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Comment by Mark H. Stevens, Th.D on June 17, 2009 at 11:08pm
We Protestants are just as guilty as the Roman Catholic Church (our sister) of having a church run by professional clergy. We don’t study hard because we depend on the Pastor to feed us. So many Christians are spiritual babies because they refuse to feed themselves. Catholics are not the only ones that just believe what clergy feeds them. I have heard so many Protestants (to include Pentecostal and Charismatic) quote their Pastor’s like it was the Bible. Often in the Bible Institute I teach in kick over “Sacred Cows” with the Word of God. Even after showing some people sound Bible doctrine they will still say, “But my church doesn’t teach that.” Or “My Pastor teaches different.” I don’t care if your pastor wears a gold robe and floats into the pulpit on wires, if he is teaching something contrary to scripture, HE IS WRONG! I hate to use this as an example but it is true, if Christians were as ministry minded as Jehovah Witnesses, imagine how much of an impact we would make in our communities? Unfortunately we are so clergy driven in our churches that we act like “It’s not my job man.” We forget that Jesus gave 5 types of ministry gifts for the church, not just Pastors! He gave Apostles, Teachers, Pastors, Prophets, and Evangelist for the edification of the local church as well as the body as a whole. We need to have all of those ministry gifts in operation in order for our churches to run effectively. Can you imagine a basketball team with only point guards? It wouldn’t win much because they need other skills and talents in order to be a good team. The local church in many instances functions like the basketball team with all point guards.

God gave FIVE types of ministry gifts for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of ministry, and for the edifying of the Body of Christ. Most people think the only type of minister God sends is Pastors! Thank God for Pastors! Pastors are the main instrument in feeding the new converts (Lambs), but pastors NEED HELP! If there are no evangelist out in the highways and hedges to compel people to believe on Jesus Christ, and no teachers to take people from milk to meat and defend Biblical doctrine, and no prophets to give words in season, and finally no apostles to GO and establish ministries, churches will NOT grow!

Too often our modern day churches are so Pastor driven, that the flock is overly dependant on their Pastors. God never intended Christians to be on the sidelines or spectators in ministry. We are all to be Ambassadors for Jesus Christ. Most churches especially in America are governed by one person…the Pastor! In most African-American Churches the Pastor is NOT ONLY a pastor, but he pretty much does everything in the church related to ministry. This man or woman preaches almost every sermon; many teach Bible study, lead prayer meetings, go into prisons and hospitals, and some even sweep and clean the church house. This is as ludicrous as a Basketball team that lets the point guard shoot 50 times a game and post up in the centers position. Just like a Basketball team the church was given guidance from GOD as to how to run the team called the CHURCH!
In the Early Church you find that the Body of Christ functions very different from the church as we know it today. The Early Church was NOT clergy driven, it was laity driven. In fact it almost seemed like there was no such thing as “laity”, the saints of the Book of Acts were an active and vital part of the ministry. The Apostles could NOT have had the spiritual success they had unless they had ministry minded men and women functioning in their respective positions.
Comment by The Apostle on June 17, 2009 at 7:46pm
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Comment by Mark H. Stevens, Th.D on June 8, 2009 at 1:25pm
GIVING IS VOLUNTARY

The New Testament teachings on giving are unpretentiously simplistic involving the heart and not some law:

"…freely ye have received, freely give" (Matt. 10:8b).

"Give to him that asks you, and from him that would borrow of you turn not thou away" (Matt. 5:42).

"The churches in Macedonia and Achaia, you see, have thought it a good thing to make a contribution towards the poor Christians in Jerusalem. They have decided to do this, and indeed they owe it to them. For if the gentiles have had a share in the Jews’ spiritual good things it is only fair that they should look after the Jews as far as the good things of this world are concerned" (Rom. 15:26-27, J. B. Phillips Translation).

"Give and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over…" (Luke 6:38).

"I have showed you all things, how that so laboring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how He said, It is more blessed to give than to receive" (Acts 20:35).

"But this I say, He which sows sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which sows bountifully shall reap also bountifully. Every man according as he purposes in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity [Gk: ‘compulsion’ as in a commanded law]: for God loves a cheerful giver" (II Cor. 9:6-7).

Follow these admonitions on giving and you will be blessed of God.

There is one more very important Scripture that should go in this group and that is I Tim. 5:8,

"But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own household, he has denied the faith, and worse than an infidel."

Now I have emails and letters from elderly and disabled people who were told by their pastor that they are expected to tithe on their meager income regardless as to whether there is sufficient left over to care for the family. This is disgraceful beyond comprehension. And this is one of the main reasons that I write the material that I do for our bible-truths web site.

Numerous times I have heard ministers intimidating TBN viewers to contribute money that they did not have. Even if they owed more money to creditors in monthly payments than their salaries could possibly pay, they were still asked to make huge donations to TBN. Some contend that the more money one needs to meet his already staggering obligations, the more money he needs to send in. They are even told to pledge huge amounts (TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS was the asking pledge when last I saw this reprehensible carnival sideshow chicanery) of money that they did not have, and then to send in ten percent of the pledge and pay the rest off in installments. Have they no shame?

"HOW ARE WE TO PAY THE CHURCH BILLS
IF THE PEOPLE DON’T TITHE?"

I get asked that question regularly. I tell them all the same thing: "Pay your church bills the same way I pay my living expenses—with a check." Here’s the thing: You don’t need to lie and deceive and pervert the word of God in order to pay church expenses.

Why doesn’t your pastor just ask the people to contribute toward paying the church expenses? I can tell you why. A few do, but most don’t. And why is that? It is because those who teach false doctrines to exact money illegally from their congregation don’t have faith to trust their people to contribute voluntarily out of love. They only know how to teach the Old Testament laws, which are carnal, and therefore don’t know how to teach the New Testaments laws, which are SPIRITUAL.

Most pastors see two options:

Teach that people will be cursed if they don’t tithe ten percent of their annual salaries,

Trust God in faith to provide the money from voluntary gifts given from the heart.
If, in reality, trusting would bring in more money than pronouncing curses, no one would ever hear a sermon on tithing again, anywhere on earth. And if anyone suggested to any of these same pastors that tithing is an Old Testament law that Christians must keep or be cursed, those same pastors would ridicule you to scorn for ever suggesting such an obvious unscriptural doctrine that is not binding on New Testament Christians.

They will do whatever brings in the most money. And it is a proven fact, unscriptural threats of curses for no tithing, and blessings for tithing brings in more money than trusting the people, in faith, to supply the needs of the Church.

It is our hope and intention here at bible-truths to free as many as possible from the unscriptural hypnotic tactics of these TV auctioneers who peddle the Word of God like so much merchandise for sordid gain. But what about those small congregations that don’t even want huge cathedrals and the pastor doesn’t want to be rich or drive a $80,000 Mercedes. All they want is to preach the gospel and care for a local congregation and all that that involves. Surely it is not wrong for them to teach their congregation to tithe their salaries to the church, is it? Of course that is wrong. That’s like saying, I don’t want to rob a bank: I just want to take a few small things from the super market without paying for them! IT’S THE SAME CRIME, with the only difference being the amount stolen.
Comment by Mark H. Stevens, Th.D on June 5, 2009 at 7:20pm
For this study I will use the general term "gift" to refer to tongues, although, more specifically, tongues is a "working" or "operation" of the Holy Spirit through the Believer. God determines WHO gets WHAT Gift, Don’t feel bad if you DO NOT speak in tongues it is a GIFT, it doesn’t mean you are LESS Spiritual or even Spirit filled.
In actuality, the spiritual GIFTS of the Spirit are found in Romans 12:4-8. The offices or "administrations" are found in Ephesians 4:10-11. Then the "operations" are found in I Corinthians 12:1-14:40. "Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all" (I Corinthians 12:4-6). To further clarify, in "Now concerning spiritual [gifts], brethren, I would not have you ignorant" (I Corinthians 12:1), the word "gifts" is in italics, indicating that someone added it. Literally, Paul is speaking of "spiritual matters". You should also note that the term "unknown" is not in the original text but can be understood in the context of Scripture.
1. There was one original language upon the earth which probably was Hebrew.
a. God spoke to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat" (Genesis 1:29).
b. After many generations there was only one language. "And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech" (Genesis 11:1).
c. From a study of world history, Hebrew is probably the oldest of all languages.
d. Hebrew is the language of God's chosen people.
e. Hebrew is the language of the Old Testament.
f. I understand that Hebrew is a pure language without curse words.
g. Hebrew also "may be" the language the 1,000 year reign. (Zephaniah 3:9).





2. The first speaking in different languages was at the tower of Babel. There God caused the people to speak in different tongues. "Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech" (Genesis 11:7). The people seemed to be babbling; therefore we get the name "Tower of Babel".
3. The prophecy concerning the tongues of the New Covenant was given by Isaiah. "For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people" (Isaiah 28:11).
a. This was first fulfilled in the book of Acts on the day of Pentecost. "And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance" (Acts 2:4). "... we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God" (Acts 2:11). Please note that the Believers were speaking praise in prayer to God. The others simply overheard the disciples praising God.
b. This was through the work of the Holy Spirit poured out upon the Believers. "Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear" (Acts 2:33).
c. The discussion of the gift of tongues in I Corinthians chapters 12-14 is on the same subject found in Isaiah 28:11. "In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord" (I Corinthians 14:21).
4. What is speaking in tongues?
a. It is speaking in an "unlearned" language. "And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?" (Acts 2:8). "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal" (I Corinthians 13:1).
b. It may sound to some like nonsense. I once worked in a department store where people from different nationalities and languages shopped. When they spoke in their native tongue, it sounded like gibberish to me. I couldn't ever distinguish one word from the other.
(1). "stammering lips" (Isaiah 28:11).
(2). Like "babbling" from which we get the name "tower of babel".
(3). Like someone drunk. "For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day" (Acts 2:15).
c. The people do the speaking. The Holy Spirit will not force anyone to speak or do the speaking for anyone. "And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and [they] began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance" (Acts 2:4). I have added brackets for explanation.

d. The Holy Spirit enables the people to give words. "... as the Spirit gave them utterance" (Acts 2:4).
e. It is a work of the Spirit of God. "But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will" (I Corinthians 12:11).
f. It is the work of the Spirit in our spirits enabling our spirits to pray. "For if I pray in an [unknown] tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful" (I Corinthians 14:14).
g. It is not the work of our minds. "... but my understanding is unfruitful" (I Corinthians 14:14b). "What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also" (I Corinthians 14:15). There is a distinct difference in praying with understanding and praying in the Holy Spirit. The mind must be yielded to the Holy Spirit for one to pray in the Holy Spirit.
h. The mind only controls the when, where, and tone of voice. "If any man speak in an [unknown] tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God" (I Corinthians 14:27-28). We see the principle of individual control also in the gifts of the spirit. "Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith; Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching; Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness" (Romans 12:6-8).
5. What are the PURPOSES for speaking in tongues?
a. The ability to pray in a language different from your own native language. "For he that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries" (I Corinthians 14:2). ""For if I pray in an [unknown] tongue ... " (I Corinthians 14:14a). "... and let him speak to himself, and to God" (I Corinthians 14:28b). Again, note that "prayer" is unto God, not men.
b. The ability to pray when we don't know how to pray for someone or something. "Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God" (Romans 8:26-27). Furthermore, we are praying according to "the will of God".
"And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him" (I John 5:14-15).
c. The ability to sing praises in a language other than our own. "... I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also" (I Corinthians 14:15). "Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?" (I Corinthians 14:16).
d. Speaking in tongues is the one work of the Spirit in the Believer for self-edification. "He that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church" (I Corinthians 14:4). "But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost" (Jude 1:20).
e. Speaking in tongues may also edify the church body when properly used. *** Read I Corinthians 12:11-17). "I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying" (I Corinthians 14:5). "Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual [gifts], seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church. Wherefore let him that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue pray that he may interpret" (I Corinthians 14:12-13).
f. Speaking in tongues is a sign for the unbeliever. "Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe" (I Corinthians 14:22). A sign is a supernatural activity to encourage a belief. "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues" (Mark 16:17).
g. Tongues may also be used as a weapon in spiritual warfare. Since tongues is a means of praising God it is a strong weapon against the dark clouds of depression, doubt, and fear. "... we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God" (Acts 2:11). "Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand; To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people; To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron; To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD" (Psalms 149:6-9).
6. When shall tongues cease?
a. When Jesus comes, perfection comes. "But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away" (I Corinthians 13:10).
b. Please note that the word "perfect" implies "perfection" and is never used in the New Testament to describe Scripture as some have suggested. Instead, we only see a reflection and not the exact picture through the Word now. The Word, though complete, is like a mirror. "For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was" (James 1:23-24).
c. Look at the "now" and "then" when Jesus comes. Paul declares "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known" (I Corinthians 13:12). "But then" refers to when Jesus returns. When we met with Jesus in his return, indeed, we won't have need to speak in tongues or to prophesy. However, until then, there is a need for both.
d. We will see clearly when Jesus comes. "Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is" (I John 3:2).
7. Here are some general observations.
a. We are not to be ignorant concerning tongues. "Now concerning spiritual [gifts], brethren, I would not have you ignorant" (I Corinthians 12:1).
b. Tongues may be considered one of the least of the spiritual gifts. "And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues" (I Corinthians 12:28). Is any grace from God insignificant?
c. Furthermore, God has given more honor to it. "For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked" (I Corinthians 12:24).
d. It is to be used in a spirit of love. "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal" (I Corinthians 13:1). One should not pray offensively before other Believers who do not understand or believe in the working of tongues. "Abstain from all appearance of evil" (I Thessalonians 5:22).
e. Paul practiced speaking in tongues more than anyone. "I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all" (I Corinthians 14:18).
f. Paul said that one should desire to have the gift of tongues. "Follow after charity, and desire spiritual [gifts], but rather that ye may prophesy" (I Corinthians 14:1).
g. Paul's desire was that everyone speak in tongues. "I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying" (I Corinthians 14:5).
h. Paul gave some specific regulations for the use of tongues in public worship.
(1). There must be someone to interpret. "If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad? .... If any man speak in an [unknown] tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God" (I Corinthians 14:23-28).
(2) Only two or three are to speak. "If any man speak in an [unknown] tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret" (I Corinthians 14:27).
(3). This is to be done in order (one at a time). "If any man speak in an [unknown] tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret" (I Corinthians 14:27). Again, Paul emphasizes, "Let all things be done decently and in order" (I Corinthians 14:40).
(4). Tongues should be used in the church to edify the body. "... Let all things be done unto edifying" (I Corinthians 14:26).
(5) (Special note) Prophecy should be judged. "Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge" (I Corinthians 14:29). Although prophecy and tongues are different (prophecy is from God to the people, where tongues is praying to God), I also believe that tongues should be judged as well.
i. As with many other things in the spiritual life, Satan can counterfeit the work of the Holy Spirit in speaking in tongues. I personally have seen someone under the control of a demonic spirit "speak in tongues"; therefore, the manifestation was not of God. Remember that the magicians of Egypt threw down their rods and they became serpents similar to that of Arron's rod. "For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods" (Exodus 7:12). However for there to be a counterfeit, there also must be the real thing.
j. Paul warned not to forbid the speaking in tongues! "Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues" (I Corinthians 14:39).
k. Did Jesus, our example, pray in tongues? There are at least two passages which seem to indicate so. "When Jesus therefore saw her weeping, and the Jews also weeping which came with her, he groaned in the spirit, and was troubled" (John 11:33). "Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave. It was a cave, and a stone lay upon it" (John 11:38). Compare these to Romans 8:26. "Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered" (Romans 8:26).
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