Is this how we see our God and satan???Makes you go hmmm...

Why do we fight with the devil? God does not even waste His time with the devil.And satan goes and presents himself with all the other angels in the presence of God(Job 1:6)So why are we teaching or being taught we must bind the strong man??Jesus defeated the devil on calvary..You have four directions of the cross which stands for no way around Him, you have the four seasons,You have height,depth,width and length.He arose from the grave with all power in His hands..He took back the keys of death from satan which he the devil held us captive by... So why do we keep saying the devil is involved in our lives.We are suppossed to be seated in heavenly places with Christ(Ephesians 2:6,) So if that be so how did he the devil find us.If God has you in His secret place.let us think on that It is God's secret ! Why would He "God" let the devil know where you are??? you must have stepped out and played patty cakes with the devil.Amen!!! Stop know your position with God you have been re-gene-rated grafted in to His Holy family... In His Service
By His Grace i run this race
Pastor Robert

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Revelation 12:7  And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8  And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9  And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11  And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12  ¶Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Although the devil could not prevail in heaven, He is still a very real enemy in the earth. Whether we want to be in a warfare or not, We are in a spiritual warfare. Do not be deceived by satans devices. The Bible clearly states that we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers...spiritual wickedness in high places. Our warfare is real. And it is spiritual. Paul admonishes us to garb ourselves with the full armor of God that we might be able to withstand the wiles of the devil. The Bible teaches that the devil takes some captive at his will. Jeus said "satan cometh, but he has no place in me". Did not Jesus also say that we shall cast out devils? But be encouraged my brother. God has given us power over all the power of the enemy. For greater is He that is in us, than he that is in the world.
That secret place you refer to hides our life. Your life is hid with Christ in God. Your life is hid. You're not. If I can see your body, the devil can see your body too. And because your body is dust, he feeds on it. This is why it behooves us to walk after the spirit, so we do not fulfill the lust of the flesh. For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. When Adam and Eve sinned in the garden, God told the man he must labor in the field by the sweat of his brow. He told the woman she must labor and travail in birth and her desire would be to her husband, that the man would rule over her. And to the serpent that old devil who deceiveth the nation he said, "Thou shalt crawl upon thy belly and eat the dust of the earth all of thy days. It was given to the devil to eat dust. Man is made of the dust of the earth. Except he walk after the spirit, the devil will consume him. This is why the carnal mind leads to death. There is a way that seemeth right to a man. but the end thereof is the ways of death. God bless you my dear brother.

Amen!Amen! Amen! to every point that you have made. I need you to understand that Jesus is my attorney in the spiritual warfare.The bible also states that Jesus is standing at the right hand of the Father(Acts 7:56). And then we grow and we find out He made us to sit down in Heavenly places with Him (Eph.2:6).Oh by the way this also Paul writting this.And i ask my brethern that you glance at(Eph.1:17-23) as He gave us all this.and i am not going to deep with this go with me over to(Heb.4:11)in other words Jesus already defeated the devil.My God! My God!we must now walk in that victory (Heb.6:1-6).Why do we claim by His stripes i am healed.Are we walking half the victory or the total one.If we believe that He got up with all power in His hands and we have a work that was wrought in us.Why are we kicking a dead horse so to speak.The book of revelation is the revealing of who God is and whom Jesus was and is still to come.God said He will fight all your battles so why are you trying to fight a spiritual warfare.He said not by power.nor by might ,but by MY Spirit says the Lord...And thank you for the reply at least you had one,and May God continue to move in your life and your ministry Amen!!!
Yes my friend,
Jesus did win the victory for our sakes and have overcome the enemy and even the world. The bible also states that we have overcome the world. What Jesus came and did finished the war, but it did not exempt us from the war. When I was a little boy Pastor Robert, My daddy killed a snake. He took a two-by-four and he struck the snake in the head. Now though the snake was finished, toothless, and harmless, we were still afraid of him, because his body was still animated. He was moving, and spinning, and twisting, and rattling as if he were still alive. And I asked my dad, Why is he not dead? And he answered, He is. You just can't tell it yet. Just give it tme, and it will all be over. So to make sure the snake was dead, my brothers and I got sticks, and beat upon that snake until he was destroyed. Then daddy threw the snake in the fire. Pastor Robert, Jesus has already defeated the devil. We all know this is true. But he is yet animated. He's writhing and twisting, and spinning, and as the children behold the spectacle they cannot help but to wonder, why is it not dead? The enemy is defeated, but he is not destroyed. Jesus defeated him for sure. But his remaining presence still affects the children. And we are going to take up our sticks and beat on him until he is destroyed. And the Lord will cast him in the fire. Now that little story pretty much proved your point. But let me enlighten you further if I may. Jesus said, It is Finisihed. He did what He came to do. Then He rose saying all power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Then he gave power unto men. I really did't want to go here. A day is as a thousand years, and a thousand year as a day with the Lord. God isn't trapped in a box called time, as are we. In order to understand this warfare, you must think outide the box, where time is not relevant. What Jesus did on the cross served as a sign to us of things past present and things to come. The scripture often speaks of the future in past tense, because our future to God is the past. The Lamb was slain before the foundation of the world was laid, but yet He came in our times and was slain. If the Lamb was slain before time as we know it is and was, then the enemy was defeated also. But there is a process that takes place. And time has to record the event for our sakes that we might understand. So although it is already happened we have not seen what we call the future. We are in the time box. There is nothing new under the sun. The past and the future is already occured. we're just playing it out. God knew you and I before we were born, even before we were in Adams loins, and he saw us here in this partition of His moment that we call time. I really don't want to get to heavy with this. I just don't have the time. But if you like we shall discuss it further another time. Yes my friend the war is over, but we are not exempt. Some where in in the future this moment, this very moment, the world is on fire. Some where in the future, this very moment, Jesus is returning, Some where this very moment in the past you are being born into this world. Weird huh? Forget about time, and eek the truth. We put too much of a premium on time. We have been taught that time is valuable, or how about this one; Time is money. Jesus said, Don't worry about tomorrow. It's already taken care of. You just deal with now. And the truth is brother, we still have an enemy now. God bless you Pastor. We'll talk.
Amen Amen Amen,
As an example in my own life: All of a sudden I saw myself in front of Pilate, hearing him say, "I find no fault in Him." It’s as if what he said over Jesus, he’s saying over me. As the example continues, I meditate on where Jesus was when He began to pay the price and I know I was there with Him. So anything that happened to Him, there, happened to me. When He was fasting 40 days, I was fasting 40 days, with Him. When He spoke to the devil, HE said everything that needed to be said as far as I/we are concerned.

Conversations With the Devil.

Nobody in their right mind is going to go into a court of law and try to be their own attorney. JESUS IS YOUR ATTORNEY. HE did your speaking for you.

We have all kinds of Christians having conversations with the devil. "Now devil, you know…I’m telling you…you’re not going to…and I’m going to do this to you and that to you." Hey! It’s already done in the Son…blessed in Christ. See that the enemy IS bound and he’ll be bound. The way to bind the enemy is to count him bound, in Christ. That’s how you turn the key. Say things like, "My enemy IS bound, in Christ. I’m dead to trying to bind him. I’m resurrected to him being bound." I just showed you how to turn a key to the kingdom.
Pastor Rob,
I thank you so much for trying to show me how to turn your key. I am quite capable of utilizing the keys to the kingdom. It is your keys that I'm cautious about. I do not say you are wrong. I only say there is more. But although many of your comments appear condescending and patronizing, I still like you. You're not a bad person. Just a little anal in your thinking. I will not make comments like, "Thankyou for your opinion, at least you had one". I will treat you as an adult and an equal. I wasn't going to say anything, but I figured I should, as I would like to appreciate what other men and women of God brings to the table regarding the things of God. Now having said that, Let me begin by respectfully saying I have read your comments and your concept on this issue is not unreasonable. I do understand it fully, and it works for me. I just don't fully agree that we should call a cease fire against a very real enemy. Yes. I know he is bound. I know he is defeated. This is why I do what I do. If he were not bound, if he were not defeated could I handle him alone? There are some who are plagued and tormented by a...Yes, bound and defeated devil. This is where people like me come in. There are some things about the hunting the fisherman do not know, and there are some things about fishing the hunter do not know. There are hunters and there are fishermen. Everybody's not a hunter, and everybody's not a fisherman. Pastor, have you ever cast out a devil? I have, and I do cast out devils. Pastor, some people are not as strong and full of faith as you are. They havn't the revelation of God's love or power of deliverance. They do not know that they don't have to be bound. They don't undertand the power of their confession when they confess right confessions. I teach all these things. There is not one person in my congregation living in fear and bondage of the devil. But they know better, because I teach them. I am free. I am delivered. But I wasn't always free. The bible says, and ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free. I did not know the truth, and I still seek after it. I find that the more I know of the truth, the freer I become. I do not war for myself because I know what is already provided for me, But I do warfare for my neighbors who have not known this deliverance. I am a demon chaser; a devil stomper; a bonafide warrior in God's army. And I shall continue waylaying the devil all upside his head, all down the side of his neck, across the shoulders, against his back, all between the shoulderblades where his wings used to be, clear down to his scornful seat (metaphorically speaking)...(I said that part just for you). Seriously, I know that we agree that we should not be ignorant of God's provision for us in the cross of Our Lord. But I say also that we aught not be ignorant of satans devices either. Again, I do not say that satan is not defeated. I only say that he is a very real enemy. I know that no weapon he forms against us shall prosper. But I warfare for those who do not know. He may be bound, but he's still forming weapons. He may be bound but he still have devices that we should acknowledge. We are not to be like the ostrich, hiding our heads in the sand while pretending that our enemy is not present. Pastor, the enemy is bound by our words. Our words, our mouths are the chains that the Lord has chosen to bind him in the earth, and make him behave. If we hold our peace, we free him. Pastor, You are so right when you say, we were on that cross with Christ. On that cross, Jesus bound his works, and we were with Him. This makes sense. But I submit that if this do indeed make sense, and it does, then it is convenient to say also that as we were with Jesus in the cross, so is He also with us in the earth. And in and through us by the spirit of His Christ in us, God keeps the devil bound. Jesus is still walking the earth;saving, healing, delivering, setting free, binding, casting out, and policing
Very true and i will not knowingly be little anyone.i apologize if i ruffled something in you that has a triggering device.i have died to self i only am a messenger,you can accept or reject, the blood is no longer on me once the people are warned.We have away of following man instead of Christ.i pray my brother that you will be able to run the race to the end.Matthew 16:24 Is He (Jesus)talking about self-life or in other word's a life wherein someone is dependant upon themselves to attain a right standing with God? We can only receive right standing with God by denying that we are capable of a right standing with God,and that we can only attain through the work of the cross of Christ.And yes we must teach those who do not know that the advesary walks around seeking those who he may devour.It is not us because we
are hidden in Christ,
No weapon formed agaist you shall prosper, if you hold fast to this or by His stripes i was healed,Than take it all in and rest in the work that is already done.And be used by God,as you nor i can cast nothing out without God!
Well said Pastor Robert. God bless and keep you. I pray for your continued strength as well. You are a man of strong convictions. I admire your faithfulness. Again, God bless you real good.


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