I have been reading these threads for the last 3 months, and when Hezekiah, Pharoah, Zealot X, and Ozell, James, and Ecclesiastes 12:13 all come on the scene, they brought some info I was not aware of. They also make a lot of sense. All of their points come right out of the Bible, and I can read it, and understand it. When the people who fight with them come on, like Anthony Luckett, Anthony Watson, Trevor, Chaplin Harris, New View, and others come on, they make less sense to me. When they explain their positions, you have to believe what they say is true when they interpret the scriptures because you can't tell what they are talking about just by reading the scriptures. Hezekiah doesn't even put and explanation on half of his posts, but when I read what he posts, I understand what he is saying because he is going by the scriptures, Then when he posted that 2 Peter or 1 Peter, where it said there was not private interpretation of the scriptures. That let me know that people have to interpret it because they don't know the scriptures, and also they want you to have to come to them to hear the word, instead of learning it by reading the word. I think that the so called Israelites seem more Christian then the Christians themselves. They go by the Bible more than you, and you are suppose to know the scriptures. I believe that what the Sunday Christians as Hezekiah would call them all post is what you think, and not what the Bible says.. I would rather learn with the so-called Israelites because they won't look down on me for not knowing. They will help me learn, and love me like the Bible says, by keeping the commandments. Keep posting that scripture fellas. I am writting it down, so I can start teaching my Youth ministry the real word of God. I just got out of Prison, 7 months ago, so I don't know a lot about the Bible because I learned theological studies in Prison. Keep posting Israelite guys, People are watching and learning from you, and I am personally cheering you on..

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Some Christians don't keep it. I am Christian and I keep the Torah.
Brutha watson ,
a follower of christ
How do you follow christ ???? you do what he told you to lets take a look @ it

ok Read(Little HOJ humor)

John 15

3Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

skip down(jesus says the word cleanse// see how i'm following jesus ((not paul)

8Herein is my Father glorified that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples,

9As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.

10If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love
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pretty cut and dry , keep the commandments
Pharaoh,

Did you even READ my post????

I suggest you tread lightly to avoid teetering into name calling.
My dialogue with you on this particular issue ends NOW.
chaplain harris i apologize if you feel insutled ,by my post truely no malice intended i only want you to look at what you propetuating with this israelite vs christian thing and it is not a good thing ,that is not our opposition ,our opposition is we believe that the lord change not and you believe he change his mind on what he require of you ///we are saying we hav to do all that the LORD commanded us(in the book not just the back half) you are saying we Don't



Again i apologize
i know you can that is what you believe , i concur, but lashing out at a nation of people your trying to put them all in one buck and that is and off set of the teaching if we don't agree on anything, we agree love is the fulfillment of the ///was the thread"the Real Deal" love movated(((NO))) it was racist ,taking a mexican i never saw before, never had conversation with and put me in a bowl with him because we both mexican
Pharoah,

Apology accepted.

My point in the suggestion I made was for the purpose of minimizing the fruitless debates.

Look at us! We are already separated! Our separation was evident the minute you spoke "keep the Law" and the minute we replied "we are under Grace because Jesus fulfilled the Law."

Are you giving the doctrine of Jesus Christ a second look? If so, then this ping pong version of dialogue is worth the repetitive conversations we are having. If not, then why bother? I can assure you that we Christians who are standing strong in our faith are not bending.

But, since so many of the BPN members like this version of the ping pong dialogue, then continue on with whatever floats your boat.

Peace in Jesus
"...and i am a follower of christ, a christian, we should not divide,..."

Then why do you playup that you are natural Israelites.
You dont even say that you are spiritual Israel - which we do know that about ourselves (Christians).
What we lift up is that we are a community of spiritual brothers and sisters who are followers of Christ - thus Christians.

Pharoah, which is more important, being the natural seed of Abraham or children of God?
If its children of God - then why must you go around telling people who is and who aint natural Israel.
I mean - it dont matter.
It does matter Sister Newview. You would understand a lot of things if you knew the flesh and spiritual protocol, and the Protocol of the Godhead. Just like those people who would not give up the animal sacrifice, and levitical priesthood when Jesus died and was resurrected. Sunday Christians will not put down their traditions to follow the God of Israel because if you do not keep his commandments you are worshiping another god.
Why being of the natural seed matter more than being of the spiritual seed?
It does not matter more, but it matters.
Pharoah, which is more important, being the natural seed of Abraham or children of God?it is important to know the word israel is in alot of prophesy you nee know who they are/while you seek a spiritual sign,the tru sign is he told us from the begining to end in this book and it is impossible to discern prophesy without know these thing ,so while you assume we are stuck in the old testament actual a greater part oif your future is written in the old testament

If its children of God - then why must you go around telling people who is and who aint natural Israel.
I mean - it dont matter
. it does and you need to read your bible all these things matter ,and after being an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations (Deut 28:37)
i'll dare you send me back to being a negro,or a ni@@a ,a black ,when the lord said i should come in to the knowledge of who i am and return to him (again this in time prophesy found in the old testament telling you of your future but you would not here)
Isaiah 44
1Yet now hear, O Jacob my servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen:

2Thus saith the LORD that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, my servant; and thou, Jesurun, whom I have chosen.

3For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring:

4And they shall spring up as among the grass, as willows by the water courses.

5One shall say, I am the LORD's; and another shall call himself by the name of Jacob; and another shall subscribe with his hand unto the LORD, and surname himself by the name of Israel


why is a problem with you???
are you white???.
BruthaPharoah

i'll dare you send me back to being a negro,or a ni@@a ,a black ,when the lord said i should come in to the knowledge of who i am and return to him (again this in time prophesy found in the old testament telling you of your future but you would not here)
Isaiah 44

1Yet now hear, O Jacob my servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen:

These terms, negro,or a ni@@a ,a black were used to identify our ethnicity from that of the White race - regardless of religious faith.

So, are you now saying by the above statement that you are White now that you have come into the knowledge of who you are?

Just curious.

Peace in Jesus

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