Is The Trinity Biblical?
From the Christian Research Institute
www.equip.org
The Trinity is a basic doctrine of orthodox Christianity. Yet the word "Trinity" is not found anywhere in the Bible. Is the doctrine of the Trinity really biblical?
The doctrine of the Trinity says that there is one All Mighty One (God) who exists eternally as three distinct persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I can assure you that the elements of this doctrine are all taken directly from the Bible.
The first plank of the Trinitarian platform is that there is only one All Mighty One (God). The Bible could not be more explicit on this point, which it states explicitly about two dozen times. In Isaiah 44:8 Yahweh (The LORD) says that even He does not know of any other (mighty ones)gods!
Yahshua (Jesus) often spoke of the All Mighty One (God) as His Father, and the apostles frequently spoke of "the Almighty One (God) the Father." But the New Testament also insists that Yahshua (Jesus) is The Almighty One (God). For example, Thomas acknowledged Yahshua (Jesus) as, "My Lord(master) and my Almighty One (God)" (John 20:28), and both Peter and Paul spoke of Yahshua (Jesus) as "our All Mighty One (God) and Savior" (2 Pet. 1:1; Tit. 2:13). Yet the New Testament also makes the distinction between the Father and the Son as two very different persons. In fact they tell us that they love one another, speak to each other, and seek to glorify each other (e.g., John 17: 1-26).
The Old Testament refers often to the Holy Spirit as The Almighty One (God) at work in the world, without distinction from the Father. But Yahshua (Jesus) in John 14 to 16 explained that this Holy Spirit would be sent by the Father at the Messiah’s (Christ's) request. The Holy Spirit would teach and guide the disciples, not speaking on His own initiative, but speaking on the Messiah’s 9Christ's) behalf and glorifying The messiah (Christ). Thus, the Holy Spirit is revealed by The Messiah (Christ) to be a third person distinct from the Father and distinct from the Son.
In short, the doctrine of the Trinity is completely and totally biblical, and it is essential that all the Followers of the Messiah Yahshua (Christians) give assent to this doctrine.

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Min.Tracy I will highlight my answers. God Bless

John chapter 14

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Jesus will pray that the Father will send "ANOTHER" Comforter who will live with us (and later we see "in" us) forever. Why the word "another" -- explain this: To understand what he is saying you must not stop at that verse and say See! Please READ the next two verses down to fully understand what Jesus was Saying.

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

Jesus is in the Father, we are in Jesus, Jesus is in us and the Holy Spirit dwells in us. -- explain this.

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

why "our" abode? Jesus had two natures One Divine and One Human. read 1Timothy 2:5,Heb.2:17,2Cor.5:19

24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

The Father sent Jesus and now the Holy Spirit (in Jesus' name). Why did Jesus have to leave in order for the Holy Spirit to come?

27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Jesus goes to the Father and the Father is GREATER than He, and yet He and the Father are ONE -- explain this to me

29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.

30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.
Genesis 1:26-27
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Man(kind) is one yet we see two. There is only ONE mankind… male and female.

Someone explain the "us" and "our" in Genesis.

Why is it we can cognitively accept mankind as one and not accept God as one?

My belief is not polytheistic…it is strongly monotheistic.

I don’t believe there are many “mankinds”. I believe there is only ONE mankind – male and female and that "they" have dominion and are still..ONE mankind.

I don’t believe that there are many gods. I belive that there is only ONE God – Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. and that mankind is made in the very image of God... after God's own likeness.

finite minds + infinite wisdom will never add up.
Minister,

When Genesis was written, there was no Christianity, and so we cannot say that a trinity was in mind here. To go even deeper, Hebrews did not, and does not believe in a trinity. The father speaks from plurastic majesty.
Hiya James.

Actually, one would rarely hear me use the word "trinity". I may say it every now and then, depending on who I'm speaking with. That word confuses people and makes many think that one is polytheistic instead of monotheistic in their beliefs.


I also don't think I insinuated that "Christianity" was around in Genesis.

So, if you could my dear brother... respond to what I posted not what was not written.
Minister,

I apologize for not being clear. Christianity in context here refers to their trinity.
Hmmm.. I see what you are saying.

But my request was:

Someone explain the "us" and "our" in Genesis.

Genesis 1:26-27
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Minister,

I believe God was speaking from his own power and majesty. He was speaking to his word probably, which was in Him.
James, I love the peace that is in you. As opposed to those who fly off the handle when someone questions them. So, I'll probably question you until I either run out of questions or just don't want to ask anymore LOL

Please explain "speaking to His word". (you are probably referring to Logos)
Minister,

Its all good sis. I have no problem being drilled lol. What I mean by speaking to his word. Well, in a sense that the bible says all things were created by the father' word. This would also include humans. So, when God said let "us" make man in our image, I believe it meant God's supreme majesty and power.. his divine expression itself.
ok let me restate (not to be sarcastic) but if restate what you said, then both you and I know that I either understand it or I don't. (smile)

I guess we agree that the Word was there at the beginning (of creation) correct?

John 1

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2The same was in the beginning with God.

3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.


Let me be sure I understand what you are saying. You are saying that the Word (Logos) was in God as an divine expression of Himself but not God because God and the divine expressions of Himself are separate.

That would mean that in John 1:1, the Word being "with" God means that His divine expression was with Him. And God spoke to His divine expression to create all things. For without His divine expression, nothing was made.
ok.. so are their scriptures that explain the "us" and "our" in a different way?

I don't men our opinion of it.. but scriptures that explain this passage differently.

Also, I still would sincerely like an explanation of Jesus being "seated at the right hand of God."

Is this ust an expression of authority? Is he seated next to himself? Is it something completely different?
Anthony,

Not according to Hebraic thought. There was no trinity in mind. The Shema refutes Christian trinitarianism.

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