Which Jesus/Yeshua Christ/YHWH are you following?

[Min. Kareem A. Christian]

Which Jesus/Yeshua Christ/YHWH are you following?

I was just reading a book entitled, “Jesus of Suburbia” … in this book the author goes to great lengths to make the contrast between the Jesus/Yeshua of Nazareth vs. the Jesus/Yeshua of the Suburbs… I have to agree with the author, Christianity is split on the Person and Work of Jesus/Yeshua Christ/YHWH… many have an distorted view and understanding of Jesus/Yeshua Christ/YHWH of Nazareth… like Judas, many thought/thinke He came to over power the social, economical and political world structures… for many they preach and follow a Jesus/Yeshua that’s similar to a catastrophic Santa Claus… that’s the Jesus/Yeshua of Suburbia… Whereas, the Jesus/Yeshua of Nazareth never promised His followers world riches, fame, social or economic structure… but He did promise His followers a cross, a crown, and eternity with Him...

Which Jesus/Yeshua Christ/YHWH are you teaching, preaching, and following?

[HOPE - Psalm 43:5]

Why is the vatican considered the source of Christianity? Do all Believers call themselves... Christians??? Do all follow Catholicism and consider it their source of "truth"?

[YahsNiviim]

All christians are catholic. What are Baptist, ame, Lutheran, holiness,7 day adventist and any that I missed. They are protestants. All they are doing is protesting the pope being the head of the church. They are not separating themselves from any doctrine. This is the problem that the Catholic church has forced their doctrine on the world. The have killed to do it. YHWH does not need that kind of evangelism. First off we need to define who the first believer's where? They were not called christian and he was not called christ. The Hebrews where looking for the HaMashiyach the messiah. Second they where called followers of the way. What way? Yahshua's way and his way was YHWH's way. They were Hebrews. Not greeks and romans. Not to say that there were not a few that came along for the ride.
It is also the head of the christian church whether folks want to admit it or not.
See this is where the replacement theology come in at. They are replace Yisrael with the church and this is not so. We have a very good series on our website that I suggest that you watch. It is 4 hours long. But each section is separate a hour long. It teaches on the history of the church and it is a historical documentary. It not from a hebrew stand point but from the very church that killed millions to make this religion the biggest in the world
also the catholic church is the head and start of Islam and Judaism and most do not know that. What is the reason for this? To keep the truth of the True people hidden. The followers of the way where the true people. Scripture tells us that you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.
Here is the link for that series for anyone who wants to view this.

[HOPE - Psalm 43:5]

ok... have you ever considered that the "Christians" that are so frustrating to some are actually coming into the knowledge of the TRUTH. As slow a process as it is... doesn't anyone acknowledge that it is happening? I have seen more and more of these so-called protestant churches not only acknolwedging feast days but observing them as well.... and it has created a "thirst" for truth... Hebraic truth.

Did you come to the knowledge of Hebraic Truth overnight???

If no one ever told me about Hebrew roots of scripture and the blatant and covert Hellenistic influence in many translations... how would I have known?

*sigh* don't be weary in well doing but also don't kick the mule that is drinking from the trough of truth one sip at a time.

Patience is not tolerance but patience should be coupled with teaching even when there is frustration with the pupil who has not asked to be a pupil. And should be doubled for the one who IS asking.

Not saying speak softly nor am I saying don't come with a "sword" when you come against religious arrogance. But ignorance... well all it needs is perserverance to overcome (on both sides)

[YahsNiviim]

You my sister are wise beyond your years. You know Tracy it took me 32 years.
I remember arguing with my mother about je/sus and she kept trying to tell me that there was no j's in the hebrew as well as the greek and none in the english till about the 1500's.

Now here is the Question. Does anything catch YHWH by surprise? If YHWH gave Yahshua a name above every name would that name change? Would it have to have a letter invent to make that name the name? No.
YHWH gave us very thing that we needed when he created us. We had a language. And it wasn't this language. I just wish that my mother was here to see that I findlly saw the truth that YHWH was trying to impart to me at that time.

[HOPE - Psalm 43:5]

You know.. when I was invited to the Olive Branch group, I had been reading Romans 11 (smile)

Question... were the Samaritans considered Hebrews even though they were "mixed breed". I know there was some serious cultural issues concerning this.

[YahsNiviim]

Sister I just love your Ruach. By me being a half breed I had some serious issues growing up. I am Black I am german (later finding out that it was really jewish) (Askanazi) but finding out that even if I am not hebrew fully that I can be grafted in. That is the only way to be saved by being born again and being grafted in. YHWH will not take back his word and he said that he will save Yisrael. I am Yisrael born or grafted.

[HOPE - Psalm 43:5]

well alrighty then... from one mix breed to another.... (Irish, Black, American Indian - paternal and maternal)

Shalom

[HOPE - Psalm 43:5]

I wonder what responses I will get on my blog titled SAY MY NAME, SAY MY NAME. It is an interesting read for all who are or are not cognizant of the importance of knowing the meaning of... a name. And there's a non-rhetorical question at the end.

The more you learn, the more you know and the more you know the more you grow. And yet, knowing is half the battle.

[Min. Kareem A. Christian]

You’re right my sister Tracy… knowing is only half the battle… the Pharisees knew very well… in fact they were experts in the law of knowing… there must be a transgression between knowing and practicing that what you know… living what one knows is where God wants us to be… we must keep in mind that God/YHWH wants us to have a relationship with Him… not knowledge of Him… what good is it to have directions and not utilize them? I recently tried that with putting together a swing set for my newborn daughter… I had the directions in my hand…but thought I could look at the box and put it together… it wasn’t until my wife called me and told me I forgot to put two screws that were attached to the directions in the swing to secure it… I had to go back to the directions and learn where to put the screws... God/YHWH has given us His Word to know and practice what is taught…

[HOPE - Psalm 43:5]

LOL that was my point... knowledge just makes you a "hearer" of the word. not a "doer"

but how can they hear without a.......

[HOPE - Psalm 43:5]

Ahh... dialogue... a beautiful thing.

[YahsNiviim]

Shalom
I want to deal with this in parts as not to get them confused.


Reply by Rev. Anthony Luckett 19 hours ago
Jesus- form of Joshua meaning Jehova is salvation or savior. Both words mean savior. It is the earthly name of God's son. As God, He was not called Jesus or Christ. Jesus is the greek form of the Hebrew Yehoshua (rendered Joshua) meaning Savior or God who is salvation.


(1) the names je/sus

ÅIhsou'ß Iesous (ee-ay-sooce');
Word Origin: Hebrew, Noun Masculine, Strong #: 2424

Jesus = "Jehovah YHWH is salvation"
1. Jesus, the Son of God, the Saviour of mankind, God incarnate
2. Jesus Barabbas was the captive robber whom the Jews begged Pilate to release instead of Christ
3. Joshua was the famous captain of the Israelites, Moses' successor (Ac. 7:45, Heb. 4:
4.
5. Jesus, son of Eliezer, one of the ancestors of Christ (Lu. 3:
6.
7. Jesus, surnamed Justus, a Jewish Christian, an associate with Paul in the preaching of the gospel (Col. 4:
8.
KJV Word Usage and Count
Jesus 972
Jesus (Joshua) 2
Jesus (Justus) 1

Here we can see that the name is used 972 times as je/.sus then we see that they name is used 2 times as Joshua. This is talking about the OT man Joshua. In some translations it use Joshua. Why? Because that is his name and there they are truthful. (now let us get to the facts. There where no j's in the greek the hebrew the latin and are not till this day. The j' did not hit english till about the 1500's. So there is no je/sus or Jeh/ho/vah.
(2) that leads us to the next name. Jeh/ho/vah If people knew what Hovah meant they would not use it.

hyh Hayah (haw-yaw); Verb, Strong #: 1961

1. to be, become, come to pass, exist, happen, fall out
a. (Qal)
1. ----- 1a
b. to happen, fall out, occur, take place, come about, come to pass 1a
c. to come about, come to pass
1. to come into being, become 1a
d. to arise, appear, come 1a
e. to become 1a
1. to become 1a
2. to become like 1a
3. to be instituted, be established
4. to be 1a
f. to exist, be in existence 1a
g. to abide, remain, continue (with word of place or time) 1a
h. to stand, lie, be in, be at, be situated (with word of locality) 1a
i. to accompany, be with
j. (Niphal)
1. to occur, come to pass, be done, be brought about
2. to be done, be finished, be gone
KJV Word Usage and Count
thanksgiving 1
come to
come to
has
were
were
were
better for

hyh Hayah (hah-yaw'); Noun Feminine, Strong #: 1962

1. destruction, calamity
KJV Word Usage and Count
calamity 2 There is a difference. Here is another difference.




1961 אֶהְיֶה, הָיָה [hayah /haw•yaw/] v. A primitive root [compare 1933]; TWOT 491; GK 181 and 2118; 75 occurrences; AV translates as “was”, “come to pass”, “came”, “has been”, “were happened”, “become”, “pertained”, and “better for thee”. 1 to be, become, come to pass, exist, happen, fall out. 1A (Qal). 1A1 ——-. 1A1A to happen, fall out, occur, take place, come about, come to pass. 1A1B to come about, come to pass. 1A2 to come into being, become. 1A2A to arise, appear, come. 1A2B to become. 1A2B1 to become. 1A2B2 to become like. 1A2B3 to be instituted, be established. 1A3 to be. 1A3A to exist, be in existence. 1A3B to abide, remain, continue (with word of place or time). 1A3C to stand, lie, be in, be at, be situated (with word of locality). 1A3D to accompany, be with. 1B (Niphal). 1B1 to occur, come to pass, be done, be brought about. 1B2 to be done, be finished, be gone. 1962 הַיָּה [hayah /hah•yaw/] n f. Another form for 1943; TWOT 483b; GK 2119; Two occurrences; AV translates as “calamity” twice. 1 destruction, calamity.


483 הָוָה (hāwâ) I, fall. (ASV, RSV. So KJV, by confusion with hāwâ II see below, renders the verb as “be.”)
Derivatives
483a הַוְוָה (hawwâ) calamity.
483b הַיָּה (hayyâ) calamity.
483c הֹוָה (hōwâ) disaster.
The single OT occurrence of hāwâ I (Job 37:6) is an imperative, describing physical falling. Its form, hĕwē˒, has been called “an Arabizing usage” (BDB, p. 217); but more likely the aleph is to differentiate it from hāwâ II (KB, p. `"227).
The verb hāwâ I depicts the literal fall of rain and snow (Job 37:6). But its derived nouns speak metaphorically of a fall in fortune. So hayyâ identifies the calamities that descend on Job (Job 6:2; 30:13); and hōwâ, those to fall suddenly upon Babylon (Isa 47:11) or upon Judah, “disaster upon disaster” (Ezk 7:26). The commonest noun, hawwâ, advances from an identifying of the fact of troubles (Ps 57:1), such as those brought upon parents by an unwise son (Prov 19:13), to the cause for troubles, i.e. moral failure. Psalm 5:9 [H 10] may therefore be rendered either, “Their heart is destruction” (RSV) or “wickedness” (KJV, ASV). Other psalms describe a throne of “iniquity” (Ps 94;20) and “wickedness” which rulers devise (Ps 52:2 [H 4] evidently Saul himself was the “mighty man” of v. 1 [H 2], not the underling Doeg, cf. J. A. Alexander, The Psalms, II, p. 13). But a good man can perceive these “perverse things” (Job 6:30). In Scripture all such lapses are subject to God’s sovereign control and can be overcome by sincere faith (Ps 38:12–13; 94:19–20).
הַוְוָה (hawwâ). Calamity, wickedness, evil desire, ASV, RSV, also craving, lust; KJV “mischievous desire, naughtiness,” Prov 10:3; 11:6; Mic 7:3. Derives from ˒āwâ “to desire” (q.v.). KB, p. 228.
הַיָּה (hayyâ). Calamity. A Kethib variant on hawwâ in Job.
הֹוָה (hōwâ). Disaster. KJV, ASV, “mischief,” in its archaic sense of calamity.
J.B.P.
484 הָוָה (hāwâ) II, the older form and rare synonym of hāyâ (q.v.), be, become. (ASV and RSV similar, but RSV, lie, Eccl 11:3.)
Derivatives
484a יהוה (yhwh) Yahweh.
484b יָה (yāh) Yahweh.
The root signifies either existence, e.g. of a tree trunk, being at rest where it falls (Eccl 11:3), or development, e.g. of Nehemiah’s alleged scheme to become king of Judah (Neh 6:6). Only three other instances of hāwâ II are preserved in the Hebrew OT (Gen 27:29; Eccl 2:22; Isa 16:4), though hāwâ remains as the standard form of the verb “to be” in biblical Aramaic.
יַהוֶה (Yahweh). The Tetragrammaton YHWH, the LORD, or Yahweh, the personal name of God and his most frequent designation in Scripture, occurring 5321 times (TDNT, III, p. 1067) in the OT (KJV and ASV, the LORD, or, in those contexts where the actual title “Lord” also occurs, GOD, except KJV, Jehovah, in seven passages where the name is particularly stressed (Ex 6:3; Ps 83:18 [H 19]; Isa 12:2; 26:4] or combined with other elements, such as Jehovah Jireh [Gen 22:14; cf. Ex 17:15; Jud 6:24; ASV, consistently Jehovah]).
יָה (yāh). A contracted form of Yahweh. Occurs fifty times (rendered in English as above, except KJV, Jah, in Ps 68:4 [H 5], where the name is particularly stressed).
Also numerous proper nouns compounded with shortened forms of the divine name “Yahweh,” e.g.: yĕhônātān, Jehonathan, “Yahweh has given”; abbreviated yônātān “Jonathan,” a substitute name for the same person (compare I Sam 13:2–3 with 14:6, 8; II Sam 17:17, 20 with I Kgs 1:42–43); and yĕhôšāpāṭ, Jehoshaphat, “Yahweh has judged”; alternatively yôšāpāṭ, “Joshaphat,” applied only to two subordinates of David (I Chr 11:43; 15:24).
The theological importance of hāwâ II stems from its derived nouns, which identify the personal name of deity, Yahweh, or its contractions.
The tetragrammaton YHWH is not ordinarily written with its appropriate Hebrew vowels. But that the original pronunciation was YaHWeH seems probable, both from the corresponding verbal form, the imperfect of hāwâ, anciently yahweh, and from later representation of YHWH in Greek iaoue or iabe. An apocopated form of hāwâ in the imperfect, that occurs in Eccl 11:3, is yĕhû˒ (otiose aleph, GKC, p. 211). This in turn may account for the shorter name YHW in the fifth century B.C. Elephantine papyri and the initial elements yĕhô-, yô-, and yē- (KB, p. 369) in such names as Jehozadak, “Yahweh (is) righteous,” or Joel, “Yahweh (is) God.”
Now most of the stuff that you listed below I know is from your study but most of it is wrong. His name is YHWH not adonay. That was replaced by man. So do we follow man or YHWH?