"The land shall become burning pitch Thorns shall grow over its strongholds It shall be the haunt of jackals yea there shall the night hag alight and find for herself a resting place." Isaiah 34. 8-14

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C. Peter Wagner wrote a book entitled "Confronting the Queen of Heaven". I'll bet its still in print. You are right, she is called all those names (Diana, Virgin Mary, etc etc etc). I read the book so long ago, didnt remember the reference to Lillith.
Regarding those who have answered this question. How much time do you spend studing the bible?. It seems as that many of us in the kingdom. Spend more time researching and studing the other books, The Holy Ghost laid it on my heart. How much time and energy have you put in bible study?. Do the other books get more of our time? " just a spiritual thought"
My dear brother one part of studying the Bible is researching the questions that come from one's study of the bible. But if your asking for a time for every sermon I spend up to 10 hours in the text. That's both English and the languages. How about you what is you time in the text?
C. Peter Wagner- a pretty interesting fellow.


Product Description
" Confronting The Queen Of Heaven" takes a look at what is perhaps one of the most powerful spirits in Satan's hierarchy - the Queen of Heaven. In this book, C. Peter Wagner shows both the history and the adaptations that this spirit takes in today's world, and then reveals what we as Christians can do to play a part in confronting the Queen of Heaven and in proclaiming Jesus Christ as Lord.
Pastor Valentine when I first heard the term Queen of Heaven the first place I looked was the bible...I did a bible study (word search) on it. That is typically the FIRST place a student will go...with that said I guess we make the assumption that it is the first place we all who here go to so we take the opportunity to share other sources of information.

But thank you for keepin us on the narrow road. We can be easily detoured in a quest for knowledge.
I new nothing about this, thank you sista' Fugett for making me check it out.

This is what I got online:
Lilith, the first wife of Adam, and other legends. Connected to Akkadian (Sumerian) mythology tenuous from a translation of a verse in Isaiah, which in the King James translation was rendered screech owl (a species of owl). Other translation rendered the text night owl, might monster, night hag, and night creature. A Hebrew tradition exists in which an amulet is inscribed with the names of three angels and placed around the neck of newborn boys in order to protect them from the lilin until their circumcision. This practice lends weight to the argument that Lilith had existed in earlier Hebrew mythology and is not the creation of later medieval authors. There is also a Hebrew tradition to wait a while before a boy's hair is cut so as to attempt to trick Lilith into thinking the child is a girl so that the boy's life may be spared. Lilith's name also appears in a list of demonic creatures in the Dead Sea Scrolls (4Q510 frag. 11.4-6a; frag. 10.1f), in a passage referring to Isaiah 34:14. The word "lilith" appears several times in the Talmud. In Tractate Niddah 24b it refers to a winged human, while in Erubin 100b it refers to something with long hair.

Akkadian Mythology: Lilith has been identified with ki-sikil-lil-la-ke4, a female demon in the Sumerian prologue to the Gilgamesh epic.

Kramer translates:
a dragon had built its nest at the foot of the tree
the Zu-bird was raising its young in the crown,
and the demon Lilith had built her house in the middle.
[...]
Then the Zu-bird flew into the mountains with its young,
while Lilith, petrified with fear, tore down her house and fled into the wilderness
Wolkenstein translates the same passage:

a serpent who could not be charmed made its nest in the roots of the tree,
The Anzu bird set his young in the branches of the tree,
And the dark maid Lilith built her home in the trunk.
The Gilgamesh passage quoted above has in turn been applied by some to the Burney relief (Norman Colville collection), which dates to roughly 1950 BC and is a sculpture of a woman who has bird talons and is flanked by owls. [This connection is one of fantasy rather than logic—jk.]

The key to this identification lies in the bird talons and the owls. While the relief may depict the demon Kisikil-lilla-ke of the Gilgamesh passage or another goddess, identification with Lilitu is more tenuous and likely influenced by the "screech owl" translation of the KJV. A very similar relief dating to roughly the same period is preserved in the Louvre

The Britannica writes of Lilith:

female demon of Jewish folklore; her name and personality are derived from the class of Mesopotamian demons called lilû (feminine: lilitu). In rabbinic literature Lilith is variously depicted as the mother of Adam's demonic offspring following his separation from Eve or as his first wife, who left him because of their incompatibility. Three angels tried in vain to force her return; the evil she threatened, especially against children, was said to be counteracted by the wearing of an amulet bearing the names of the angels. A cult associated with Lilith survived among some Jews as late as the 7th century AD.

Erubin 18b says that after the expulsion from Eden, Adam was separated from Eve for 130 years, during which time the seed he wasted created "ghouls, demons and lilin". I. e. in Talmudic tradition, not Lilith but Adam engendered the lilin, a connection that may be the origin of the later association of Lilith and Adam.

In some passages of the Kabbala, as well as in the 13th century Treatise on the Left Emanation [2], Lilith is the mate of Samael.

In others, probably informed by The Alphabet of Ben Sira, she is Adam's wife (Yalqut Reubeni, Zohar 1:34b, 3:19 [3])

The passage in Genesis 1:27 — "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them" (before describing a mate being made of Adam's rib and being called Eve in Genesis 2:22) is sometimes believed to be an indication that Adam had a wife before Eve.

A medieval reference to Lilith as the first wife of Adam is the anonymous The Alphabet of Ben-Sira, written sometime between the 8th and 11th centuries. Lilith is described as refusing to assume a subservient role to Adam during sexual intercourse and so deserting him ("She said, 'I will not lie below,' and he said, 'I will not lie beneath you, but only on top. For you are fit only to be in the bottom position, while I am to be the superior one.'"). Lilith promptly uttered the name of God, took to the air, and left the Garden, settling on the Red Sea coast. As a side note, this places Lilith in a unique position, for she left the Garden of her own accord and before the Fall of Man, and so is untouched by the Tree of Knowledge. However, according to legend, she also knows the "true name of God". The Alphabet of Ben-Sira is the earliest surviving source of the story, and the conception that Lilith was Adam's first wife became only widely known with the 17th century Lexicon Talmudicum of Johannes Buxtorf

The background and purpose of The Alphabet of Ben-Sira is unclear. It is a collection of stories about heroes of the Bible and Talmud, it may have been a collection of folk-tales, a refutation of Christian, Karaite, or other separatist movements; its content seems so offensive to contemporary Jews that it was even suggested that it could be an anti-Jewish satire [4], although, in any case, the text was accepted by the Jewish mystics of medieval Germany.

Lilith then went on to mate with Asmodai and various other demons she found beside the Red Sea, creating countless lilin. Adam urged God to bring Lilith back, so three angels were dispatched after her. When the angels, Senoy, Sansenoy, and Semangelof, made threats to kill one hundred of Lilith's demonic children for each day she stayed away, she countered that she would prey eternally upon the descendants of Adam and Eve, who could be saved only by invoking the names of the three angels. She did not return to Adam.

Thank you again sista' Fugett, I wouldn't have looked it up if you hadn't raised the question.

Yours truly,
Anthony Smith
You are welcome Bro Smith
wow... thanks for sharing this its very expansive
I know this discussion was a few months ago. Hope everyone is well.

This past week in my towns major daily newspaper was a FULL PAGE AD taken out for a LILITH concert this summer. Sarah Maclaughlin and Mary J Blidge were headliners. There are also maybe 8 or 10 others celebrity singers to perform.

This is a new one.

I want to see anointed saints of God who DO NOT SEEK TO MAKE merchandise of men put on praise productions that usher folk into the living and tangible presence of God. Only in his presence is there transformation. Oh yea, between worship segments, a few more anointed ones can get up and EXHORT and PROPHESY over the people Gods willingness and readiness to support, protect, bless, heal, defend and deliver them and their children.
Toni, GET OUT OF HERE??? for real? how you doing beautiful sister of mine. A Lilith Concert?? I wonder do they understand the significance of Lilith?

We perish because of the lack of knowledge, that is why I think it is very important to have an understanding of our enemies tactics. satan is not divided in his strategy he don't care how or with what he defeats us.

A lesson the church should learn and take into consideration as well.
hey sister, I'm sorry I've been away from the site for a while. I'll send you my email address in your mailbox so we can stay in touch. But I logged on and saw your response and yes there is a lillith concert, appreantly a tour. The image and marketing language tell it all. Surely someone knows lillith, others are just making money and sharing their gifts i imagine.

"See Lilith on 07/17/10 at First Midwest Bank Amphitheatre in Tinley Park (Chicago), IL. Find Lilith tickets on LiveNation.com: (on google)

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from wikipedia:
"The main stage, September 22, 1998, Great Woods, Mansfield, Massachusetts.Lilith Fair is a concert tour and traveling music festival, founded by Canadian musician Sarah McLachlan, Nettwerk Music Group's Dan Fraser and Terry McBride, and New York talent agent Marty Diamond, which took place during the summers of 1997 to 1999. Its website says that it will return in 2010. It consisted solely of female solo artists and female-led bands. In its 3 years, Lilith Fair raised over $10M for women's charities throughout North America".

and a dedicated website, with dates, merchandise and anything else
http://www.lilithfaircom/

keep in mind I live outside Chicago. A fwe years back the mayor commissioned artists to create symbolic cows to line up down the magnificent mile. If that wasnt a throwback to the days when Moses was up with God and the people in the valley were worshipping a golden calf. I was downtown the other day and saw a cow. Some they took down but not all.

So, they are rfaising money to benefit women but do ends justify the means
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