UNDERSTANDING WHOM YOU HAVE BELIEVED.

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Comment by Evangelist Johnny J Christen on June 27, 2009 at 11:18pm

What truly gets to me is we have all kinds of church leaders out there today worldwide that have graduated very well known highly respected bible collages & seminary schools and have all kinds of theological degrees hanging on their walls and still have no idea just what the scriptures actually teach word for word without compromising them in one way or another.

If you ask them to explain the Roman Catholic Trinity or the {first second and third order of the Godhead} which they preach from behind there own pulpits they cannot pull out one single scripture to defend this unbiblical teaching or belief without many other scriptures totally contradicting them.

Now when you plainly ask who is Jesus/Yeshua God himself or the son of God no one can answer!!! Why is this? Either we know what we believe and are willing to die for it or we do not, it’s as simple as that, I hate silence it shows lack a of knowledge. In which the people of Elohim are destroyed because of point blank. We need to become mature in our belief and faith, not lacking wisdom and understanding.

Yours in Messiah
PJ

Comment by Evangelist Johnny J Christen on June 27, 2009 at 4:32am

I have a question brother Yarde

As an Apostle do you see Jesus Christ/Yeshua the Messiah as God/Elohim himself or the son of God/Elohim in which God/Elohim dwelt in?

This is the subject of this room!

Quote-we are going to go deep like Paul in Colosians, to expound on this subject, {who is Jesus}?.

So my question to you is who is Jesus/Yeshua to you? The son of God or God almighty himself?

Yours in Messiah
PJ

Comment by Apostle Anthony Yarde on June 26, 2009 at 5:04pm

Dr. Anthony A. Yarde TEACHING.

SUBSTITUTES FOR GOD:

Every time believers move away from God, they put substitutes in His place.

A major tragedy of the Christian community is that we are filled with substitutes that we have chosen to replace God.

We used to turn to Him, now we turn to someone or something else (Deut. 8:11-17).

Deut. 8:11-14, 17 AMP:

Ask yourself, “Is anything causing me to forget God?” (Luke 12:15 NIV):

Substitutes for God’s Presence:

1. We place our trust in methods, programmes or people to accomplish spiritual growth and church growth rather than trusting in God.

2. We substitute emotional hype, pageantry, entertainment or ritual for the reality of His intimate presence in worship.

3. We no longer have a quiet time with God in His Word and in prayer.


Substitutes for God’s Purposes:

1. We conduct baptism and the Lord’s Supper as tradition or ritual when God intended them to be times of public testimony, remembrance of Him, personal examination and renewal of fellowship with Him.

2. We spend much of our time and resources on selfish pleasures and ignore justice for the oppressed or meeting the needs of the poor.

3. We conduct “evangelistic” visits primarily to ask people to come to church for an attendance goal when God wants them to come to Him for redemption.

Substitutes for God’s Ways:

1. We walk by sight when God says to walk by faith.

2. We affirm self and give self first consideration when God says to deny self.

3. We exalt self, when God says to humble ourselves.

4. We try to save our lives (hold on to what we have) when God says to lose our lives (give away what we have for the Kingdom’s sake).

5. We try to manipulate people to serve, when God says to pray for Him to call forth labourers.

LET US BE REAL ARE WE SUBSTITUTING HIM FOR OTHER THINGS.

Comment by Evangelist Johnny J Christen on June 26, 2009 at 7:07am

Praise him my Brother

The name of this group is {UNDERSTANDING WHOM YOU HAVE BELIEVED}. I am simple explaining who I believe in and whom I serve by the scriptures, how else we can do so when we are commanded to prove all things and test every spirit by the living word of the most high!

Shalom my Brother
PJ

Comment by Apostle Anthony Yarde on June 26, 2009 at 6:26am

Let us use the group as a blessing to each other. Not for Theology or Doctrine

Comment by Apostle Anthony Yarde on June 26, 2009 at 6:19am

thank you for becoming my friend.I just stop by to let you know that even when no one seem to be cheering you on, remember that the angels of the Lord will be in the grandstands cheering you on and those of us who are praying for you will be there in the realm of the spirit with our prayers pushing along with you.
Please remember that everything that you can see is subject to change. God will not put more on you than you can bear. Keep your chin up, God has everything in control. His plans for you are for good and not evil. Be encouraged.Be strong in the Lord.

Comment by Evangelist Johnny J Christen on June 26, 2009 at 6:12am

The Scroll and the Lamb

1[[[Then I saw in the right hand of him who sat on the throne a scroll]]] with writing on both sides and sealed with seven seals. 2And I saw a mighty angel proclaiming in a loud voice, "Who is worthy to break the seals and open the scroll?" 3But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it. 4I wept and wept because no one was found who was worthy to open the scroll or look inside.

5{{{Then one of the elders said to me, "Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals}}}."

6{{{Then I saw a Lamb}}}, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. He had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth.

7{{{He came and took the scroll from the right hand of him who sat on the throne}}}.

8And when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. 9And they sang a new song:
"{{{You are worthy to take the scroll
and to open its seals,
because you were slain}}},
{{{and with your blood you purchased men for God}}}
from every tribe and language and people and nation.
10You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God,
and they will reign on the earth."

11Then I looked and heard the voice of many angels, numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand. They encircled the throne and the living creatures and the elders. 12In a loud voice they sang:
"{{{Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain}}},
to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength
and honor and glory and praise!"

13Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, singing:
"{{{To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb}}}
be praise and honor and glory and power,
for ever and ever!" 14The four living creatures said, "Amen," and the elders fell down and worshiped.

Question-who was he that was sitting in the thrown with the scroll in his hand in the first place? Was it not Elohim himself?


Peace in Messiah
PJ

Comment by Evangelist Johnny J Christen on June 26, 2009 at 5:52am

Why did yeshua have to Waite 30 full powerless years before he was anointed by Elohim in order to start his three and a half year ministry? Did Elohim anoint Elohim?

If Yeshua was Elohim then how could he have possibly been tempted by Satan whom he himself created? The bible is 100% clear that Elohim cannot be tempted by evil!!!

Yeshua said that all power in heaven and earth has been given to him. If yeshua was Elohim himself than he would not need to be given this power for he is Elohim and would already have all this power!!!

Why does yeshua have to go back being subject to that father at the very end 1 Cor 15:22:28

20But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 24Then the end will come, when he {CHRIST} hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25For he {CHRIST}must reign until he {GOD} has put all his enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27For he {GOD} "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include {God himself}, {who put everything under Christ}. 28When he has done this, {{{then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him}}}, so that God may be all in all.
This proves that Yeshua and Elohim are two separate beings=Yeshua is not Elohim!!!

And the list can go on forever, please check out the website I gave.
Yours in Messiah
PJ

Comment by Evangelist Johnny J Christen on June 26, 2009 at 5:03am

Why did yeshua have to Waite 30 full powerless years before he was anointed by Elohim in order to start his three and a half year ministry? Did Elohim anoint Elohim?

If Yeshua was Elohim then how could he have possibly been tempted by Satan whom he himself created? The bible is 100% clear that Elohim cannot be tempted by evil!!!

Yeshua said that all power in heaven and earth has been given to him. If yeshua was Elohim himself than he would not need to be given this power for he is Elohim and would already have all this power!!!

Why does yeshua have to go back being subject to that father at the very end 1 Cor 15:20:28

20But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 24Then the end will come, when he {CHRIST} hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25For he {CHRIST}must reign until he {GOD} has put all his enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27For he {GOD} "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include {God himself}, {who put everything under Christ}. 28When he has done this, {{{then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him}}}, so that God may be all in all.

This proves that Yeshua and Elohim are two separate beings=Yeshua is not Elohim!!!

And the list can go on forever, please check out the website I gave.
Yours in Messiah
PJ

Comment by Evangelist Johnny J Christen on June 26, 2009 at 4:08am

Yeshua is short for Yehoshua (= Joshua), which means YHWH/YHVH is salvation.

I do not follow the teachings of the UPC/PAW oneness although i belonged to both these groups for 11 years, not the way they teach it anyway!!!

Nor do I believe in the manmade doctrine of the trinity birthed out of Roman Catholic councils and creeds between 325AD and 381AD.

Please check out this website called {47 Reasons Why Our Heavenly Father Has No Equals or “Co-Equals}” at
http://www.biblicalunitarian.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=37

This among many other reasons should explain why I am against the Trinity

Be blessed
PJ

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