A Question for Christian Parents.....When Did We Lose Control? - Black Preaching Network2024-03-28T08:42:09Zhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/916966:Topic:40647?commentId=916966%3AComment%3A128698&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI could say A WHOLE LOT more…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2008-07-26:916966:Comment:1295452008-07-26T05:14:45.705ZpraiZehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/SherrylHooks
I could say A WHOLE LOT more but I"ll start out with....... PREACH PREACHA PREACH!!<br />
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Rev. Hooks<br />
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You have not only narrowed, but pin-pointed and slammed the hammer down on so many if not <b>ALL</b> of the Key points God has given me through this article.<br />
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Your clarity, and forethought in bringing the history of the duality of our thinking and acting processes makes me further search and research God's WORD!<br />
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Your points of Self-evaluation may not have fallen on blind eyes, but hopefully those…
I could say A WHOLE LOT more but I"ll start out with....... PREACH PREACHA PREACH!!<br />
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Rev. Hooks<br />
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You have not only narrowed, but pin-pointed and slammed the hammer down on so many if not <b>ALL</b> of the Key points God has given me through this article.<br />
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Your clarity, and forethought in bringing the history of the duality of our thinking and acting processes makes me further search and research God's WORD!<br />
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Your points of Self-evaluation may not have fallen on blind eyes, but hopefully those who read and choose not to respond will take another look into the REALITY that goes on once the church doors close.<br />
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I'm not looking for the AMEN crowd, but the lack of it assures, confirms and validates , I need to REALLY press forth with what GOD has pre-destined for me.<br />
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While we're still falling over one another, figuring out our titles and self- imposed positions in life, and christandom.................. our OWN CHILDREN are dying, SPIRITURALY and LITERALLY!<br />
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Such a waste<br />
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bless you my brother continue to hold up the Blood stained banner of Truth<br />
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praiZe Wow! To address this prolific…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2008-07-25:916966:Comment:1292362008-07-25T15:31:51.192ZDr. Larry D. Hooks IIhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/lhooks
Wow! To address this prolific and well rounded discussion requires some much needed self evaluation. Let me begin by giving one of many, but my most explorative opinions.<br />
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The Month of January is named after the Greek god Janis, In greek mythology, the greek god Janis was depicted as man with two faces. One face looked backwards and one face looked forward, therefore the month of January was named after Janis. It is the closeth to the old and the new. Well When we look at life we see two faces.…
Wow! To address this prolific and well rounded discussion requires some much needed self evaluation. Let me begin by giving one of many, but my most explorative opinions.<br />
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The Month of January is named after the Greek god Janis, In greek mythology, the greek god Janis was depicted as man with two faces. One face looked backwards and one face looked forward, therefore the month of January was named after Janis. It is the closeth to the old and the new. Well When we look at life we see two faces. One face looks backwards and one face looks forward. The face that looks back bares the traces of sorrow and dismay, perplexity. But the face that looks forward is characterized by Joy, hope and confidence.<br />
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It is very important for us to pause for a moment to take inventory in respect to the question raised where and when did we go wrong, to evaluate our personal circumstances. Our evaluation will reveal at least a couple of things. First the areas of life where we were aggressive and productive, but our evaluation will also show that frustration and failure.<br />
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What is important is that what ever the past can render as evidence were determined to strive forward. Behind us is the past. Life has two faces and the past has two faces.<br />
The first face is the face of failure and second is the face success and whether you have failures or successes in your past you've got to press on towards the mark of the high prize that is before you.<br />
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See failure can paralyze you and success can paralyze you. Failure can paralyze you through fear where you become afraid to attempt to anything new. Many of us today are paralyzed by our past failures. But not only are you paralyzed by past failures, but also some people are paralyzed by past success. Success can paralyze you through and unhealthy satisfaction. Where you are satisfied with where you are, satisfied with what you have done and accomplished.<br />
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To create such a dialouge of this much needed topic is rich with hope, with dreams, with realities. Where did we go wrong. We may never really know the exact time or the place or the generation. The fair analysis is that we realize that we have a situation that requires our most needed attention.<br />
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We need to first give credit to the many many resources that have provided welfare for our communities. That is the countless Sunday School teachers, pastors, principals, teachers, grandmothers, ect. We cannot forget the labor that wretched down and provided a safety net for us through the help of God. The very fact that we are having this conversation is proof that not all is lost!<br />
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In the gospel according to Luke 16: 19-31, it records a story about a rich man going to hell. In this story, this rich man has a message from them in hell to those on their way to hell. It's hot down here, and don't come. He requested that Abraham would get a message to his five brothers. What I have discovered is that who ever goes to hell can’t just walk there uprightly. Whoever goes to hell stumbles into hell, for you see who ever goes to hell has to stumble over every gospel message he heard preached, every zion song that has been sung, he or she has to stumble over mother’s prayers, over every cemetery that he or she sees, he has to stumble over every church building he passes, they have to stumble over the cross of Christ and the love of God.<br />
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Well you know why I’m able to be here today, somebody told me turn around, my Momma told me to turn around, my pastor told me to turn around and my community to me to turn around. Well i believe where and when we went wrong is when we stopped caring. C.A.R.E: Community Awareness Reaction Effort.<br />
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It used to be when we the (community) cared, we would stop children whose activites was unproductive, when we cared we made sure single mothers kids had role models. When we cared the community was an extended family. My mother raised five of us and we had uncles ,coaches, preachers and teachers all kinds of extended family memeb John,
I never got the opport…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2008-07-24:916966:Comment:1287752008-07-24T22:32:41.809ZpraiZehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/SherrylHooks
John,<br />
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I never got the opportunity to respond to your post! It is EXCELLENT, and you've raised your children to be successful and prosperous!<br />
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Babies being a Surprise, on the other hand well... the jury's still out on that one (LOL)<br />
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We have to embrace the times and understand what's REALLY going on and no longer bury our heads in the sand. If you commit the act without protection, the end result will be a BABY!<br />
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I don't want to get off so much into discipline right now, because that is a VERY…
John,<br />
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I never got the opportunity to respond to your post! It is EXCELLENT, and you've raised your children to be successful and prosperous!<br />
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Babies being a Surprise, on the other hand well... the jury's still out on that one (LOL)<br />
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We have to embrace the times and understand what's REALLY going on and no longer bury our heads in the sand. If you commit the act without protection, the end result will be a BABY!<br />
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I don't want to get off so much into discipline right now, because that is a VERY controversial topic, however Preparation is KEY!<br />
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Husband and Wife, ideally, need to sit down and discuss how their children should and WILL be raised and come in <b>AGREEMENT</b>, BEFORE the child gets here.<br />
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Our organization is striving toward working with couples to erase bad parenting practices. Bad may be a harsh word, maybe ineffective would be more palletable. However you say it, there has to be a meeting of the MINDS, before there's a meeting of the BODIES!<br />
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I loved what TD Jakes said last night on CNN with the reference between IDEALISTICALLY & REALITY ( I may have to write about that one)<br />
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But Ideally, we need to resurrect that OLD SCHOOL mentality that you speak of John and reinforce it on a consistent and loving basis.<br />
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Hopefully, this will open up the floor for further discussion, after all these months!<br />
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Thanks for your contribution<br />
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blessings,<br />
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praiZe<br />
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blessings,<br />
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praiZe Thanks Asheba!
It's true ...…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2008-07-24:916966:Comment:1287702008-07-24T22:27:13.510ZpraiZehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/SherrylHooks
Thanks Asheba!<br />
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It's true .... this is a controversial issue! But personally I'm tired of seeing children mal-aligned by "sometimes" well-meaning parents, and at other times parents who are just disconnected.<br />
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"<i>They believe society and people gave up on them, and that they are nothing, so what I did I took them and listen and ask what do you want in life some knew and some did not, the ones who knew took them around the people they dreamed to be and work with them cried with them love them…</i>
Thanks Asheba!<br />
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It's true .... this is a controversial issue! But personally I'm tired of seeing children mal-aligned by "sometimes" well-meaning parents, and at other times parents who are just disconnected.<br />
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"<i>They believe society and people gave up on them, and that they are nothing, so what I did I took them and listen and ask what do you want in life some knew and some did not, the ones who knew took them around the people they dreamed to be and work with them cried with them love them the one who did not know I study who they were what kind of talent they had and did not know they had one. You can save children, it how u approach the issues. I never used well back in my time, well we are not in there time of understanding.</i><br />
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If I'm understanding you correctly, you reach out to children... and that's a GREAT THING!<br />
but the underlying question is WHY do we need so many individuals and agencies OUTSIDE of our homes attempting to fix something that's right before our eyes... on a DAILY BASIS?<br />
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You keep doing you, Asheba! You are a TRUE SiS (you know what I mean) and I encourage you to continue your efforts.<br />
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You and others like you are much needed and a viable asset to the Body of Christ<br />
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blessings,<br />
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praiZe I sometimes don't get in conv…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2008-07-24:916966:Comment:1287502008-07-24T21:14:29.059Zashebahttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/asheba
I sometimes don't get in conversation like this. But some of the things that u saying is true but some are not. I dealt with helping children for many many years in the streets of Harlem. I learned u point at them, u label them and don't approach them the right way. not understanding why, not listening to there cry. You miss out on how to help them, believe me they don't want this they just don't know how to get out of it and save face.<br />
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They believe society and people gave up on them, and that…
I sometimes don't get in conversation like this. But some of the things that u saying is true but some are not. I dealt with helping children for many many years in the streets of Harlem. I learned u point at them, u label them and don't approach them the right way. not understanding why, not listening to there cry. You miss out on how to help them, believe me they don't want this they just don't know how to get out of it and save face.<br />
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They believe society and people gave up on them, and that they are nothing, so what I did I took them and listen and ask what do you want in life some knew and some did not, the ones who knew took them around the people they dreamed to be and work with them cried with them love them the one who did not know I study who they were what kind of talent they had and did not know they had one. You can save children, it how u approach the issues. I never used well back in my time, well we are not in there time of understanding. I've been asked to re-post th…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2008-07-24:916966:Comment:1286982008-07-24T19:14:30.471ZpraiZehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/SherrylHooks
I've been asked to re-post this!
I've been asked to re-post this! I concur with you definitely!…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2007-12-14:916966:Comment:410222007-12-14T22:23:37.911ZJohnhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/John
I concur with you definitely! I'd like to add that we as young people were/are never taught about being a parent as with many things. For the most part babies are a surprise to the parents whether they are married or not. I'm not saying all married couples don't plan but for the most part it is a surprise and then just accepted because "hey we're married and that's going to happen and it's suppose to." For the most part none of us are prepared for this joy. I know I wasn't and I don't believe…
I concur with you definitely! I'd like to add that we as young people were/are never taught about being a parent as with many things. For the most part babies are a surprise to the parents whether they are married or not. I'm not saying all married couples don't plan but for the most part it is a surprise and then just accepted because "hey we're married and that's going to happen and it's suppose to." For the most part none of us are prepared for this joy. I know I wasn't and I don't believe my parents were either. We just accept it and go on.<br />
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You look at the babies today having babies and it is worse than 20 years ago. When I was growing up (though not all did) but it was taught for the woman to hold on (they knew us knuckleheaded boys didn't have the strength) until marriage. Though it didn't happen all the time for the most part it did and that's because it was taught. We've for the most part have stopped teaching and disciplining in the home. Some think it's up to the schools or the church and IT'S NOT. It's up to the parents of that child to teach and discipline. I even hear parents talk bad about anyone that disciplines their children as though it's a crime. I agree there is abuse and that shouldn't happen but real discipline has stopped for the most part. Even the government has taken a role in child rearing and that's really not acceptable, PLEASE! Discipline a child and that child can be taken, give me a break. As the bible states, spare the rod spoil the child. That's a reson why most of these kids don't have self respect or respect for anyone. I don't know if anyone has ever been on BlackPlanet.com but my God. It is a real shame and will show you how our young ladies and gents are towards themselves and one another. IT may as well be a porn site on most ocassions. I had to say something and I don't usually get on kids the way I did but mercy. I have two sons 27 and 17 and I told them I wouldn't want to be a young man in their generations for nothing in this world but then again I remember that my sons were talked to at home and I got on them butts (exucse my french) and put structure in their lives and so did their mother. I've been places and seen kids just act up with their parents and thought "Let me have them for just the weekend." LOL I see white children really cutting up with and disrespecting their children. It starts, begins and ends at home. You don't have children and then think somebody else is suppose to raise them.<br />
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Now I hear you say we and our kids go to church and that's true but out of what? Is it out of "That's what we're suppose to do so we go?" or is it because we have a love and understanding for God? I don't know. When I was younger I use to think I was being punished and forced to go to church and sit up there all day long when I could be playing. LOL But I wasn't talked to about why I needed to go...just go and that's that. But I was talked to and disciplined at home and I did the same to mine. Like you said it has stopped. Maybe we are too busy with jobs and single parenting. I don't know but great topic and needs to be discussed. Thank you for it.