Are pastors who allowed their wives to preach and teach over men in the congregation disobeying God?

1Timothy 2

11 Let a woman in quietness learn in all subjection, 12 and a woman I do not suffer to teach, nor to rule a husband, but to be in quietness, 13 for Adam was first formed, then Eve, 14 and Adam was not deceived, but the woman, having been deceived, into transgression came, 15 and she shall be saved through the child-bearing, if they remain in faith, and love, and sanctification, with sobriety.

1Timothy 3
5(If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?)


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What Paul meant? you mean what God meant...for women to be silent in the congregations while service was taking were permitted to speak only..never women...nor were they permitted to teach or preach...but be silent...

Now I know the fiminist here would disagree with that but thats long as the word of God was made clear to you...
sorry Bro. I grew up in A very loving home with a mother who knew the Lord and loved him very much. God is good!!!!
Queen Terrell, HOPE and Evangelist Altha Fugett, I applaud you ladies for defending our place in ministry and in the kingdom. I am so tired of men who are intimidated by women in ministry.

God is the one who said women are not to preach or teach or have authority over men...are you suggesting God is Intimidated?
where in the bible did you see God said A woman cannot (preach)? go back and read again my brother, its not there. and men have failed their God given right to be the head of the home and the church, so someone has to do what the men are not doing, too many women are getting up in the mornings going to a deadend job and paying the bills that men are not paying, and taking care of the babies that men refuse to take care of, and in the church they want to entertain or controll, its not about either. ask God to renew a right spirit in you.
God clearly says a woman is not to have authority over the man in the congregation or in the home...Women can preach all they want..outsie to the other women..but they were not allowed to be pastors of a church or overseer or bishops...
according to God's word...but as explained these type of women are in rebellion and disobedience to God's word...some go as far as not believing the whole word of God...

Assuming Paul wrote that..and not God, these women have been deceived by Satan,and most likelyy are under the power of the anti-Christ not believe the word of God...and outr right rebel against his word...and become preachers and teachers and pastors...and defile the word of God in their behavior..

as with Eve..when she rebelled..
YOU SAID: Queen, when they dont want to work they use the same scripture WIVES SUBMIT..there are so many men who have ministries that are built on the backs of their wives working outside the home like a dog,

Luke 8
1After this, Jesus traveled about from one town and village to another, proclaiming the good news of the kingdom of God. The Twelve were with him, 2and also some women who had been cured of evil spirits and diseases: Mary (called Magdalene) from whom seven demons had come out; 3Joanna the wife of Cuza, the manager of Herod’s household; Susanna; and many others. These women were helping to support them out of their own means.

Hmmm In case some of you have no Idea what a godly wife is like I've posted scripture below...enjoy

10c A wife of noble character who can find?
She is worth far more than rubies.

11Her husband has full confidence in her
and lacks nothing of value.

12She brings him good, not harm,
all the days of her life.

13She selects wool and flax
and works with eager hands.

14She is like the merchant ships,
bringing her food from afar.

15She gets up while it is still dark;
she provides food for her family

and portions for her servant girls.
16She considers a field and buys it;

out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.
17She sets about her work vigorously;

her arms are strong for her tasks.
18She sees that her trading is profitable,

and her lamp does not go out at night.
19In her hand she holds the distaff

and grasps the spindle with her fingers.
20She opens her arms to the poor

and extends her hands to the needy.
21When it snows, she has no fear for her household;

for all of them are clothed in scarlet.
22She makes coverings for her bed;

she is clothed in fine linen and purple.
23Her husband is respected at the city gate,

where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.
24She makes linen garments and sells them,

and supplies the merchants with sashes.
25She is clothed with strength and dignity;

she can laugh at the days to come.
26She speaks with wisdom,

and faithful instruction is on her tongue.
27She watches over the affairs of her household

and does not eat the bread of idleness.
28Her children arise and call her blessed;

her husband also, and he praises her:
29“Many women do noble things,

but you surpass them all.”
30Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting;

but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.
31Give her the reward she has earned,

and let her works bring her praise at the city gate.

Men are the boss..their rightful place is being the head or boss of the wife...its the wives that need to take their rightful place as servant...this is what this whole thread is trying to teach...

1 Corinthians 11:9 for indeed man was not created for the woman's sake, but woman for the man's sake

2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

1 Timothy 2:12
I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.

are you willing to take that chance that God didn't say it?
Yes we can..Moses is a prime see, these false churches are teaching a me know...I have to do this and that then God can do what he wants...the false gospel of me me me being taught in these churches today shift's the focus from Christ.... to the people...this way the false preachers can continue to exploit the church goers...

who are we? aside of Christ we are absolutely NOTHING... Christ is all in all and everything we are is Christ alone...
Jesus said women are not to teach preach or have authority over men in the congregation or in the marriage home..thats until Christ returns..


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