I DEFY ANYONE TO SHOW ME “IN THE WORD” OR EVEN “IN YOUR BIBLE” WHERE ELOHIM CHANGED HIS MIND ABOUT THE NAME OF HIS SON! DO THAT AND I WILL REPENT! UNTIL THEN, JESUS DOES NOT EXIST AND CHRISTIANITY IS

One of my mentors believes in jesus. This man is one of the foremost biblical scholars in the world. Yet he cannot bring himself to accept that THERE IS ONLY ONE SON OF YAH! THAT YAHWEH HAS GIVEN YAHUSHUA A NAME THAT IS ABOVE (NOT EQUAL TO) EVERY NAME, AND THAT THERE IS NONE OTHER NAME UNDER HEAVEN OTHER THAN YAHUSHUA BY WHICH WE SHALL BE SAVED!

He, along with another such well studied, shall we say Xtians, yet remain mentors in a way as they know so much about the bible, BUT HOW MUCH DO THEY KNOW OF THE WORD?

I DEFY ANYONE TO SHOW ME “IN THE WORD” OR EVEN “IN YOUR BIBLE” WHERE ELOHIM CHANGED HIS MIND ABOUT THE NAME OF HIS SON including these two well learned, degreed and educated men!

Philippians 3:4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I no more:
:5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, [of] the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Messiah.
8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things [but] loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Messiah Yahushua my Yahvah: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them [but] dung, that I may win The Messiah,

I have a few degrees myself but I have learned that COMPARED TO THE REVELATION OF THE RUACH IN HA MASHIACH YAHUSHUA, THOSE DEGREES AND THE EDUCATION THEY REPRESENT ARE WORTHLESS!

Even so that same education that both I and my mentors share CONCLUSIVELY DOCUMENT THAT THE NAME JESUS DID NOT SHOW UP UNTIL THE 4TH CENTURY! Long, long, long after Yahweh told the angel Gabriel what the NAME of His Son was to be! YAHUSHUA/YAHSHUA!

SO WHEN DID YAHWEH CHANGE HIS MIND? I defy anyone TO INCLUDE MY MENTORS to show me in the Word OR THE BIBLE where Yahweh changed his mind to ADD OR CHANGE the NAME of His Son to jesus.

In the meantime I will show all IN THE WORD AND THE BIBLE where Yahushua WARN US AND PROPHESIED ABOUT JESUS!


John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

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Yes Jaja it is a choice, a choice that we all have a choice that God gives us, a choice to be dependant on Him or to be independant of Him so why don't you allow everyone to make the choice without force. God has laid down and set before us life and death and He has also shown us which choice He prefers us to choose, which choice He does not want us to make but even with all that even with knowing what He wants from us He informs us but still He gives us to be free to make the choice withour brow beating u.

Is that so hard for you to understand, do you not understand that love maketh a far better way that what you are spilling.  God represent love, never does He represent hate, God represent life never does He represent death, God represent freedom never does He represent force.

And when we decide to operate in the things, in the way of God in His attributes instead of in the attribute of satan then victory will come because Gods way is desifgn to have success always.

He does not need a whipper because satan has already taken on that role, if you are for Hi operate only in the attributes that is His and worry about the things that really matters.  Teach people how to hear His voice, teach His words because you were a good teacher before you deviated to every wind of doctrine, let people hear the voice of God through His words and once they are able to do that then God will speak to them of what is acceptable and what is not. What good is it if you are telling people what you are hearing and they cant hear it Jaja got is a personal God and once someone is close enough they will begin to hear from Him, but what you are doing is putting up a wall you are shutting them off from God letting them place a wall between them and god so they will not be able to hear Him.

What you had, place you as a hign target for satan, you were too valuable in the Kingdom and so that brought you to notice then you place yourself right in his path by chasing every wind of doctrine. Allowing satan to glee with joy knowning you were unfullfilled because there was something in your life that you wanted more than anything else and now you began to wander off the God's path Jaja think about it. I have seen you change from one person into another and the latter believe is not greater than the first therfore it cannot be God led, because with God His promise is for greater and better not for worst.

Angela

Jaja, you are doing research and in your quest for truth you are looking and studying other books whether they be science, archeology, history or other version of Scriptures, videos, books, written by a created being just like you and me.  Can you explain why you believe you believe these created beings had a monopoly on the heart of God, on the mindset of God, why is it you so easily accept what these created being state to be the absolutely and infallible truth of God. Jaja try and explain why is it not possible that you are being used by the anti christ to accomplish Daniel 7:25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time. 

You see my concern is we are so near to the end time so near to Christ returning and what I see is the fulfillment of Scripture the period in which even some of the elect will be led to believe all the changes of the evil man, the one who attempts to change the Scriptures so that he himself is worship. 

You see Jaja don't you my concern and the concern of many is this new thought process of yours is seeping through near the end at the times that the Scriptures warning us of this very same thing happening.  When I look around I can see the fulfillment of Scripture coming to pass and you stand there and expect me and countless others to ignore the things that we are witnessing being fulfilled by the very Scripture that you are attempting to change the whole ethos of. It frankly don't make sense because the Scriptures I know has not proven wrong in fact it is playing out in front of my very eyes and even to the fact that right at this precise time even now there are anti christ spirits amongst us, so come now how will you convince me that you are not one of them spirit that are at this moment on earth after all you are trying to convince me that the Scriptures which is unfolding in front of my eyes is a lie and you want me to believe the newfound information that you Jaja claim is truth but you cannot proof the truth of it to me.


 

 

You already know that he was born Yahushua at birth and you have no scripture to show where Yahweh changed his mind even in the contaminated bibles you use. THAT ALONE IS WHY YOU SHOULD MORE THAN CONSIDER IT. Then you should do what you have always been know for doing! STUDY FOR YOURSELF!

When I first encountered this truth I spent months researching TRYIN TO MAKE IT NOT BE SO! I was just like you. But the more I studied the worse it got. And now the Ruach has shown me in the word that JESUS IS A FAKE!

In the meantime check out this!

The SO-CALLED "English" name, Jesus

The Norman invasion of 1066 introduced the letter "j" to England but the sound of the letter did not exist in the Old English language until the early 1200's. Over the next 300 years the hard "J" sound started to replace male names that began with I or Y because it sounded so masculine. Names like Iames became "James," Iakob became Jacob, and Yohan became "John." During the time the letter J was starting to gain acceptance, John Wycliffe became the first person to translate the New Testament from Latin into English in 1384. He preserved the Latin spelling and pronunciation of IESUS but his translation was unread by the common man because only a few hand-written copies of his Bible were produced which were quickly banned by the Church.

The KJV was legally the only "authorized" version allowed in England, and was produced to stamp out the Geneva translation (The Geneva "Bible" contained many footnotes, reference helps, and conveyed a high level of general information for people to learn).

When Gutenburg invented the printing press the Latin Vulgate "Bible" became the first book ever printed in 1455. The first printed bible in a foreign tongue was the German Mentel Bible of 1466 followed by the Martin Luther bible of 1522.
After William Tyndale was denied permission to print an English bible he went to visit Martin Luther and completed his translation of the New Testament in 1525. Tyndale had 18,000 copies printed at Worms and smuggled into England of which only two copies survive. After printing his revised edition of 1534 he was captured in Belgium, tried for heresy by order of the pope, and put to death in 1536 by strangulation after which his body was burned at the stake.

By the year 1611 the letter "J" was officially part of the English language and the King James Bible was printed along with pronunciation guides for all proper names like Jesus, Jew, Jeremiah, Jerusalem, Judah, and John. The name "Jesus" has been in use ever since.

At Acts 4:12, we learn that there is only ONE NAME under heaven, given among men by which we may be saved, yet we see that the true Name has been under constant change over the centuries. Originally, it was spelled yod-hay-uau-shin-ayin.

The true Name of the Mashiach can be proven by deduction; and you should know that we cannot trust the Greek to explain the Hebrew. But, when we see that the Greek text uses the same letters (IESOUS) when referring to the men that translators spell as "Joshua" and "Jesus", then we know these letters refer to not just a similar name, but the same name; the Greek alphabet simply corrupted the Name for us.
We can fix that easily. The Mashiach of Israel certainly never had a Greek name, so let's hunt-down His real, Hebrew Name!

At Hebrews 4 and Acts 7 (Hebrews written by Sha'ul, and Acts by Luke), we discover from the Greek that the Savior's Name is spelled IESOUS. I'm not saying these two men wrote the text in Greek, but the Greek is what we have received. The name "JESUS" isn't even in the original Scriptures - and you can check out the way it looked back in 1599 by clicking on this: 1599 Geneva Translation.
Hebrews 4 and Acts 7 refer to "Joshua" (Yahusha more accurately), using the same Greek letters, IESOUS. Now think very hard; could the successor of Mosheh and the Mashiach of Israel possibly have the same NAME in the original Hebrew? Scholars don't doubt it for a second that they did indeed.

To learn the real name of your Savior, go look at the Hebrew letters for the spelling of "Joshua": yod-hay-uau-shin-ayin (It isn't rocket surgery you know). Both had the Hebrew name: YAHUSHA (spelled twice in the TaNaK as YAHUSHUA). The Greek alphabet cannot transliterate this word, and "Latinizing" the Greek form only makes it freakier. The Name of our Savior contains the Name of our Creator, because He is our Creator, and His Name is His identification (His identity is wrapped-up in His Name.

YAH = "I am" . . . so, Yahusha (or Yahushua) literally means "I am your salvation" as well as "Yah is our salvation". He is the everlasting Father, and El Shaddai (Is. 6:9, Rev. 1).

The Savior is in fact the Being that revealed His Name as Yahuah -- there's no argument there in the least (He is the "Alef and the Tau"). We use the spelling Yahusha or Yahushua because it states the Name and function or role the messenger Gabri'el provided. We find that Scripture records the practice of giving names, and commonly the chosen name will provide a description or attribute of the individual. Because Gabriel included the phrase, "for he shall save his people from their sins", it is obvious that there was a distinctive meaning in the Name carrying the idea of salvation, from the root yasha. Also, the Name chosen aligns with the meaning of the name of the man that brought Israel into the promised land (called Joshua by tradition).

The Greek texts at Hebrews 4 and Acts 7 both indicate the spelling to be identical for both the Mashiach and the successor of Mosheh: IESOUS (in the Greek letters).

Therefore, all we have to do is go to the Hebrew texts, find the spelling of the name of the man that succeeded Mosheh, and we have found the Savior's Name perfectly preserved ~ and based on the texts of Shemoth (Exodus). Logical deduction brings this out. The Name "Yahushua" describes the FUNCTION or ROLE that our Creator has become.

To ignore this function/role, we have to overlook the phrase included by Gabriel when the Name was given:

"But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of (Yahuah) appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Yoseph, you son of David, fear not to take unto you Miryam your wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the (Ruach haQodesh). And she shall bring forth a son, and you shall call His Name (Yahushua): for he shall save (DELIVER) his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of (Yahuah) by the prophet, saying,
'Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel', which being interpreted is, (Eloah) with us.
Then Yoseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of (Yahuah) had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name (Yahusha)." Matt 1:20-25

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God there is no denying That our Saviour Hebrew name is Yeshua we all know that look my given name is Angela but I have always been called Doreen fact is I answer to both and don't mind and so it is an awfull lot of people from the Caribben have been given one name and answer to another. It is all the things you want us to believe read what I have written and answer my concern and it is no point using Scriptures that you claim is corrupt to answer me because Scriptures is either corrupt or the are not, you can't claim only the bits you agree with is corrupt.

Convince why I should not believe you are the anti christ spirit doing what the very Scriptures state would happen. Come now let your spirit speak to my spirit

Even by your own research you know that the name jesus did not exist until the 4th century. But if the name showed up ANTIME AFTER YAHWEH NAMED HIS SON YAHUSHUA, it would be unscriptual and NOT FROM THE MOUTH OF YAHWEH!

Not to mention that YOU CANNOT FIND THE NAME JESUS IN ANY ORIGINAL SCROLL, EPISTLE OR GOSPEL. Do the research.

It is a trick of satan to keep man away from the light. This joker has managed to TURN HIMSELF IN TO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT!

John 19 “And this is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light, for their works were wicked.
20 “For everyone who is practising evil matters hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.
21 “But the one doing the truth comes to the light, so that his works are clearly seen, that they have been wrought in  Elohim.”

The word EVIL in verse 20 is the Greek word phaulos. It means: 1) easy, slight, ordinary, mean, worthless, of no account

Disagreeing with Yahweh makes everything we do OF NO ACCOUNT, which is why this will happen.

Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Master, Master,’ shall enter into the reign of the heavens, but he who is doing the
desire of My Father in the heavens.
22 “Many shall say to Me in that day, ‘Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your
Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?’
23 “And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!’

This is because THEY WILL BE DOING STUFF IN THE WRONG NAME! And who is making all these things happen? Satan. He will grant anything to keep us believing in jesus and away from the light!

He tried to do it to Yahushua and now he's doing it to all mankind!

Matthew 4:8 Again, the devil took Him up on a very high mountain, and showed Him all the reigns of the world, and their esteem,
9 and said to Him, “All these I shall give You if You fall down and worship me.”
10 Then Yahushua said to him, “Go, Satan! For it has been written, ‘You shall worship YHWH your Elohim, and Him alone you shall serve.’ ”

My my my Jaja why are you using the same Scriptures that you claim to be corrupt to answer my question.. Come now scripture is either corrupt ot it is not, so if you believe it has been corrupted then don't use it to lead me to the truth that you claim to have and dont twisted up Scripture to try and justify what you are saying because no where in tScripture that it teach that man was a created being already thousand of years before adam. Now those kind of teaching the ones you are trying to use to destroy the Scriptures the ones you are using to change up Scriptures I need you to explain why I should accept what a ceated being state over what God stated show me and help me to understand where you get your information. I am  hoping you are going to proved to me that you are correct and that you are not just listening to another created being so proved to all of us stubborn Christain why we need to accept you altered Scripture when the Scripture tell us that is one of the tricks the anti christ will use to lead some of the elect into following him.  So I want you to show me why you think it is okay to change Scripture, why you think Scripture is wrong and where or who you are receiving your information from.  

I want to know because if it is God breathe then my spirit should have no problem discerning the truth but first you must tell it all. So come now don't edge around the questions above.

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