I have been reading these threads for the last 3 months, and when Hezekiah, Pharoah, Zealot X, and Ozell, James, and Ecclesiastes 12:13 all come on the scene, they brought some info I was not aware of. They also make a lot of sense. All of their points come right out of the Bible, and I can read it, and understand it. When the people who fight with them come on, like Anthony Luckett, Anthony Watson, Trevor, Chaplin Harris, New View, and others come on, they make less sense to me. When they explain their positions, you have to believe what they say is true when they interpret the scriptures because you can't tell what they are talking about just by reading the scriptures. Hezekiah doesn't even put and explanation on half of his posts, but when I read what he posts, I understand what he is saying because he is going by the scriptures, Then when he posted that 2 Peter or 1 Peter, where it said there was not private interpretation of the scriptures. That let me know that people have to interpret it because they don't know the scriptures, and also they want you to have to come to them to hear the word, instead of learning it by reading the word. I think that the so called Israelites seem more Christian then the Christians themselves. They go by the Bible more than you, and you are suppose to know the scriptures. I believe that what the Sunday Christians as Hezekiah would call them all post is what you think, and not what the Bible says.. I would rather learn with the so-called Israelites because they won't look down on me for not knowing. They will help me learn, and love me like the Bible says, by keeping the commandments. Keep posting that scripture fellas. I am writting it down, so I can start teaching my Youth ministry the real word of God. I just got out of Prison, 7 months ago, so I don't know a lot about the Bible because I learned theological studies in Prison. Keep posting Israelite guys, People are watching and learning from you, and I am personally cheering you on..

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wow.....
"...They came asking why do your Disciples eat bread, but not wash hands. Why do your disciples pick corn on the Sabbath Day..."

Hez,
Do you guys eat bread with unwashed hands - which would be against the TORAH?
Do you guys get/prepare food on the Sabbath? - which would be against the TORAH?
Newview,

unwashed hands is not from the mouth of YAH.

we can get and prepare food on Shabbat, but we cannot cook on Shabbat. I REALLY recommend you study the Torah, Newview.
"...we can get and prepare food on Shabbat, but we cannot cook on Shabbat..."

Really?!!
I never knew that. And I have fellowshipped among the most pious Messianic Christians.
So you guys can pick your food or prepare you meals on the Sabbath...OK.
Please read my thread on the Truth about Galations and you will see where this hand washing and all that other stuff came from and why Paul was against it.
Newview,

It really does not matter who you fellowshipped with. The truth is the truth. Of course you can get and prepare food. Its no such command negating that. What IS prohibitted is cooking on Shabbat. There's a difference. You did not know that? Ok, that should tell you something... Read the Torah and learn!
I can go out and catch a chicken, pluck a chicken and flour him up on the Sabbath, I just cant cook him?

Hahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah baby!
Newview,

Yeshua plucked grain on the Sabbath ;)
Noooooo, you dont say.
No and the other is a tradition, not a law.
i dont buy or sell on the Sabbath, or cook.....i prepare all of this before the Sabbath & get things that dont need to be cooked...like lunch meat or whatever :)
Rebekah,

What you do is sort of along the lines of what most other people say how they keep the Sabbath.
They prepare their meals before the Sabbath comes in.
But I just learned from James that it is indeed lawful to hunt my chicken, kill my chicken, pluck my chicken and season and flour it - I just cant cook it.

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