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Over the years, I have heard many men and women in the holiness denominations say that women shouldn't wear pants in the church.

Were is the scripture to support the ideology that women shouldn't wear pants? If it is in scripture then I would have to ask why are men wearing pants? Did men wear pants in biblical times or did their wear something that covered their loins and then long robe like attire? I mean isn't that what you depict in your biblical plays? So why aren't the men being asked to wear similar apparel in the church to maintain a outward appearance of holiness? Why aren't they asked to not cut their hair (both facial and head)

What are the clothing designations for men in the holiness denominations.

After all, without holiness NO man/woman shall see God.....

Tags: clothing, holiness, pants, women

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If a woman feels comfortable with it on-WEAR IT!

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I've been watching this discussion. I don't have too much to say about it. Women wearing pants to church doesn't bother me. But on another note, to you and tracy congrats for jumping the broom! lol

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This seems to be a bigger issue in "Black Churches" why is that?

I see other races of people entering the House of worship with regular everyday clothes on....and having an awesome worship experience.
It is called "Sunday morning Worship right?
A time we come together to worship God.
Dresses, pants.....I wonder what Mose had own when he worshiped God & when got showed him the burning bush! I wonder what the woman got in the act of adultery had own, when Jesus forgave her. Better yet can some tell me when dresses and pants were invited?
We waste time with pity debates, when their are people like Mary Magelene that need to be save and set free. Lord forgive us.

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dear Sister When we mention the term church it is so loosely opinionated Like all churches are the same..They are not unfortunately but they should be modeled out of the bible so when we look for the answers First our relationship and love for God and to know him as an obedient child in HIS WORD must be in prayer. Praise God you desire TO KNOW The Master King Jesus at a greater LEVEL than Most.( The dress.) If you ask yourself and pray if I wear this Garment Will that Please God? Or will that please Men? (The Lust of the Eye and of the flesh,the pride of life all says HEY Look at ME I am Somebody! Draws Attention to Self! Or will the garment you Choose to wear WILL IT Draw people to the Spirit of God? God wants His People to Be separate for Him? How Can someone at a grocery store look at you and say : She's Different! She's covered and wearing a skirt .She LOOKS LIKE A CHRISTIAN! I WILL ASK HER TO PRAY FOR ME!Perhaps the persons family member is dying and needs encouragement(NEEDS GOD)? But on the other hand if this person sees you and you are wearing tight jeans and your top is low cut with cleavage hanging all out HOW IN THE WORLD ARE THEY TO TELL YOU APART FROM THE CROWD IN THIS WORLD? They Won't EVEN GIVE YOU OR GOD A THOUGHT! 2 Corinthians 6:16-18 (King James Version)

16And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

18And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
You Were Looking for a scripture not to wear pants right? Well I have one. BUT Remember we must LOVE SCRIPTURES ENOUGH TO WALK IN THEM WITH OUR GOD! THIS IS A LOVE RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS! This is not about Religion this is about a relationship with God. I AM NOT TELLING YOU YOU CAN AND CAN"T WEAR PANTS It's your choice .IT"S NOT SOME HARD TASK SET OF RULES! I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT,Before I share a scripture on Pants with you ok. I don't want any misunderstanding on this topic.I share this in the LOVE of Christ. God Gives us the free will to choose to follow His word and to walk in obedience to it.. Amen? Ok, One more thing what do you see when you go the restrooms?
For the Woman's Bathroom there is a picture of a woman hanging on the door. How do you know the difference between a Man and a Woman's bathroom? The Skirt separates the woman From a Man.
Another Thing if you study history before woman's Libb when pants were promoted on a women (Woman's Rights)
The Women Looked Wholesome and wore long skirts and shirts that were Modest. Today The devil and TODAY'S FASHIONS are the farthest thing from what God Has Called us to be!! Skirts were originally intended to be worn by women. Pants for men. But The world and it's fashions Don't Care They are in it for the flesh! (PROFIT,SEX,AND PRIDE)
But Anyway this is just food for thought. I too was questioning pants and the Lord and His Grace Revealed to me to leave the world behind and walk closer to Him. So I do encourage you to pray about this. Ok, So here it is. After this It's between You and The Lord.

Deuteronomy 22:5 (King James Version)

5The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

With Homosexually, Cross dressers,prostitutes and just regular people The Devil Wants to deceive with TODAY's Fashions to many and take away their identity of who they are in God. God created us ALL to be in HIS IMAGE! When we are born-again We are a new Creatures in Christ old things have passed away and we can start to walk in His word by the holy Ghost.
Hebrews 12:14 (King James Version)

14Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:


I hope This Helps Love In Christ,Della Morton

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I honor all leaders and people in ministry not a basher but lets go to God,s Word.
1 Samuel 16:7 (KJV)
But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.
We see in this passage of scripture is that Jesse was looking at how tall and big jesse sons were but God said. but GOD SAID MAN LOOKETH ON OUTWARD APPERANCE BUT GOD LOOKS AT HEART. Man is still doing it today. The real person is the heart not what they wear lol

APPEARENCE--kosmos, kos'-mos; probably from the base of Greek 2865 (komizo); orderly arrangement, i.e. decoration; by implication the world (in a wide or narrow sense, including its inhabitant, literal or figurative [moral]) :- adorning, world.

HEART-lebab, lay-bawb'; from Hebrew 3823 (labab); the heart (as the most interior organ); used also like Hebrew 3820 (leb) :- + bethink themselves, breast, comfortably, courage, ([faint], [tender-] heart [-ed]), midst, mind, × unawares, understanding.


1 Peter 3:3-4 (KJV)
Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; [4] But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

In this verse Peter said it sooo plainly dont let it be just about clothes. But the most important is your heart be not corrupted
Leave you with this. Clothes cant make you holy or unrightouness. dont get me wrong we must dress moderlately But if your heart is bad. you better pray
Thanks so much
Bro. Rock

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Pants can be tastefully worn or untasteful worn.

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just as skirts, there are some that wear skirts and you wished they had a pair of pants on

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THE CLOTHING OR THE APPEARANCE OF TODAY’S WOMEN: IS IT A MODERNISM OR A CORRUPTION?


FIVE QUESTIONS TO THE WOMEN OF GOD...

1- Is it decent for a woman of God to wear trousers or pants (breeches)?

« A woman must not wear men's clothing, nor a man wear women's clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this.”

Deuteronomy 22:5

2- Is it decent for a woman of God to use lipstick and nail varnish?

3- Is it decent for a woman of God to wear artificial nails, artificial hair and eyebrows?

4- Is it decent for a woman of God to wear curls of ears and pearls?

“I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God”.

1 Timothy 2: 9-10

5- Is it decent for a woman of God to cut off her hair?

“Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice - nor do the churches of God”.

1 Corinthians 11:14-16


NO! NO! …and… NO! IT'S USELESS FOR THEM TO WEAR SUCH THINGS!!!

“Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is-his good, pleasing and perfect will”.

Romans 12:2


“Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight. For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful. They were submissive to their own husbands »

1 Peter 3:3-5

“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."

Revelation 3:22

Blessings,

Brother Germain

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I believe sometimes our responses to issues we havent consulted with God about...are out of tradition. We know that Jesus and those of his time wore robes..not pants..therefore if women shouldnt wear pants neither should men? I mean some things we say are not well thought out...I'm learning to speak on those things as they are revealed to me by the Spirit and those things that arent I leave them alone or I explain it as my opinion. I think we would get a long alot better as Servants of God if we take this approach more often...I would rather keep the peace than bring confusion over a matter that wont get you in or keep you out of heaven.

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Well I tell u this my sister. When the Lord bless me with a wife. I pray that she do love pretty nails. love to dress nice, love to get her hair done, and loooove to wear some jeans lol . Most of all she loves God with all her heart. I dont care how spiritual she is I dont want no woman lookin like Granny . with them loooong dreeesss down to the floor and looooog sleeves. (please stop me im laughin sooo hard). Im serious too. We can be super deep if we want to. But this brother wants a neat dressing woman.

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If we study church history this is the reason why the church split in so many directions. Each had their own definitions of what they thought was holinest. Someone said "women won’t and never will be equal to man in the tone of order. God, Christ, Man, and then the Woman, it’s the Word of God." Order has nothing to do with equallity. For the sake of order, God has given women a submissive position so that order is maintained. But never was the man suppose to take on the mentality that she isn't equal. For we are to submit one to another. The woman equally has something valuable to offer not only her husband and family but also the Kingdom of God. Men who possess the paridigm that their wives are not equal tend to misuse their wives. Misuse is not a dirty word. Just like ignorance isn;t. If you dont view your wife as an equal you will disqualify her and discount her purpose in your life and you will not fully benefit from her purpose. This order God, Christ, man, and then women refers to the family unit to appropriate unity. Without this set structure their would be two visions or division.

Now back to the subject, forgive me for the rabbit trail, The bible doesn;t speak about pants. But it does speak about men clothing. Some people veiw pants as men clothing. I think it is error for anyone to make a doctrine out of one piece of clothing pants in mind as being men's clothing. The point the writer was making is: It's wrong to not be able to distinguish a woman from a man from the way she dressess. The bible says that there is nothing new under the sun. The writer knew there was something inherently wrong, spiritually wrong when women look like men by how they dress. You can see it very evidently today. Some call them dikes, butch, the masculine role in the lesbian relationship. It could also go the other way, men dressing like women. Nonetheless, sometimes people dress "holy" to appease other people. The bible also says, be happy in the thing which you allow. Of course this is no excuse to dress what is obviously unholy, but we have to stop putting people into bondage and stop letting people put us into bondage over things that God is just not concerned with. Now if God tells you to not wear pants, or make up or whatever, I can't say that you haven't heard from God. If God tells you this then for you to do it anyway would be sin for you. But don't make your convictions someone elses and condem them for what God told you to do especially if it is not a written instruction in the bible. Paul after Jesus death burial and ressurection did not have to keep some of the Jewish customs that he kept but he did because he didnt want to offend the people he was called to minister to, to make his witness ineffective. This is why he said he became all things to all people.

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I've got this great way to apply Romans 14:14-21. I replace "meat and drink" with whatever is being debated in the body of Christ today, and come away with something like the following:


"I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean. But if thy [sister] be grieved with thy [pants], now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not [her] with thy [pants], for whom Christ died. Let not then your good be evil spoken of: For the kingdom of God is not [pants]; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. For [she] that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men. Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another. For [pants] destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that [woman] who [weareth] with offence. It is good neither to [wear pants], nor any thing whereby thy [sister] stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak."

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