I agree that deliverance is in order. I also believe that the issue should be addressed spiritually whether it be hormonal or no. These things we often say, but my question is what can we do? Or better yet, when will we do it. We have identified the problem already. Isn't it about time we stop preaching the problem and proceed with the solution? We say we have the solution, and so we do, but yet there's still much talk and very little action. I do not say call not the sin sin, because sin is what it is. All sickness and disease has it's root in sin. My thing is this. Let us devise a scripturally based plan with promise and agree to put it into action, (not just talk about it, but actually do it Now) Let us network our faith and develop spiritual weapons of mass destruction. Let us recruit warriors that are strengthened by the power of God's Spirit and might who are motivated by love and compassion, and let's leave the judging to the judges. Let us pray for wisdom, and for the key that loose the bands of the wicked and set the captives free. How about if we started a prayer/Spirit motivated coalition or campaign; an enterprise that actually educate people regarding their spiritual condition, as we already know that they appear to have a handle on the physical aspect, for the children of this world are wiser in their generation than the children of God because they attend to the things of the flesh more so than we do to the spiritual. And by the way, It's not ALL hormonal, but it is all a disease, a sickness, which much needs Jesus and His saving healing grace. So, I ask again, What can we do to help?
PS Doctors and preachers can work together. Sometimes It is not known that cancer must be cast out except a doctor had first diagnosed it as such. Likewise, If there is a hormonal discrepancy or some type of mental deficiency involved and we know it, then we know how to address the sin or spirit behind it. Our fight is not with the homosexual, but the spirit which has power and influence over him.
"...We can affirm our gay brothers, lesbian sisters and our bi and transgender brothers and sisters..."
What does that mean? - AFFIRM them.
Do you affirm the pedophile, I mean they are wired like that?
Newview educate yourself on sexual orientation. Pedophiles are wired like what? Most pedophiles are heterosexual men preying on lil girls with 75 percent of all victims of child rape being female.
Homosexuality like heterosexuality is a sexual orientation where pedophilia is an illness.
When I stated that what NEEDED to be done about it was fasting and praying and elders with holy clean lives to lay hands upon them - thats exactly my remedy. Thats it. If we cant believe that thats where the POWER is - then we need to pack up and go home or become muslims or buddists or animists or athiests.
By the way - I dont subscribe to your following point of view:
"...PS Doctors and preachers can work together. Sometimes It is not known that cancer must be cast out except a doctor had first diagnosed it as such..."
I believe that there are a whole HOSTS of sickenesses that are wiped out without a doctor's diagnosis. I believe that Jesus heals all kinds of diseases and sickeness we really didnt ever know we had. I dont need to seek out every little thing that ails me - I have a DOCTOR - his name is Jesus who handles those sorts of things...However I am old school.
I have much faith in the old paths. And yet, when the doctors fail and the machines cant heal - the sick christian of today 'finally' seek out those that believe in the POWER of Jesus all by himself. They seek out the men that dont give excuses for sin and ask for their prayers, they seek out women that are just dopey enough to live strict holy lives to fast for them. You know all of those that they DONT want to be bother with because they are so heavenly minded they are no earthly good...Then they get sick and all of that changes.
God bless you, Pastor King.
And keep preaching faith and holines to your followers. There are not many godly leaders left in the church. They have left the path and are following the way of Cain. Stay far from them. Their reasoning is WORLDLY and HOT and seems rather REASONAB LE but they are of their father, the devil.
Newview, I understand what you say, as I walk in divine health and healing, and do teach it also to the people whom God has put in my care. I only say that doctors are very instrumental in giving us knowledge of some sickness and diseases. Too long have we been ignorant of satan's devices. We turn from knowledge of temporal things and avoid understanding because we deem ourselves too holy, or we just don't want our faith to have any competition. Jesus actually knew what was wrong with the people that He healed. There are times when the Holy Spirit will reveal what sickness a person has, and hen there are times when the person must reveal to the minister what his sickness is (he get's this information from the doctor, sometimes the doctors diagnosis serves as a confirmation of the individuals healing or his condition, thereby increasing his faith in the minister who knew it from God) , nevertheless, we know what we are dealing with and how to deal with it. If effiminancy is hormonal, then I know that besides dealing with the spiritual aspect of this delimma, I can also pray about those damned hormones (they are damned, they certainly aren't blessed), I might have confidence of a better success. I believe it is essential to minister to the total man. spirit, soul, and body. Often we examine closely the spirit, and the soul, but we do not examine the body. We expect it to just fall in line. Every part of a persons nature should be touched in the advent of a healing. Thank you for your kind words, and I pray God's grace, and favor upon your life. May you ever increase in faith, especially that faith which worketh by love. Keep fighting the fight, but remember, that fight of faith is the biggest fight we've got. We're more than conquerors in everything else.Selah.
I know all that sounds all good and well put together but have you ever sat down with someone who is a homsexual to see HOW this may have happened to them?!
Some where raped, molested and nurtured into this- does any of this matter to you and your dogmatic view of homosexuality?!
The "saints" need to know that everything can't be solved with a smack of oil on the forehead and a sherk and jerk.
Some of these homosexuals don't want to be homosexual but they are suffering and choose to stay where they are comfortable because the CHURCH has shunned them.
Let's try a different approach of getting to the ROOT of the issue.
Minister, you said:
"Newview educate yourself on sexual orientation. Pedophiles are wired like what? Most pedophiles are heterosexual men preying on lil girls with 75 percent of all victims of child rape being female.
Homosexuality like heterosexuality is a sexual orientation where pedophilia is an illness."
Listen to what you just said - PEDOPHILES ARE STRAIGHT MEN that go after little girls.
Arent they wired to desire the very young? Can they help who they desire? Arent we suppose to love on them just like we love on the men who burn in desire one for another, and yet letting them know it is a sin before God.
And IF anyone needs love and affirmation - wouldnt it be the one who has an ILLNESS?
Remember to you homosexuality is not an illness.
Newview we love everyone but your comparing pedophilia with homosexuality is ignorance. And needs no further response.