There are many teachers and doctrines that are of the Christian faith. It is very difficult to discern if the person is doing the sermon for money (profit) or if they are really speaking what thus saith the Lord. Can one trust a collar and who is ordanining these preachers who are now multi-millionaires. Is it wrong to be a preacher that lives in a mansion with a Bentley that flies a Jet?
2 Corinthians 11:3-
But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.

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We have an assumption that all TV preachers fit the mold of preaching an inarrant gospel just to gain money from people. This is an incorrect assumption. We have to see the millions of dollars of good work in missions and in this country and others.

Galatians 6:8 says that whatever a man sows that shall he also reap. It is the work that God rewards. This may not be true of all but for the most part their worls extend across the continent. Remember brothers and sisters it's the person who continues to keep his or her heart right towards by keeping Him first.

What is true that if these preachers did not manifest and abundance of material possessions we would not be included in many blogs today.

May we all keep our eyes on the assignments that God has given us and immerse ourselves into it, so that the harvest of whatever your assignments is will come to lives of those we all minister to; (love, relationships, marriage, family, peace) Lets preach and teach so that we can see that manifestation in the lives of people.
Glad you mentioned missionaries, wow a black pastor mentioning that...LOL Anyway I am a missionary about to leave the comforts of America within 2yrs to go to the un evangelized areas of the world. And are you aware of the collective amount that the black church gives per year to the continuing works of Christ? What percentage of the black church tithes and offerings goes to Global missions? Like to guess? Its .01%. The black church spends more on fax copy paper and choir robes for a slamming choir than they do on Christ greatest charge to those who are followers of He. The Great Commission! What percentage of your church's tithes and offerings go to do what we all are commanded to do in the un reached?

Thank God for those McCain, conservative and republican white folx who are mainly the ones taking care and feeding those Sudanese and Malawians and Chinese orphans and building churches as well as keeping them from starving to death and who support myself as well as other African Americans. If I would rely on the black church, we'd all starve as the church does a two-step and loves to be "slain in the spirit" while the enemy of our Lord devours the very people that Jesus wept and died for.

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Scott
"What is true that if these preachers did not manifest and abundance of material possessions we would not be included in many blogs today."

I view this as FALSE. The anointing of God breaks yokes and your gift shall make room for you. Anyone being attracted by abundance of material possessions is a worshipper of material wealth, not of God. The kingdom of God is righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.
Deut 15: 3 ...but that which is thine with thy brother thine hand shall release;

4Save when there shall be no poor among you; for the LORD shall greatly bless thee in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it:

5Only if thou carefully hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all these commandments which I command thee this day.

6For the LORD thy God blesseth thee, as he promised thee: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, but thou shalt not borrow; and thou shalt reign over many nations, but they shall not reign over thee.

7If there be among you a poor man of one of thy brethren within any of thy gates in thy land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not harden thine heart, nor shut thine hand from thy poor brother:
Just play this video and you tell me after viewing this 3 minute video of John Piper a true Pastor of the Gospel of Jesus the Christ, if this doesn't answer your question. I will digress!


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Scott
Oh My, this is a great video! I also posted a article by John Piper on my blog question Is the trinity biblical check it out. the Gospel of Grace must be preached.
Yes I first heard about John Piper during my training camp with Wycliffe Bible Translators as a trainee as a missionary. His quotes were all over the building and halls. He as well as Pastor John McArthur. My views of the Gospel have changed considerably since my first conversion to the faith of Christianity and what it really means to be a true follower of Christ. I went from the Gospel of accumulation to the Gospel of sacrifice. And what a journey its been as well as an awakening to another world when you are willing to move from being SUCCESSFUL to being SIGNIFICANT.

In His Grip

Scott
No it's not wrong.
But, as a minister who doesn't have everything, I guess doesn't make a difference if a minister is wealthy or not.
As long as that minister does what God have him to do.
God does not bless us to keep te blessings fro ourselves but so we can bless others! ...Unfortunately, it seems that for these "gospel kings", the blessings are only for themselves. Their gospel is that for God to bless you, you have to ...sow into their ministry, but for God to bless them, you still have to give them your money. Why is it that in order for God to bless them they don have to sow into your ministry or into your life? ...Something is very wrong in this teaching. While we teach and preach that Jesus is coming very soon, and that the Kingdom of God is near, they are building their own kingdoms on the earth! ...While Moses teachs he peopl of Israel not to build a mansion in the middle of the desert because we re just passyng through, Moses starts building his own kingdom Palace in the middle of the desert! Nice exampl they are giving!!!
I believe through experience as a preacher when you have money you can do more for the Kingdom of God and for yourself. If the gates are pearl and the streets r gold in the New Jerusalem (Rev. 21:21) and if what so ever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven, then why not live like a King if God allows you too? My ability to preach is inspired by God not money. The money comes as a result of my preaching. I get instructions on what to do with that money from God. And the laborer is worth of their hire. You can be deceived broke! You can be deceived rich. Deception can mingle with both. If that preacher has a mansion a Bentley and a jet to God be the Glory! No Hate here. Cant get mad at someone who believes God for something other than some chicken!
Apostle Rolanda

I hear you try to explain or even try to come to the conclusion that its God who wants us rich, based on how "good" our preaching is. The Apostle Paul's type preaching was in comparison to the smoove talking pastors of today was considered pretty boring. So boring in fact that a man fell asleep while listening to him and fell and broke his neck. Paul healed him afterwards. What was the Apostles pay for that good deed? First let me say as well in no where am I "poor" or only wanting chicken. We take things to be extreme when speaking of the things of God in this faith of sacrifice. Lets start first what an Apostle really is. Are you aware as to what that title signifies and calls for?

A missionary is sent by God on a task. The word “missionary” is the Latin equivalent of the Greek “apostle,” or “sent one.”
Christian missionary (Apostle) brings the message of salvation in Christ alone to all ethnic groups so that they have the undisputed opportunity to become new persons in Christ (2 Cor. 5:17).

An Apostle is in its foundational core is a missionary, a sent one. Sent where? From church to church to get paid or receieve the abominable "love" gift? To preach to mainly believers or the faith or to be sent where Christ Jesus is not yet known? Since you brought up money comes as a result of my preaching, where do you preach to spread the Good News of Jesus the Christ where His name is not yet known so that you don't build upon another foundation (Cor. 15:20) Have you been to the 10/40 window where the majority of the 97% of the unevangelized live, such as Sudan, China, North Korea, Iraq, Yemen, Turkey, Iran, Mesopothemia, Mali, or any other stronghold area of the world where the people are still sacrificing animals as a blood sacrifice to atone for their sins as they are heavy laden and are in no rest the rest that only Christ Jesus can give, as they await an Apostle, a sent one to tell them the Good News of the free gift of salvation.

Are you aware Apostle Rolanda that 96% of all pastors, bishops, apostles, prophets, ministers and evangelists preach to only 6% of the world, mostly in America, why? Why do you think? Because that is safe. Because there's money in 'dem hills. In India alone are you aware Apostle (sent one) Rolanda that they worship the cow, while children are starving to deeath? Are you aware that in India the rat is considered holy as the rat consumes a third of the grain, while children, God's children starve to death? Are you aware Apostle as we desire more chicken to feed our own bellies, that in central Africa in the country of Mali, black women who look like you are killing their twin and triplet babies for the enemy has tricked them and deceived them into thinking that only dogs have litters. Are you aware that in Turkey and in mainly the Islamic countries they are martyring more Christians today than ever before for their faith? Are you aware that in unevangelized world of the unreached there is just 1 minister of the Gospel for every 78,000 people compared to America where there is 1 minister of the Gospel for every 182 people? Are you aware Apostle Rolanda that 85% of all Bibles published are written and translated into Engish, where there are over 7,000 different languages and dialects? Are you aware that there are over 1.8 billion people still who never heard of the Gospel and Good News of Christ and over 42,000 people die per day without ever hearing of the only name that redeems us from His blood on calvary? Are you aware that there is still over 2,200 people groups in the world who don't have a Bible in their own language of understanding? How many bibles do you have in your crib? Are you aware that 200 million people left in the world don't have any scripture written nor translated in their mother tonuge of understanding? What if you couldn't understand your Bible, how would you know that God loves you, your bride groom is trying to marry you if you couldn't understand Him?

So yes the laborer is worth their hire? What is the work? What is the command, what is the call, what does He require of us for our money or our gold? WHy should God bless us when we aren't blessing Him in His command for all of us to be involved in some way in the command of the Great Commission?

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit:
Mat 28:20 teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.

Christ doesn't tell His Apostles if they would like to go, or if they feel led to go, HE says emphatically to "Go Ye Therefore....." Unless my Bible is in error.

What are we loosing on earth that heave is compelled loose from heaven? What more do we need here in america since we never seem to be satisfied nor content? Not one person in this forum is starving to death, there is food I believe in your stomach, you I'm sure have running water, and a roof over your head, clean clothes on your back and furniture in your home, heat in the winter, AC in the summer, making over $5,000 per year, if you have that and more, you are living better than 75% of the rest of the unevangelized world. Are you content yet? We are so rich that we pee in clean water!

And to whomsoever much is given, of him shall much be required: and to whom they commit much, of him will they ask the more. Luk 12:48

So since I have clarified that we here in America are very wealthy, not just rich. We have an abundant of churches over 600,000 worship facilities that are half full. Numerous and an abundant of Bible CD's, different types of translations to get a more deeper understanding of God's loving Word. We have numerous and thousands of Christian book stores that are empty. We can turn the tv on and hear the latest televangelist getting "deep" with the Word and watch the ilk of TD Jakes who preaches everything except the Gospel, but a more emotional and in touch with our inner selves as we get a "feeling" a tear jerk "Word" of continuing to want to extract more of an emotional based sermon, since the simple Gospel is not any longer relevant to us any more, since the flesh just wants more and more as they add and subtract more from the mysteries of God's Word. Or do we just want to live like Rev. Run, who walks around in his mansion, driving his bentley to pick up his pubescent son from the school bus stop, while daddy Run walks around in a priests collar and never seems to preach nowhere as he ends his show while bathing in bubbles text messaging to us. This is what your and my precious Jesus died and wept for? Chicken? No, not enough, or at least give me the big piece of chicken while the rest of the world continues to wait and starve and as that African woman wears a 15 gallon water jug on her head travelling over 7 miles for that tainted well water as she suffers from the weakening affects of aids and other pestilences just to feed and satisfy the thirst and hunger of her 5 dying children. So if the Good News is Jesus the Christ and He is the living water, what therefore is the bad news? The bad news is that African woman who was never evangelized and never heard of Jesus and she dies apart from Christ she....PERISHES! Does that concern you?

“WHAT SHALL IT PROFIT A MAN IF HE GAIN THE WHOLE WORLD AND LOSE HIS OWN SOUL?”

Jesus said, "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye tithe mint and anise and cummin, and have left undone the weightier matters of the law, justice, and mercy, and faith: but these ye ought to have done, and not to have left the other undone." Matthew 23:23
Now I ask, WHERE IS THERE PIECE OF CHICKEN?

In His Grip

Scott
this apostle has been through the fire and the flood and God has brought me out into a wealthy place. First of all you need to learn how to simplify. I dont need religious sermons or ideas of what an apostle is. Get a life! learn to relax. you dont get a chance to speak much at your place of worship do you. I can tell. No hate here! Im blessed and I bless others! I too have learned how to be abased and abound. Peace out!

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