Who Or What Is Lucifer Or Satan... really??

[James Pierce]

Anyone

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

Man, when the Lord said he poured out a deep sleep, he was true to his word.

[Chaplain Pat Harris]

Bro. Ozell must have been asleep when he wrote this . . . .???????

Reply by ozell adams 18 hours ago
lucifer is the light bearer.

Gabriel is the light bearer now

satan relinquished that role when he sinned against God Rv 12

the angel who brings the truth to man is Gabriel

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

Luke 1:18-20 And Zacharias said unto the angel, Whereby shall I know this? for I am an old man, and my wife well stricken in years. And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings. And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season.

He said that he stands in the presence of God. Is not the light the Word?


Daniel 9:20-22 And whiles I was speaking, and praying, and confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel, and presenting my supplication before the LORD my God for the holy mountain of my God; Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation. And he informed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding.

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

I will set up a Thread, but all you are going to do is try to disprove it because it is plain we are to keep the commandments. I post at least 10 scriptures in the new testament that said keep the commandments, and all you guys do is lean on your traditions.

[James Pierce]

Isaiah 14, referring to a "Lucifer" is not referring to a demonic being, rather, it is referring to an actual man... the King of Babylon. Verse 4,"you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon." From verse 14-22 is all about this King... a taunt against him. It has nothing to do with a demonic creature.

Ezekiel 28 is the same way. Verse 2,"Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre, Thus says the Lord God." This is about a man.. the prince of Tyre, and not about a demonic creature. This too, is a taunt of this king.