SHOULD WE KICK HIM WHEN HE IS DOWN???

HOW CAN YOU DOG A HOMELESS PERSON
I HAVE A FRIEND WHO JUST BECAME HOMLELESS AND HE HAS DONE SO MUCH FOR THE CHUIRCH AND OTHERS,,AND NOW HE NEEDS HELP,,,A CHRISTIAN FAMILY TOOK HIM IN AND JUST SO ANYONE CAN SAY THAT HE JUST HANGS AROUND THE HOUSE ,,HE LEAVES 6AM AND RETURNS 6PM LOOKING FOR WORK AND STAYING AWAY ,,SOME DAYS HE IS SO TIRED THAT HE CAN BARELY WALK,,AND HE PROVIDE HIS OWN MEALS SO HE WONT BE A BURDEN ON THE PEOPLE THAT HE WAS STAYING WITH..AFTER A WEEK THE CHRISTIAN FAMILY TOLD HIM TO LEAVE,,HE SAID WHY ,,WHAT DID OR DID'NT I DO??THE HUSBAND REPLIED MY WIFE IS MAKING $70K YR. AND I NOR YOU ARE WORKING AND SHE JUST WANT YOU OUT!!! YOU KNOW HOW WEMAN ARE,,HE LATER ADMITTED THAT HE TOOK $5,500 FROM HIS 401 AND HIS WIFE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT,,THE HOMELESS PERSOPN IS A PREACHER /TEACHER AND CAN PREACH RINGS AROUND THE PASTOR THAT HE WAS STAYING WITH,,AND TRIED TO HELP THE PASTOR BUT HE WONT LISTEN...I ASKED BPN WHEN DO WE STOP ACTING LIKE CHRISTIANS AND START PERFORMING REAL SERMONS AND NOT THE ONES THAT ARE AIR BRUSHED??..WHEN I SAY AIR BRUSHED I MEAN THE PRETTY STUFF THAT EVERYTHING IS SUPPOSED TO BE WITHOUT SACRIFICING AND REAL MINIISTRY,,WWJD JESUS GOT HIS HANDS DIRTY AND WAS HOMELESS AND HELPED THE HOMELESS,,THE BIBLE SAYS BE YE KIND TO STRANGERS ,FOR YOU CAN BE ENTERTAINING ANGELS UNAWARE,,WHEN YOU FEED MY SHEEP YOUR FEEDING ME..I AM HELPING THE BROTHER AS MUCH AS I CAN AND IT IS A SACRIFICE BUT IT IS MINISTRY

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Comment by regi on June 5, 2009 at 8:44pm
It's been a while since I been able to really indulge the teachings, and I'm not really able to fully enjoy the blogs as much due to pressing obligations, but I must comment on this blog. Everything I scanned over is true. The bible verses are on point, but whether we have the full story is another thing. How quick we are to see the so called Christian family as wrong, but I wonder.

Have you noticed how easy it is to rally with those you care about or believe in? When a pastor falls or any leader or so called role model, you have the supporters and the attackers, and everybody has their point of view and argument without having the full story. In this case, it appears that what we know is surface info at best. We have assumed that the wife was against this b/c of her carrying the lion's share of the finances, but what do we really know?

Could per chance she had been against it all alone and her husband convinced her to try? Could the homeless man's staying away as he said he did, if he did, and the fact that he made certain that he was his own meal provider have made her uncomfortable. He could have come across as someone hanging out, he could have come across as someone that doesn't really need, we don't know. So why are we blogging a one sided story?

I use to rent a room to get extra funds to furnish my home the way I wanted to. The young man that I rented it to was referred to me so I took a chance and it was all good. I use to slip bible verses under his door. We spoke about God and I even shared a meal when I did cook. He was a closet alchoholic but also had become my friend. I never disrepected him and as he got to the point of not paying his rent, I knew my concern was real. I confronted him only to learn that he had lost his job and was going out everyday from when I left and back in the evening as if he was working, all along he was drinking.

I prayed with him and was very honest with him. Having been a victim of an alcoholic abusive father and lost my mother to alcohol at age 12, and then my brother, I knew this was not a chore I wanted to take on. I gave him a month to arrange a place to live. Friends, family, whatever, he needed to leave. I didn't try to collect any back rent or even the month I gave. He left with my help to protect his car from being repoed, and other things, but he didn't do better.

I speak of him b/c his brother found me and left a note in my door asking if he and his wife could rent my room b/c they were homeless and knew how kind I was to his brother. I called and asked them to come by. I didn't know this man or his wife, but my heart wanted to help. I sat and spoke with them, but he did all the talking. I said you know 2 women in a kitchen could cause problems, so I want to hear from your wife if you don't mind. She held her head down and was timid, I knew something was wrong, more than shy; she was my age. Eventually, I said, why don't you keep looking, and stay her for a week or 2 to see if it will work. I won't charge you anything, just a place to think.

The whole purpose was that God wanted me to see this man was beating this wife to a pulp. She got a break at my house b/c he was pretending to be this great guy. When he tried to run my house, I let him know that I was not his wife and that he was not the head in my home. I had to ask him and her to leave b/c when I accidently said she could stay during an argument, he cursed me saying I couldn't separate him from her. I looked him dead in the eye and apologized and said to him, you are right. I don't know you, and you don't know me. I meant well, but it ends here. I said, you will not be with this woman long, I guarentee you this. I knew it somehow in my heart.

When I went to the room, b/c I had to call the police to get him out, he was enraged and stupid. I remained calmed the entire time. When the police came I said, my guest just need you to stand him to assure he leaves safely. I didn't want the police to abuse him. The wife whispered and cried to me that he beats her. I held her and said to her, I'm sorry, if she wanted to stay or speak with the police I would help, but she was not willing.

She left this man 2 days later as I knew she would. He came to my job crying asking me how to get her back. I directed him to Christ b/c he needed to learn to be a man and husband, but this was not his wife.

I'm a Christian, I don't do anything that I don't want to do for someone and I don't feel obligated. I work with a small mission and there are places for the homeless, not all bad, but there are places to help. We can't all open our homes to the homeless, particularly when we really don't know the heart or intent of a person. When God wants us to open a door, we know it and when we are obedient to Him he will protect us and accomplish what he wants accomplish. God protects and provides for his children.

My point here is that I don't think there is enough information for this blog to have any real power. Are we bashing instead of building? How many of us have a homeless person living with us? How many are willing to take a man in to live with them, and their family, knowing there could be risk for the safety of their family. Let's see--husband and wife, and man, or husband and wife and another woman--definitely a place were problems can occurr, and let's add children--no way.

Perhaps the pastor wanted to do good, and his wife didn't want it, was not comfortable having another man in the house. We don't know her past. She could have been abused, she could be uncomfortable with the man, and the pastor pushed it and couldn't hold it. Some times we do things out of God's will and take on things we are not called to take on. This could be the case. I know that I help many homeless people. Crack addicts, you name it. I will not let them live with me. I'm honest to say, that even if I was married I would not be comfortable with this arrangement without having God place it in my heart beforehand.

I'm looking for one of Anna's educational bible blogs, I love those. I don't think God will be pleased with the bashing without full knowledge. Let he without sin cast the first stone. Better yet, can anyone speak to heart of another or the true motive or intent of another. Do we discount the intent to help even if it failed? Can we say at least for that week or how ever long, he was in a safe place.

Being this great man of God as you said, perhaps God will open another door and this was not a door that God wanted this man to enter. Just a thought.....

Sis Regi
Comment by Eric Hancock on June 5, 2009 at 10:28am
SO true and it is scary
do you remember the day of Pentacost,the Bible states that after the holyghost takeover they gave according to the peoples need ,,this is NOT mentioned at all anymore only do you have the Holyghost,,,well apparently a lot of people missed it!!!
thankyou for sharing,,your second person from under Bishop Brooks Umbrella,,LOL...

what happen to the CHURCH
Comment by Bishop R.G.Mallory on June 5, 2009 at 10:13am
Benevolence ministry is a Joke and a cloak the pastor can hide behind the bylaw that states how much the benevolence ministry can give.$25 is not even a tank of Gas soo that means its no help at all. Unfortunately the church is the only place we dont take care of our own. there is no severance pay, there is no housin allowance just here and now......
Comment by Eric Hancock on June 5, 2009 at 9:58am
Anna
You have nailed it LOL..you made so much truth and it is all scripture based ,,Always extremely detailed in scripture,,I have to say that..that was the last shovel of dirt on the coffin ..LOL..

And your right as well Rev. Luckette it was never in them,,
Might I add that you cannot pick your role in the ministry,,everybody wants the pulpit job,but needless to know that Yahshua/Jesus was homeless when his ministry started !!Never here TV Preachers admit it but it is true..only 25% of his ministry was done in the temple..research it yourself,,then why is it that real leaders are afraid of field ministry or don't want to do it ..I agree the test was real ministry and they both failed
Comment by Anna on June 5, 2009 at 8:59am
Shouldn't a women who love Yah attempt to be like the Proverbial woman of Proverbs 31?

Prov. 31:20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.

How much more shouldn't a "pastors wife" be the example for other women in the congregration.to stretch out her hands to the "poor".

This pastor and his wife are a prime example of those in ministry who were not "sent" they just "went"!
That
Comment by Anna on June 5, 2009 at 8:50am
Blessings on those who serve the poor


Prov. 22:9 He who is generous will be blessed, for he gives some of his food to the poor.

Jer. 22:16 "Did not your father eat and drink, and do justice and righteousness? Then it was well with him. He pled the cause of the afflicted and needy; then it was well. Is that not what it means to know Me?" declares the LORD.

Deut. 15:10. You shall give generously to [your poor brother], and your heart shall not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the LORD your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings.

Prov. 19:17. He who is gracious to a poor man lends to the LORD, and He will repay him for his good deed.

Jer. 7:5-7. "For, if you truly amend your ways and your deeds, if you truly practice justice between a man and his neighbor, if you do not oppress the alien, the orphan, and the widow, and do not shed innocent blood in this place, nor walk after other gods to your own ruin, then I will let you dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers forever and ever."

Is. 58:10. "And if you give yourself to the hungry, and satisfy the desire of the afflicted, then your light will rise in darkness, and your gloom will become like midday. And the LORD will continually guide you, and satisfy your desire in scorched places, and give strength to your bones; and you will be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water whose waters do not fail."

Luke 14:12-14. "When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, lest they also invite you in return, and repayment come to you. But when you give a reception, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, since they do not have the means to repay you; for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous."

Luke 12:44. "Sell your possessions and give alms; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Mt. 19:20ff. The young man said to Him, "All these commands I have kept; what am I still lacking?" Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."
Comment by Anna on June 5, 2009 at 8:47am
Yah's commands concerning the poor

Deut. 15:7. If there is a poor man among you, one of your brothers, in any of the towns of the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand to your poor brother; but you shall freely open your hand to him, and generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks.

Deut. 26:12. When you have finished paying the complete tithe of your increase in the third year, the year of tithing, then you shall give it to the Levite, to the stranger, to the orphan and the widow, that they may eat in your towns, and be satisfied.

Lev. 19:19ff. Now when you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap to the very corners of your field, neither shall you gather the gleanings of your harvest. Nor shall you glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather the fallen fruit of your vineyard; you shall leave them for the needy and for the stranger. I am the LORD your God.

Prov. 31:8ff. [Commandment to kings.] Open your mouth for the dumb, for the rights of all the unfortunate. Open your mouth, judge righteously, and defend the rights of the afflicted and needy.

Is. 58:66ff. Is this not the fast which I choose, to loosen the bonds of wickedness, to undo the bands of the yoke, and to let the oppressed go free, and break every yoke? Is it not to divide your bread with the hungry, and *****bring the homeless poor into the house*****; when you see the naked, to cover him, and not to hide yourself from your own flesh?

Jer. 22:3. Do justice and righteousness, and deliver the one who has been robbed from the power of his oppressor. Also do not mistreat or do violence to the stranger, the orphan, or the widow; and do not shed innocent blood in this place.

Luke 12:33. "Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys."

Luke 3:11. And [John the Baptist] would answer and say to them, "Let the man with two tunics share with him who has none, and let him who has food do likewise."

Mt. 5:42. Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you.
Comment by Anna on June 5, 2009 at 8:17am
Matthew 25:35-45

35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’
41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
44 “Then they also will answer Him,[a] saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘

Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as *you did not do it* to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’


The reward for people such as this pastor and his wife are already written in the BOOK.....
Comment by Eric Hancock on June 4, 2009 at 5:55pm
He knows and said thanks
Comment by Tara Robinson on June 4, 2009 at 5:52pm
It sounds like the pastor listened to the advice of his wife and we know what happen when Abraham listened to his wife OK. But then that's a whole other story anyway where is the fear of Yah in this situation to not obey his word and kick a man when he is down is awful and rude.

I guess they forgot where Yah brought them from how he saved their life. It's sad to see a man down but much worse when his family in the church won't help where is the ministry of helps. Is this what the church has come to money , money all about money and Yah isn't apart of greed he said money is the root of all evil.

Eric you tell my brother to hold his head up high and know this is his test but it's Yah battle and know we all have his back and i pray that he will endure and be strong. Tell him not to worry have faith beyond what he can see Yah said he will never leave or forsake him and if he provides for the birds, tree, and animals then he will provide for him.

My heart is so broken to know he needs support and love and instead gets treated like a dog. Thank you Eric for seeing about him I may not know him personally but my bible teaches to weep and rejoice with one another and what affects him affects me . That is our brother and I am encouraged my Yah will see about him.

We are all having hard times if we don't see about each other who will not the devil his goal is to steal ,kill and destroy and he will use whom ever that yield their self to it. You can't get mad at the pastor and his wife because they just expressed what was already in them remember the bible says the heart is desperately wicked so what would you expect they are double minded people unstable in all there ways.

Yah knows how to deal with people like that and for anyone else who is aware of his situation and has it to help him and don't Yah will deal with them too the bottom line they will reap what they sowed. Eric tell him I am praying for him and I got his back.

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