SHOULD WE STILL BE OBLIGATED AS TO OBEY A LAW TO TITHE?

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

Dear sister A. D. Belfor,

You are right when you assert that Abraham gave 10% to Melchizadek.

Of course, he gave it by faith out of honor and not by law.

Let us consider Galatians chapter 3: 1-29.

The law was introduced 430 years later(after Abraham). Abraham did not live according the law . He gave the tithe by faith.

However, what do you mean when you say this :"...you don't hear of Abraham tithing in that manner again"?

What do you mean?

Dear sister, "Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case"

No one can set aside or add the the convenant duly establised before the introduction of the law 430 years later.

No one!

The law introduced 430 years later can never set aside or add the the convenant duly establised in the times of Abraham.

Never!

Dear sister, are you a daughter of Abraham?

If yes, then do as Abraham did.

Please, give the tithe by faith.

This is not a foreshadow of things to come in the priesthood, but a duly establised convenant before the introduction of the law 430 years later.

No one can set aside or add to that convenant. It is still in force today!

We give the tithe by faith and not according to the the law which was added because of transgressions 430 years later.

I hope this can help!

Blessings,

Bro. Germain

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[N'ZI Amani Germain]

Dear brother Russell Kelly,

You said:

"Hebrews 7:12 and 7:18 says that the tithing law of Hebrews 7:5 was ANULLED. Why don't you believe God's New Covenant Word?"

I know that the tithing law prescribed in the Old Testament and the Aaronic priesthood have been abolished.

I know it!

I do not live according to the Law of Moses (Acts 15:1-29).

The born again believers live under the grace. They are saved by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8).

I know it!

Yes, I know that the tithing law prescribed in the Old Testament and the Aaronic priesthood have been abolished.

However, I wish you would explain me the following biblical passage:

“Brothers, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case. The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ. What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise”.

Galatians 3:15-17

Moreover, you said:

“The HISTORICAL Melchisedec was only such "by interpretation." Jesus' priesthood is based on eternal principles per Hebrews 7:11-19”.

According to you, “Abraham gave the tithe of the spoils of war from outside the Holy Land, to the priest-king in obedience to common Canaanite tradition”.

Who was Melchisedec to whom Abraham gave the tithe?

Who was Melchisedec to whom Levi himself gave the tithe through Abraham (Hebrews 7: 9-10)?

Can you explain me the following verse?

“And without doubt the lesser person is blessed by the greater. In the one case, the tenth is collected by men who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living”.

Hebrews 7:7-8


1- "THE TENTH IS COLLECTED BY MEN WHO DIE"

2- "BUT IN THE OTHER CASE, BY HIM WHO IS DECLARED TO BE LIVING"

Now, tell me, who were the deadly men who collect the tenth?

And, who is the One who is declared to be living who also collects the tenth?

“This man, however, did not trace his descent from Levi, yet he collected a tenth from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises”.

Hebrews 7:6

Who is the one who is declared to be living to whom Levi himself gave the tenth through Abraham?

“Just think how great he was: Even the patriarch Abraham gave him a tenth of the plunder!”

Hebrews 7:4

Who was Melchisedec?

Was He a gentile priest-king?

Can a gentile priest-king be the King of righteousness?

Can a gentile priest-king be the King of peace?

Who was that KING without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of God he remains a priest forever (Hebrews 7:1-3)?

Please, explain me Hebrews 7:7- 8!

You assert that Abraham gave the tithe of the spoils of war from outside the Holy Land, to the priest-king in obedience to common Canaanite tradition.

Did Abraham obey Canaanite tradition?

Brother, please read the following biblical passages so that you can acknowledge better who was Abraham.

Romans 4:9-18; Galatians 3:28-29; Hebrews 11:8-10...

Indeed, the Bible declares:

“Abraham was now old and well advanced in years, and the LORD had blessed him in every way. He said to the chief servant in his household, the one in charge of all that he had, "Put your hand under my thigh. I want you to swear by the LORD, the God of heaven and the God of earth, that you will not get a wife for my son from the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I am living, but will go to my country and my own relatives and get a wife for my son Isaac." The servant asked him, "What if the woman is unwilling to come back with me to this land? Shall I then take your son back to the country you came from?"

Genesis 24:1-5

Indeed, Abraham said: “you will not get a wife for my son from the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I am living, but will go to my country and my own relatives and get a wife for my son Isaac”

Abraham could never obey common Canaanite tradition and at the same time prevent his servant from getting a wife for his son from the daughters of the Canaanites among whom he was living?


Who was Melchisedec(Psalm 110:4, Heb 5:10, 6:20, 7:1-28)?

Who was Melchisedec WHO BLESSED ABRAHAM?

Who was Melchisedec to whom Abraham gave the tithe?


I’m waiting for your BIBLICAL ANSWER(not your opinion).

Blessings,

Bro. Germain

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[N'ZI Amani Germain]

sister Altha Fugett,

Youy said:

"without compulsion or obligation " these are the key words in your question. when we become a "cheerful giver" things fall in line for us".

Let me tell you that Tithe is not for a man.

Tithe is not for a Pastor.

Dear sister, are you a daughter of Abraham?

If yes, then do as Abraham did.

Please, give the tithe by faith to MELCHISEDEC .

Please, give the tithe by faith to JESUS-CHRIST .

DO NOT ASK YOURSELF IF YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO DO SO.

Abraham and Jacob didn't ask questions!

If, it seems an obligation to you, then do not do it.

Please, tell me, are you obliged to serve God?

Are you obliged to be grateful to God as Abraham and Jacob?

Are you obliged to serve God and honour Him with your body and whatever you have?

Indeed Jacob said:

"If God will be with me and will watch over me on this journey I am taking and will give me food to eat and clothes to wear 21 so that I return safely to my father's house, then the LORD [a] will be my God 22 and this stone that I have set up as a pillar will be God's house, and of all that you give me I will give you a tenth."

Genesis 28:20-22

This has nothing to do with the Levitical priesthood (Lev. 27:30-32, Numbers 18:21-24).

This has nothing to do with the tithing law prescribed in the Old Testament.

Please do not make confusion!

This is not a law or a new doctrine.

It is simply a question of gratefulness.

The born again believer gives the tithe because he loves the Lord and because of what Christ has done for him.

We don't give the tithe to be saved. We give it because we are saved, and because we want others to be saved.

Abraham and Jacob didn't live according to the Law of Moses (Galatians 3:15-17 ).

They gave their tithe to God(Jesus Christ) freely, by faith.

Tithe is given to the Church, and Jesus is the head of the Church.

The tithe should supply(support) the needs of all the Church, all the believers and the servants of God.

Jesus is the Almighty God, the Melchizedek to whom Abraham gave the Tithe.

Jesus is the Almighty God, the Melchizedek to whom Jacob gave the Tithe.

They gave their tithe freely (by faith) to JESUS-CHRIST.

Jesus is the same yesterday and today and forever (Hebrews 13:8)!

Indeed, Jesus said:

“Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad."

"You are not yet fifty years old," the Jews said to him, "and you have seen Abraham!"

"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"

John 8:556-58

As Abraham's seed, as a son of Abraham I do what Abraham did, by faith.

The Tithe is not necessarily money.

Please, read my blog post entitled "SHOULD A PASTOR THAT SPENDS MOST OF HIS TIME PREACHING
AND TEACHING GET PAID FOR WHAT GOD HAS HIM TO DO?"

I'm not preaching money.

Indeed, Jacob said: "all that you give me I will give you a tenth."

ALL THAT YOU GIVE ME I WILL GIVE YOU A TENTH.

Abraham gave him a tenth of everything.

A TENTH OF EVERYTHING.

I’m not speaking about the law of Moses.

I’m not speaking about the tithes prescribed according to the Levitical priesthood.

But I’m referring to the tithe given by faith.

As a Son of Abraham, I’m talking about the faith and the deeds of Abraham.

TITHING IS NOT A LAW FOR CHRISTIANS,

TITHING IS NOT A LAW FOR ABRAHAM’S SEED,

BUT IT IS AN ACT OF FAITH

The tithe of Abraham and Jacob are not foreshadows of things to come in the priesthood, but a duly establised convenant before the introduction of the law 430 years later(Galatians 3:15-19).

No one can set aside or add to that convenant. It is still in force today!

We give the tithe by faith and not according to the law which was added because of transgressions 430 years later

Brothers and sisters, please,

“Honor the LORD with your wealth, with the firstfruits of all your crops”

Proverbs 3:9

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

Brother James pierce,

You said:

"Torah states that the tithe, which is the produce of agriculture, is to be given to the priests for their inheritance. There is NO other definition for tithing, unless you force your own bias into scripture".

Brother, Please read Galatians 3 and Hebrews 7!

I'm no longer under the supervision of the law of Moses. I live according to the covenant previously established by God in the times of Abraham.

The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God.

I live by faith. Christians are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.

If you I belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heir according to the promise.

Abraham did not live by the Law.

Perfection could not have been attained through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the law was given to the people). That regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless.

Abraham did not give to the tithe to the Levitical priests, but, he gave it to Melchizedek.

Do you believe that Jesus has become the guarantee of a better covenant, the new Melchizedek, One who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the basis of the power of an indestructible life.

I give my tithe freely (by faith) to JESUS-CHRIST.

Jesus is the Almighty God, the Melchizedek to whom Abraham gave the Tithe.

As Abraham's seed, as a son of Abraham I do what Abraham did, by faith.

Indeed, the Bible declares:

“One might even say that Levi, who collects the tenth, paid the tenth through Abraham, 10because when Melchizedek met Abraham, Levi was still in the body of his ancestor”.

As you see, through Abraham Levi himself paid the tenth to Melchizedek, namely JESUS CHRIST, the Almighty God.

I give my tithe freely (by faith) to JESUS-CHRIST as Levi himself did through Abraham.

I do not give my tithe to the Levitical Priests.

No, I do not give my tithe to the men who die, but to the One who is declared to be living, namely Jesus-Christ, the new Melchizedek, One who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the basis of the power of an indestructible life. Amen!

"And without doubt the lesser person is blessed by the greater. 8In the one case, the tenth is collected by men who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living".

Hebrews 7:7-8

Tithing is not a foreshadow of things to come in the priesthood, but a duly establised convenant before the introduction of the law 430 years later.

No one can set aside or add to that convenant. It is still in force today!

We give the tithe by faith and not according to the law (Leviticus 27:30-32) which was added because of transgressions 430 years later.

Jacob did not give the tithe to the Levitical priests, but to the Almighty God.

“Then Jacob made a vow, saying, "If God will be with me and will watch over me on this journey I am taking and will give me food to eat and clothes to wear 21 so that I return safely to my father's house, then the LORD [a] will be my God 22 and this stone that I have set up as a pillar will be God's house, and of all that you give me I will give you a tenth."

Genesis 28:20-22

I tithe of my own free will, by faith as Abraham and Jacob did and not by law.

I do not tithe by LAW, for I’m not under the LAW.

May Father Abraham was not under the LAW.

The covenant previously established by God in the times of Abraham is the same covenant according to which true Christians live today.

Indeed, The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God.

This is the reason why If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heir according to the promise.

Now, what is the Biblical verse which shows expressly that we should not tithe anymore?

"And without doubt the lesser person is blessed by the greater. 8In the one case, the tenth is collected by men who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living"

Please, show me!

Do you believe that Jesus Christ is the living God?

Do you believe that Jesus Christ is Melchizedek?

May God enlighten you!

Blessings,

Bro. Germain

www.tagworld.com/srobouay
www.myspace.com/wawesan

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

Dear brother kluzz,

Have I talked about money in my message above?

Did I say that tithing is necessarily money?

Indeed the Bible declares:

"...and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, his name means "king of righteousness"; then also, "king of Salem" means "king of peace."

Do you believe that Tithing was practiced before the law?

I know that perfection could not have been attained through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the law was given to the people).

I also know that the former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless.

Do you believe that Tithing was practiced before the Levitical priesthood which was given to the people on the basis the law ?

Jesus has become the guarantee of a better covenant, the new Melchizedek, One who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the basis of the power of an indestructible life.

Now, what is the Biblical verse which shows expressly that we should not tithe anymore?

Please, show me!

Tithing is not a foreshadow of things to come in the priesthood, but a duly establised convenant before the introduction of the law 430 years later(Galatians).

No one can set aside or add to that convenant. It is still in force today!

We give the tithe by faith and not according to the the law(Leviticus 27:30-32) which was added because of transgressions 430 years later.

I'm waiting for your answer!

Blessings,

Bro. Germain

www.tagworld.com/srobouay
www.myspace.com/wawesan

[Lonnie Kluttz]

Brother Germain,

You really need to study tithting before you teach it.

Tithting has never been money. Tithing was onlyu collected by the Levitacal priest. The bible says you can but back your tithe, you can't by back money. And most importantly, the bible tells you not to tithe anymore. (Hebrews 7: entire chapter). You might what to study something before you teach it.

God Bless