ABORTION & THE BIBLE PTS. 1 & 2 - Black Preaching Network2024-03-29T11:45:29Zhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/abortion-the-bible-pts-1-2?commentId=916966%3AComment%3A1058708&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHey Watson, you spoke of the…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-24:916966:Comment:10636142009-10-24T19:37:05.018ZMs. Elaine Johnsonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MsElaineJohnson
Hey Watson, you spoke of the 'temptation' some young women put forth with their provacative dress.'<br />
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Well, the Scripture worth heeding with regard to such matters is this: YIELD NOT TO TEMPTATION! Please, heed it.<br />
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Elsewhere, Scripture says, 'there is no temptation that has overtaken you that God is not able to help you resist.'<br />
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Galations 5 speaks of the 'sins of the flesh' and how to avoid it. One can avoid it by 'yielding to the spirit' as the Holy Spirt will help you to resist such…
Hey Watson, you spoke of the 'temptation' some young women put forth with their provacative dress.'<br />
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Well, the Scripture worth heeding with regard to such matters is this: YIELD NOT TO TEMPTATION! Please, heed it.<br />
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Elsewhere, Scripture says, 'there is no temptation that has overtaken you that God is not able to help you resist.'<br />
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Galations 5 speaks of the 'sins of the flesh' and how to avoid it. One can avoid it by 'yielding to the spirit' as the Holy Spirt will help you to resist such temptation and show you the true value of love in Yahshua Hamashiach.<br />
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What I mean is, Christ will teach you to value yourself and women. To honor purity, holiness, righteousness and seek for a virtuous woman who you can love and cling to all the days of your life (Mal. 2:15; Prov. 31; etc.).<br />
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You see, truth is, the marriage bed i.e. intimacy between a man and a woman was made solely for married people.<br />
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The world is dying and the lust thereof. We must pray for our youth to become clean, sober, decent, and virtuous in their outlook with regard to this matter.<br />
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Here's how you remedy the lusts of the flesh, begin to pray for the youth to walk in righteousness. Daily pray down the Holy Spirit on our youth and you will see that you are a righteous vessel meant to be a light that God is using for His finest purpose.<br />
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His finest purpose is to turn you into a holy, warrior unleashing righteousness in a dark and dying world. Yeah, sad but true on the one…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-24:916966:Comment:10634502009-10-24T17:12:24.610ZMs. Elaine Johnsonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MsElaineJohnson
Yeah, sad but true on the one hand but on the other hand, you are comparing 'apples to oranges' with regard to your overall disposition on this issue.<br />
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From what you have stated, your problem is that 'females can get pregnant, lie about who the father is or, as you delightfully put it, 'pick-a-daddy' and then cause the said chosen one to have to spend half his income i.e 50% paying for the child's upkeep whether he believes it is his or not.'<br />
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Well, that's a whole different issue from Roe V…
Yeah, sad but true on the one hand but on the other hand, you are comparing 'apples to oranges' with regard to your overall disposition on this issue.<br />
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From what you have stated, your problem is that 'females can get pregnant, lie about who the father is or, as you delightfully put it, 'pick-a-daddy' and then cause the said chosen one to have to spend half his income i.e 50% paying for the child's upkeep whether he believes it is his or not.'<br />
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Well, that's a whole different issue from Roe V Wade. Roe V Wade is the law of the land. A woman can terminate her pregnancy. Albeit, the original argument was 'what if a mother's life is in danger? Doctors should be able to legally terminate the pregnancy in order to save the life of the mother for the fact is, 'abortion' is a medical procedure in that way.'<br />
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Now, unfortunately, this legalized law has been abused by wretched doctors in order to make millions on the termination of life of the unborn. That is evil before God.<br />
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They will pay for this evil. As well, clergy will pay for not properly reaching out to women with regard to the ramifications of abortion.<br />
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They chose to declare a political war and put all the funds toward that, rather than declaring a spiritual war and saving the lives of millons of the unborn.<br />
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Now, that's one issue of abortion. Again, your issue is really about having to pay for the sin of fornication.<br />
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FORNICATION is defined as 'SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE.' The Bible says, it is WRONG..i.e. DON'T DO IT!<br />
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Male and female, DON'T DO IT!<br />
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If you do, the 'wages' or 'costs' in the U.S. is that the father must pay half for the child. The mother must and do understand this quite cleary Watson, pay MORE THAN HALF.<br />
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Oh, you present a picture of her sitting at home raking in Welfare but it's not that simple especially in light of the new laws that are advancing with regard to 'From Welfare To Work.'<br />
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She too, has to work for a living and darlin', a livin' is COSTLY. The 50% of any given males probable 'minimum wage' income can't even buy a proper box of expensive diapers and formula, and clothing and pacifiers, and etc. etc.<br />
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So you see, it costs her, big time. Her life is permanently altered. Not only that, she alters societies' life in that society ends up paying for the child. Thank God for the new 'From Welfare to Work' programs that are put upon her to stop her from this 'insane' behavior of pumping out fatherless children.<br />
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She is penalized in that she must now take proper care of the child and if she doesn't, here comes 'Social Services' to remove the child from her midst. . She must now get out and work. Bottom line, her body itself is permanently altered. Her life is permanently altered. The little girl must now grow up fast and take care of the life that she recklessly brought into the world.<br />
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Sin is costly Watson, for both the male and female. Not to mention, society at large who has to deal with a young, ignorant teen-ager, mothering children who end up in and out of the prison system because she has little to no education to breed into him with regard to right and wrong.<br />
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Of course, we thank God for all the exceptions to the rule who make it. However, overall that is the case.<br />
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Sin costs so much Watson, so very much and that poor, lost bewildered child unfortunately, gets the worst of it.<br />
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Let us pray down morality amidst the black culture. Indeed, amidst white, brown, yellow and red for only the Holy Spirit can make the difference now. Watson you asked, "how come t…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-23:916966:Comment:10623042009-10-23T20:26:05.409ZMs. Elaine Johnsonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MsElaineJohnson
Watson you asked, "how come the man's income is not an issue when she is giving it up?"<br />
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I say, 'oh but it is, it is' she may be naively whoring but our blessed government is her 'pimp' refusing to let the male get off scot free if he 'knocks her up'.<br />
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Yep, the law will step right in and say, 'it's time to pay.' The Bible will second it with the flourishing reminder whisperings of "the 'wages' i.e. 'cost' of 'sin is upon you. So obey the law or, go to jail. and don't even think about praying to…
Watson you asked, "how come the man's income is not an issue when she is giving it up?"<br />
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I say, 'oh but it is, it is' she may be naively whoring but our blessed government is her 'pimp' refusing to let the male get off scot free if he 'knocks her up'.<br />
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Yep, the law will step right in and say, 'it's time to pay.' The Bible will second it with the flourishing reminder whisperings of "the 'wages' i.e. 'cost' of 'sin is upon you. So obey the law or, go to jail. and don't even think about praying to me to stop it because I won't!' says Wisdom who warned you in the first place (Prov. 7). Yeah but Watson, that's the p…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-23:916966:Comment:10621922009-10-23T19:51:48.867ZMs. Elaine Johnsonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MsElaineJohnson
Yeah but Watson, that's the price of the fun part...getting screwed. It's like that old adage, 'man takes a drink, drink takes a drink, drink takes the man.'<br />
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I guess you could say, 'the man takes a screw, law takes a screw, and screw takes the man's' income.<br />
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Again, the only one trying to remedy all of this from ever being a problem is the Lord i.e. 'DO NOT FORNICATE' both MALE and female.<br />
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So, yes, yes, yes, 50 or as the young people phrase it, 'fiffty' all the way.<br />
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As for the loose young…
Yeah but Watson, that's the price of the fun part...getting screwed. It's like that old adage, 'man takes a drink, drink takes a drink, drink takes the man.'<br />
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I guess you could say, 'the man takes a screw, law takes a screw, and screw takes the man's' income.<br />
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Again, the only one trying to remedy all of this from ever being a problem is the Lord i.e. 'DO NOT FORNICATE' both MALE and female.<br />
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So, yes, yes, yes, 50 or as the young people phrase it, 'fiffty' all the way.<br />
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As for the loose young girls out there yeah, it is pathetically sad, what a young girl will turn herself into for attention.<br />
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You're right, those girls, (in the Maury cases), many times doesn't know which of the multiple partners is the father so she 'picks one.'<br />
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Now, a wise man would say, 'hey, I'm not going to be with such types to put myself in such a position.'<br />
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However, you know the term the 'proverbial fool'? It comes from Proverbs 7. There the brainless 'fool' walks headlong (excuse the pun) right into her midst even though he has been warned. Yep, just whistles his way into destruction and then later belly aches about it. Hmp...the Nerve.<br />
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So you see, all in all Watson, the Bible is his 4th contraception that if he would have only heeded, he wouldn't find himself in the trouble he gets in.<br />
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The Bible's final conclusion more or less proclaims, 'it serves him right.' (Prov. 7:7).<br />
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As kids, if we were disobedient in class we used to have to write on the board, 'I WILL FOLLOW THE RULES! I WILL FOLLOW THE RULES!'<br />
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I think it would do young girls and boys well to have that same punishment implemented in the school system for it could possibly save them a lifetime of heartache, wouldn't you say?<br />
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As for Roe V Wade on the books, well the thing about it is this, legalized abortion has saved the life of the mother and should not become illegal. Now, there should be great restraints put upon the law about mid and late term abortions.<br />
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The main thing is for us to pray God's Spirit to move on the hearts of men and women to quit using abortion as an option. lol "Pick-a-daddy' eh? That's…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-23:916966:Comment:10620962009-10-23T18:53:27.591ZMs. Elaine Johnsonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MsElaineJohnson
lol "Pick-a-daddy' eh? That's a good one. You know, the Maury Povich show is too tacky for me to watch but from time to time I have observed bits of it and seen those alleged 'DNA' tests results. Sometimes, depending on the guest, i truly believe that the staff deliberately says 'it's not, when it is' or vice/versa. It's all about the ratings you know.<br />
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Still, yeah you are right there is those who will deliberately lie like that but then, the male just has to come up with the money to get a…
lol "Pick-a-daddy' eh? That's a good one. You know, the Maury Povich show is too tacky for me to watch but from time to time I have observed bits of it and seen those alleged 'DNA' tests results. Sometimes, depending on the guest, i truly believe that the staff deliberately says 'it's not, when it is' or vice/versa. It's all about the ratings you know.<br />
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Still, yeah you are right there is those who will deliberately lie like that but then, the male just has to come up with the money to get a offical DNA. As we see from the Maury Povich show the types of males that are accused usually don't have 2 nickels to rub together so the point is moot anyway.<br />
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Now, when you get down to a real, decent working man, the story changes. If she is lying it becomes a cruel injustice that he will just have to fight through the courts.<br />
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Every now and then something slips through the cracks and an ultimate injustice is wrought where the woman lies, and gets away with it. That is sad, but then, that is the price of fornication, eh? That's why God's word tells us both male and female, not to do it.It'll cost you, and like you more or less said, it has cost some.<br />
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The wages of sin, the wages of sin, eh?<br />
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Now, with regard to 'abortion' yeah, Christian women out of the will of God may feel that way and it is true, may have had an abortion. I hope all such repent. I guess, what I should have better gotten across is this, the Bible being our moral compass, if heeded, will allow no Christian woman to 'commit abortion' because the life within the womb is from God.<br />
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May all women wake up to that reality.<br />
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Oh, as for that 'GOOD AND RIGHT' 50% rule, hey, the kid's half his so he's got to pay half. Min. Jackson, I don't buy tha…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-23:916966:Comment:10610582009-10-23T02:45:24.586ZMs. Elaine Johnsonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MsElaineJohnson
Min. Jackson, I don't buy that argument one bit! If a woman is pregnant with a rich man's baby you better believe she's going to KEEP IT!<br />
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If a woman is pregnant with a poor man's baby, she's going to 'abort' it because she is considering his un-employed status and mentality of staying that way with her ending up fighting him for a nickel, if. he can scrap it together to get it, which she highly doubts. That's just the way it is.<br />
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If a true spirit-filled woman who Loves the Lord marries a true…
Min. Jackson, I don't buy that argument one bit! If a woman is pregnant with a rich man's baby you better believe she's going to KEEP IT!<br />
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If a woman is pregnant with a poor man's baby, she's going to 'abort' it because she is considering his un-employed status and mentality of staying that way with her ending up fighting him for a nickel, if. he can scrap it together to get it, which she highly doubts. That's just the way it is.<br />
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If a true spirit-filled woman who Loves the Lord marries a true spirit-filled man, be he rich, poor or middle class she's going to keep that child. That too, is just the way it is.<br />
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Please rear just such men amidst your ministry and all of this will be a non-issue. Yes Bro. Watson, I agree, tha…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-23:916966:Comment:10610562009-10-23T02:32:49.639ZMs. Elaine Johnsonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MsElaineJohnson
Yes Bro. Watson, I agree, that's what I said in my commentary, secular women specifically believe, 'this is my body and leave me alone.' I do not agree when it comes to the child in the womb. However, if a man has gotten involved with a secular woman then he gets the full impact of her ungodly decisions.<br />
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Let us hope that righteous men are not joining themselves together with unbelieving women so that this should be a non-issue for them. ,Afterall, Christian women believe in keeping the child…
Yes Bro. Watson, I agree, that's what I said in my commentary, secular women specifically believe, 'this is my body and leave me alone.' I do not agree when it comes to the child in the womb. However, if a man has gotten involved with a secular woman then he gets the full impact of her ungodly decisions.<br />
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Let us hope that righteous men are not joining themselves together with unbelieving women so that this should be a non-issue for them. ,Afterall, Christian women believe in keeping the child in the womb.<br />
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Oh, one more thing, if a male who is unemployed with no foreseeable income gives input to a secular woman, she is just naturally going to bypass anything he has to say, see what I mean? Afterall, diapers cost money. That's women's lib and femini…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-23:916966:Comment:10609322009-10-23T00:32:05.383ZMin. Jacksonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MinJackson
That's women's lib and feminism for you. Forget the man, because I am the boss over my body. Not every man wants to see their baby terminated, but what can you do if the women insist on abortion? Take her to court, that's what you do.
That's women's lib and feminism for you. Forget the man, because I am the boss over my body. Not every man wants to see their baby terminated, but what can you do if the women insist on abortion? Take her to court, that's what you do. That argument is often ignore…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-22:916966:Comment:10608232009-10-22T23:56:10.568ZArchbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greenehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ArchbishopTrevorElihu
That argument is often ignored, Bro Watson!!
That argument is often ignored, Bro Watson!! Hi Pastor Valentine yes, the…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-21:916966:Comment:10587082009-10-21T16:03:21.269ZMs. Elaine Johnsonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MsElaineJohnson
Hi Pastor Valentine yes, the message of 'abortion' should be vehemently preached to those committing abortions and that is, women, as well as the men who sometimes forces them to commit abortion.<br />
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Yeah adoption is a viable option. Women's self-esteem must be built via letting them no their true worth in Christ. Not only, their true worth but the true worth of the unborn.…
Hi Pastor Valentine yes, the message of 'abortion' should be vehemently preached to those committing abortions and that is, women, as well as the men who sometimes forces them to commit abortion.<br />
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Yeah adoption is a viable option. Women's self-esteem must be built via letting them no their true worth in Christ. Not only, their true worth but the true worth of the unborn.<br />
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