Should Preachers of the Gospel live like a KING? - Black Preaching Network2024-03-28T14:12:12Zhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/916966:Topic:202658?commentId=916966%3AComment%3A382827&feed=yes&xn_auth=noiam bless to join your group…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-11-06:916966:Comment:17547472010-11-06T22:20:22.707Zevangelist pastor susie houstonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/evangelistpastorsusiehouston
iam bless to join your group thank you evangelist pastor susie houston
iam bless to join your group thank you evangelist pastor susie houston iam glad to join your group t…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-11-06:916966:Comment:17547452010-11-06T22:19:10.467Zevangelist pastor susie houstonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/evangelistpastorsusiehouston
iam glad to join your group thank you evangelist pastor susie houston
iam glad to join your group thank you evangelist pastor susie houston If you don't work then you do…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-11-02:916966:Comment:10775732009-11-02T18:04:40.800ZEarnest Williams (BossBlack)https://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/BOSSBLACKTHELION
If you don't work then you don't eat!!! If (and they are) a Preacher is doing the work of winning souls for the Lord why shouldn't he get paid? That is how he eats! If in the process of doing that work God sees fit to prosper him then he should be prosperous! That being said, He shouldn't live like a King at the expense of his people living like vagabonds! He should find a way to prosper them as well! They are his flock! Sheep depend on their Shepherd to take care of them, protect them and…
If you don't work then you don't eat!!! If (and they are) a Preacher is doing the work of winning souls for the Lord why shouldn't he get paid? That is how he eats! If in the process of doing that work God sees fit to prosper him then he should be prosperous! That being said, He shouldn't live like a King at the expense of his people living like vagabonds! He should find a way to prosper them as well! They are his flock! Sheep depend on their Shepherd to take care of them, protect them and multiply their well being Mentally, Physically and Spiritually! The people should want to see their Minister prosper but he should also desire the same for them! A King is subjected to the well being of his people! If the people are only there to serve him then he is a Dictator or Tyrant and just like Pharaoh he should fall! This is EXACTLY why "the WEAL…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-09-28:916966:Comment:10176312009-09-28T00:11:57.514ZArchbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greenehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ArchbishopTrevorElihu
This is EXACTLY why "the WEALTH of the wicked is laid up for the righteous"! This is EXACTLY why GOD takes pleasure in the prosperity of HIS people. How on Earth do you think that you are going to preach the Gospel to the unreached souls within preaching a prosperity Gospel and using mega money??? To say Prosperity Gospel actually is redundant, because the Gospel INCLUDES Prosperity within it! Watch this oh doubters:<br />
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<u>Mark 10:29-30</u> "<i><b>And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto…</b></i>
This is EXACTLY why "the WEALTH of the wicked is laid up for the righteous"! This is EXACTLY why GOD takes pleasure in the prosperity of HIS people. How on Earth do you think that you are going to preach the Gospel to the unreached souls within preaching a prosperity Gospel and using mega money??? To say Prosperity Gospel actually is redundant, because the Gospel INCLUDES Prosperity within it! Watch this oh doubters:<br />
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<u>Mark 10:29-30</u> "<i><b>And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's, but he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life</b></i>."<br />
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The words of JESUS said that prosperity will follow those who sacrifice for the Gospel <i><b><u>IN THIS LIFE TIME</u></b></i>, and in the world to come.<br />
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<u>Matthew 11:5</u> "<i><b>The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them.</b></i>"<br />
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JESUS met the needs of the people: if they were blind, then He gave them sight. If they were sick, then He gave them good health. Now if they were poor what curse the curse of poverty? <u><i><b>The Gospel!!</b></i></u> The Gospel teaches you:<br />
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-by His stripes you are healed, so you are free to live healed<br />
-you are no longer a sinner but a saint, so you are free to so live like a saint<br />
-you are no longer a bastard but a son so you are free to feel loved<br />
-you are no longer a slave but a king, so you are free to live devoid of poverty and free to rule<br />
-you are a son of GOD so you now have an inheritance<br />
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Let the weak say I am strong; let the poor say I am rich." Why is that the weak can still say that "I am strong", but the poor can no longer say "I am rich"? Oh my this is a great discuss…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-09-27:916966:Comment:10175352009-09-27T23:26:46.677ZJessicahttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/Jessica28
Oh my this is a great discussion. I personally don't have a problem with pastors driving a nice car and living in a big house. As long as they not eating and their congregation is starving. Dont automatically assume that poverty=godliness and wealth=ungodliness. I treat everybody on a case by case basis. They are churches doing it right. At the church i attend, the pastor sows back into the church, thousands of dollars go out each week in evangelism outreaches each week, we send groups of…
Oh my this is a great discussion. I personally don't have a problem with pastors driving a nice car and living in a big house. As long as they not eating and their congregation is starving. Dont automatically assume that poverty=godliness and wealth=ungodliness. I treat everybody on a case by case basis. They are churches doing it right. At the church i attend, the pastor sows back into the church, thousands of dollars go out each week in evangelism outreaches each week, we send groups of missionairies several times a year. The people who go, all there expenses are paid to go, also any of their bills at home. Today at church a group just came back and from Kenya, and our pastor told us a story that the kids there asked him were there any black people in America because all the missionaries they have seen are white. The kids were amazed that this was a black church coming to help them. I'm pro wealthy churches. Yes my pastor lives nicely but so does majority of the members and we not sitting on the money but its all going back to the community and to spread the gospel. So don't think that there aren't any churches doing the right thing.<br />
I believe there are alot of well intentioned pastors who have got caught up in feeling like they are entitled to live a certain way just because they are a preacher. It seems to me like they are just keeping up with each other, like so and so has this so i need to have it. It seems to be this clique and in order to get in this club you need to have certain things. I'm really not for all the lavishness that i have heard of, like solid gold toliets and such. And its not hate but i dont care how holy or godly you think you are, having all that stuff would make it very hard to stay humble. The more stuff you accumulate the harder it will be. And if you not humble, you are prideful and leading to a road of destruction. Wow!! I came across this site…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-09-21:916966:Comment:10070282009-09-21T21:48:47.778ZBishop Jeff Davishttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/BishopJeffDavis
Wow!! I came across this site while surfing the Web, and I am glad I did. To answer the original question, I don't think there is anything wrong with a pastor having any of the things that have been mentioned as long as he/she has obtained it lawful. I think that we must be mindful not to stereotype everyone because of the errors of one person. I will be honest I do drive a mercedes. I have had it for 4 years and it was used when it was purchased. But there is a story before the mercedes, like…
Wow!! I came across this site while surfing the Web, and I am glad I did. To answer the original question, I don't think there is anything wrong with a pastor having any of the things that have been mentioned as long as he/she has obtained it lawful. I think that we must be mindful not to stereotype everyone because of the errors of one person. I will be honest I do drive a mercedes. I have had it for 4 years and it was used when it was purchased. But there is a story before the mercedes, like going for 5 years without a salary so that the church could become fiscally sound and then once receiving a salary going 5 years without a raise. It is important that it be understood that their is not only sacrifice made by the pastor but also his family for the sake of ministry so when the pastor does get something he/she should not be critticized. Any person that occupies the position of pastor and has not been called by God shouldn't be rewarded. I will say this I believe that being a pastor is a calling and not a career and I also believe that God will provide any level of living that my integrity can handle. Unevangelized means just that…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-09-16:916966:Comment:9973762009-09-16T23:08:51.143ZScott R. Newmanhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ScottRNewman
Unevangelized means just that the unevangelized those who are the unreached and the name Jesus is unknown to them because the church is quietly driving benz's while neglecting the more weightier matters of Christ commands, precepts and mandates to Go Ye Therefore to the nations so that Christ can come back once every creature on earth has heard of His first coming. The question still is since were speaking of money and those things that feed the flesh only is WHAT PERCENTAGE OF YOUR CHURCHES…
Unevangelized means just that the unevangelized those who are the unreached and the name Jesus is unknown to them because the church is quietly driving benz's while neglecting the more weightier matters of Christ commands, precepts and mandates to Go Ye Therefore to the nations so that Christ can come back once every creature on earth has heard of His first coming. The question still is since were speaking of money and those things that feed the flesh only is WHAT PERCENTAGE OF YOUR CHURCHES TITHES AND OFFERINGS ARE GOING TO FEED THE GOSPEL TO THE UNEVANGELIZED AND UNREACHED PEOPLE GROUPS IN THE WORLD?? I'm not belittling this topic…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-09-16:916966:Comment:9972972009-09-16T21:56:04.768ZScott R. Newmanhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ScottRNewman
I'm not belittling this topic about a car, I think and believed I explained myself very clearly. Its not about a car or what he drives, but what drives him and his church. What is his heart and what percentage of his tithes and offerings that he collects every Sunday is going to those who have never heard of the only name that has all power and authority to forgive our sins..Jesus the Christ? So I ask you Pastor, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF YOUR TITHES AND OFFERINGS GO TO THOSE WHO ARE A PART OF CHRIST…
I'm not belittling this topic about a car, I think and believed I explained myself very clearly. Its not about a car or what he drives, but what drives him and his church. What is his heart and what percentage of his tithes and offerings that he collects every Sunday is going to those who have never heard of the only name that has all power and authority to forgive our sins..Jesus the Christ? So I ask you Pastor, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF YOUR TITHES AND OFFERINGS GO TO THOSE WHO ARE A PART OF CHRIST IN THE WORLD OF THE UNEVANGELIZED? When a man or woman (got opra…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-09-16:916966:Comment:9972802009-09-16T21:39:34.915ZScott R. Newmanhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ScottRNewman
When a man or woman (got oprah on 'da brain standing on my right shoulder), steps into the office of the under sheppard that is exactly what he is called to do.................. Why american christianity is a sham and is based on the disneyland feel goodism and looked upon as just another job.
When a man or woman (got oprah on 'da brain standing on my right shoulder), steps into the office of the under sheppard that is exactly what he is called to do.................. Why american christianity is a sham and is based on the disneyland feel goodism and looked upon as just another job. On the contrary people are la…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-09-16:916966:Comment:9969012009-09-16T18:07:20.450ZScott R. Newmanhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ScottRNewman
On the contrary people are laying down their lives daily in the world where Christ name is not yet known in dangerous and dark parts of the world where there is the most hatred for those who are professed and confessed Christians to further the Gospel of Christ. One of the reasons why I don't agree with pastors having bodyguards or as they call them now, armour bearers. So should the 'armour bearers' lay down their very lives to protect the shepard or should the shepard lay down their very…
On the contrary people are laying down their lives daily in the world where Christ name is not yet known in dangerous and dark parts of the world where there is the most hatred for those who are professed and confessed Christians to further the Gospel of Christ. One of the reasons why I don't agree with pastors having bodyguards or as they call them now, armour bearers. So should the 'armour bearers' lay down their very lives to protect the shepard or should the shepard lay down their very lives for the sheep? And if the shepard won't lay down their lives for the Gospel sake, should only missionaries lay down their lives, their material wealth, their hopes and dreams to engage the unengaged? Or should missionaries serving in the 10/40 window (google that up) have body guards too (I mean armour bearers). There has never been in the history of<br />
Christiandum been a people group who came to Christ without the the 'sent one' who suffered greatly to the point of being imprisoned, persecuted or be put to death. The very reason why we as americans living in America have the scriptures in english is because someone died and suffered and considered the cost of following the commands, the hard commands to follow the suffering Christ that we call...LORD, to have it translated into English from Latin..