calling His Son Jesus only you mind Jaja and you are not God. You are not God jaja and you cant go around forcing me to do things because God believes in people having the choice he does not want anyone by force because when people do things by force there is no cooperation. Get it satan do things by force not God. God wants his body to work in perfect unity, to be pure spotless and clean, everyone cooperating and working as His body, noone being force to do because slaves are force, slaves are whipped into doing things. 

Stop trying to think you are the only one who has truth because God is the truth not you, you are not God, Jaja you are pushing a lot of people away, you are trying to kill people that is not of God God is a God of love. 

Stop trying to force people into things , stop trying to kill people, because that is what satan does and if you have ever met the Son of God believe me you would not want to destroy people, you would not want to treat them the way you are doing.

 

WOW THANK YOU FOR POSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Holy Spirit gave me a word on this, and surely the Lord must be saddened over this because HIS people are arguing and debating over this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  It grieves my spirit so!!!!!!!!!! This post came in my email, and INSTANTLY caught me eye!!!!!!!! Sis all this debate over His name is taking HIS people's eyes OFF OF HIM, and the enemy sits back and laughs!!!!!!!!!!  I am sticking to the name JESUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And she shall bring forth a son, and you shall call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.Matthew 1:21

Dear sister;

If you insist on calling Him Jesus that is your choice. Have you been to a college or seminary?  Did you sleep in history class?? None the less I shall not judge you, Yeshua will Himself.as He will me.

The name Jesus did not appear in translations until later years. Perpetuated  and introduced by Catholics that would have no mention of any thing Jewish.We were called Christ killers and Judaizers as some do even today.

I belong to a school that is older than Catholics we are Netzari formed by Pharisee and  Essene Jews like Nicodemus who believed and followed Him.

We hold the Aramaic text as the most accurate and indeed all texts found in the dead sea written before 600 CE are all written in Aramaic.Since you do not have access to the textallow me to read here the words as originaly written 

"And she will bear a son and she will call His name Yeshua for He will save his people from their sins.." Mattisyahu (Mathew in Hebrew) 1::21.

Translated to the letter the very name Y;shua means He has saved as Y'hoshua means He shall save (Yea the same one that fit Jericho)

Keep following Rome , it matters not to me...

IF YOU CAN SAY YAHUSHUA THEN YOU HAVE NO LANGUAGE BARRIER. SO WHY DO YOU CALL THE MESSIAH JESUS!

The Ruach or the Set Apart Spirit (aka) Holy Spirit is about to prove to you that if you call the Messiah Jesus you are either WILLFULLY DISOBEDIENT, WILLFULLY IGNORANT OR IN SPIRITUAL DARKNESS, UNDER THE CONTROL OF SATAN AND DOOM TO PERISH! Don’t trip, even if it applies to you!

CAN YOU SAY YAHUSHUA? Of Course you can! You know why you can say YAHUSHUA? Because THERE IS NO LANGUAGE BARRIER. In fact THERE IS NO SOUND BARRIER EITHER! There is CURRENTLY no language in the world WITHOUT A “Y” SOUND!

What’s more, THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A LANGUAGE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD WITHOUT A “Y” SOUND!

As we say in the ghetto just before we commence to beating your behind, “NOW WHAT”?!?

Oh we’re not through with you yet!!!!

THERE ARE SEVERAL LANGUAGES THAT DO NOT HAVE A “J” SOUND to include Latin, Hebrew, Greek, Russian, Spanish and Japanese JUST TO NAME A FEW!

You ever seen someone talking to the person they are beating up?!? YOU VIPERS, YOU LIARS, YOU SINNERS, YOU ACCURSE PEOPLE PREACHING ANOTHER GOSPEL! I GOT SOME MORE FOR YOU! And yes I know “I GOT” is not proper, BUT YOU’RE TAKING A SPIRITUAL ASS WHIPPING RIGHT NOW!!!!

NAMES AND MOST PROPER NOUNS DON’T NEED TO BE TRANSLATED…..EVER!!!!! Even with a SOUND BARRIER a name can be pronounce or ATTEMPTED TO BE PRONOUNCED! The only reason a NAME could not be pronounce by someone who speaks A DIFFERENT language is IF THEY DECIDED NOT TO OR REFUSE TO DO SO!

ONE MORE THING, YOU WHO WORK INIQUITY!

JESUS IS NOT A TRANSLATION! IT IS A TRANSLITERATION! OF A GREEK WORD (IESOUS) FOR THE “MEANING” OF THE “NAME” YAHUSHUA!

SO YOU ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE! JESUS IS A FALSE PAGAN GOD INVENTED BY THE FOUNDERS OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE CREATORS OF THE FIRST CANONIZED BIBLE. A bible with 73 books I might add, which is rather challenging to say the least BECAUSE THERE ARE ONLY 66 COMPLETE SCROLLS, ESPETILES AND GOSPELS. All the rest have significant parts of them missing!

I do understand, you, like the rest of the world, as was I, were tricked and beguile by the devil into believing that jesus is real and the son of Yahweh. But if you still believe after this, YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO DISOBEY AND WILL HEAR, “I NEVER KNEW YOU! YOU WORKERS OF INIQUITY”!

CAN YOU SAY YAHUSHUA?

SHALOM
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