I have a question about black preaching style. Some blacks don't like what is traditionally thought of as a "black" preaching style. They say that you can't preach expository sermons with that style of preaching. I don't buy that. Look at Tony Evans.

What would you say to someone who objected to using a "black" style of preaching? How would you defend that style of preaching biblically? What about whites who have a black preaching style? Just some questions.

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Yall so right are there any tips on whooping during the celebration period?
did jesus whoop and holla ---
and then beg 4 --dollas...
did he create a flo to jack and fake and oh so stain the
great of the church...
poachers
This raises an interesting point. What about a praise break? Are we good to go there? Or does "decently and in order mean that we can't have a praise break? I believe that too many word-focused evangelicals aren't open enough to the Spirit and too many pentecostals and charismatics aren't verse ell enough in the scriptures. We need the Word and the Spirit. Someone once said that if we just have the word, we'll dry up; and if we just have the Spirit, we'll blow up; but if we have the word and the Spirit, we'll grow up. I think that's true. But how do we get conservative evangelicals to the point where they're open to the Spirit? And how do we get pentecostals and charismatics to study the word more?
From the testimony of many older saints I've come to realize that a couple of generations ago our pentecostal churches had far more reading and teaching of the Word of God in their assemblies. Any association between Spirit-led and Word-poor is a relatively recent development in the Black Pentecostal circles. So the challenge for Pentecostals is to rediscover how to make scripture central to the worship service again. The simple truth is that many Pentecostal churches have suffered membership drain whether to denominational churches (like the African Methodist Episcopal) or to non-denominational churches that have vigorous teaching ministries. I've heard many pastors speak disparagingly and defensively about the members they've lost, but I think they failed to realize that folks who are growing spiritually hunger for more than "three points and a praise break."

Still, I would wonder how anyone raised in the worshipful freedom of the Pentecostal movement would ever really be comfortable with the thrifty little spoonfuls of worship allowed in some evangelical services. Their meetings can be so tightly wound--so micromanaged--that they end up seeming sterile and ultimately joyless in comparison.

There has got to be a middle way, capturing the best of the Word-focused and Spirit-focused worship experiences.
nice tarman---one point and lets see the responses...
altho the fallacy of ur projected logic falters...on this final note...
the word is the spirit thus the spririt in the church now is not the spririt of the word---
we a fool can get up and speak an hour and never touch a bible ---its his spirit and not the spirit of word that feels the church ...
There is a middle ground. The Vineyard is the closest thing I've found. I think in terms of black preachers though, one of the few preachers that I can think of that emphasizes the word and the Spirit is Tony Evans. I'm sure that there are more. To some extent Kenneth Ulmer would fit that category. Although, I disagree with him speaking in tongues with no interpretation. Eric Mason is part of Mark Driscoll's Acts 29 Network, so by default he should be a reformed charismatic, but it seems that he wears his seatbelt pretty tight. I happen to be white, something that I haven't mentioned until now. I didn't know quite how everyone would take that, but I think that I have something of a black preaching style. I listen to a lot of black preaching as I said. And when I first became a bleiever I listened to white guys that had a black preaching style like Rod Parsley, Dennis Leonard, and Clint Brown.
name a black preacher or white preacher from the south eastern usa precivil war...
what reiligion did abe lincoln adhere to
what about jefferson davis or andrew jackson...
what was being preached in saint augustine florida in 1750 before there was every any english church south of the mason dixon line...

u see people who profess to understand america reiligion and the style thereof...yet have no understandn of the southern preacher and his doctrine then u fail to understand the very essence of america reiligion---southern reiligion in this land predates english reilgion and southern reiligion is predated by native american reilgion...
this is first and foremost a native american land---then a spainishmoor feach creo---hebrew land---then a english land---the english always comes last that is the general rule of thumbs in euro society...
the english needs his refined accent and pounds or else hes nothing...
the german can stand on his own two feet with or without the help of his follow tribes man---not so with the brit....
there to understand american styles of preaching and possess an immature mindset in so far as the stlye of preaching is the crux...
this is y the most learned and universal minded of people whom adhere to some form of organic thought study the root of matters and not the buds and shouts....
the confederate war was in spirit and soul a war of good and evil---that is simple fact...
asked the oldest sources u trust...
therefore to not know how the preacher andor preist and his style in Jefferson Davis' church is to not understand the spirit that moved upon the land at time...
for instance jefferson davis was not tried as a war criminal? Y it was a holy war that he fought--the same with bush---these are holy men to their people and to their gods...thus the so-called white style and black style is merely a scam---
the average black will never hear the preacher in say a g. bush's or bill clintons church...
most people dont know bill clinton as did most presidents grew up in shacks...with there gods in them...
the eviljello church is just that its a money market created to sophiod off the souls from the southern babptist---cathoic---hebrews and other indigeous southern reiligions...

my point is the average sermon preched in a white exclusive church is not understandable by the average white or black preacher---thus is it style or is it information...
most preach can only preach three or fore subjects---most get stuck in one gear or another and stay stuck on it for life...
all that to say read up on the histroy of say mahala jackson and ask yourself who was her preacher the first 16 years of her life here in the south and u will get an idea---
of style from substance from soul to subsistance and keep in mind the city shes from did not become under slave or jesus domination until 100 years after it was founded...
the confederate war was in spirit and soul a war of good and evil

I agree with this. In fact, I was raised in the south in a white family and even my parents told me they thought the north was right and the south was wrong and that it was about slavery. I have had many whites tell me that the war was not about slavery but states rights. This is bullcrap. It was about states rights to own slaves. Anyone who has studied history knows this. Yet, many white southerners deny it.
this stupid---
first anyone knows any thing about how the first people came from england to america...what and who were prottestant???? the protest bible and pilgrims came to this county because of reiligous oppression by the english crown...
the quaker the amish the james etc...all the colonies were formed---before becoming states---and sought state hood from the english crown...
this state gave them the rights to follow the constitution and laws in the manner their god saw fit...each state was based on reiligion beleif or something...
the state vermont ct mass ny etc...were all founded on a given cause and statement of beliefes which identified that states right to exists with in the context of the euro tribal system...

these state all follow gods did they not?
there fore the southerns states which ended at ga until 1845---had nc sc ga tenn and other southern minded states founded on the principal of their gods of light..the flowers of a state can tell u what gods it was founded on as do the animals and the flags...
all wars are reiligous wars...jefferson davis was a very reiligous young fellow...and masons are to themselves very reiligous and 99 percent of all aryan confederate soilders were mason or the sons of masons...
thus logic is overruled by truth here...
the truth is the spread of the english empire entails the spread of jesusim---
the white did not fit the slaves or for the slave ...the confederates fought to ensure that the gains they had made under the english crown would not be compromised by their brothers up north---the north feared that with andrew jackson robbing the spainish government and empiring the southern USA...that they would eventually have a war...
anyone claiming to know the reason of the civil war has to possess an indepth understand of the seminole wars and ft denuad...
nothing wrong with owning slaves its something wrong with enslaving freemen...
thats what went on in the south the enslaving of free men...the gulf coast did not become a usa possession until 1845 officially...thus the english brand of enlsavement was not an issue in the south as it was in the north...
You make a good point about Tony Evans and Kenneth Ulmer; the late G.E. Patterson also emphasized the Word and the Spirit. And obviously, there are probably many others from the African American church who are not as well known.

Regarding white preachers with a "black" preaching style, have you ever heard Sheryl Brady?
I've heard Sheryl Brady, but I'm a complementarian. That is, I don't believe that women should teach men or have authority over men. I didn't always believe that. I used to listen to Juanita Bynum, Joyce Meyer, and Paula White.

As for Sheryl Brady's message, if it's anything like Juanita Bynum's message, I can't really argue with what she says. Juanita used to recommend Sheryl Brady. I haven't heard too many people preach holiness the way J. Bynum does. I still enjoy listening to her music.

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