ARE THERE CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE? - Black Preaching Network2024-03-28T09:52:10Zhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/are-there-contradictions-in?commentId=916966%3AComment%3A3947396&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThank you Min. Victor. I jus…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-06-11:916966:Comment:40084242012-06-11T13:19:02.753ZMrs. Denise Joneshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/denisesldd
<p>Thank you Min. Victor. I just trust the Lord with all my heart and lean not to my own understanding when it comes to my faith and how I act upon it. The scriptures have pointed me in the direction to live a holy and acceptable life and promise of life eternity with the Father. But through my own disobedience and hardend heart, I have at times done my own thing. And when I look back over my life and see what the scriptures had already forewarned me about and how I disobeyed - led me in…</p>
<p>Thank you Min. Victor. I just trust the Lord with all my heart and lean not to my own understanding when it comes to my faith and how I act upon it. The scriptures have pointed me in the direction to live a holy and acceptable life and promise of life eternity with the Father. But through my own disobedience and hardend heart, I have at times done my own thing. And when I look back over my life and see what the scriptures had already forewarned me about and how I disobeyed - led me in the direction of death. But God and His LOVE, grace and mercy has allowed me another chance to do it right. I know the scriptures has EVERY directive for all of Gods children, but if we only obeyed....but there still is that rebellious Isrealite spirit...they were so very hardheaded and disobedient, but God LOVED them so much as He does today, but that seed of disobedience from mans first fall is still running amock, but just like satan tricked Eve, which led to Adams disobedience...man is still tricking people into not believing Gods word with trickery. Even causing disobedience even with God walking with Him in spirit and the truth of His word, because man dares to obey. I just reverence the Lord and want to do what please Him. Obedience.</p>
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<p>In Love Sister Denise</p> Smiling Brother Anthony, but…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-06-11:916966:Comment:40082032012-06-11T12:59:22.298ZMrs. Denise Joneshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/denisesldd
<p>Smiling Brother Anthony, but I can't but wonder about what you were trying to say when you say "If I were to build it on the Bible alone, the cotradictions would indeed shake me to my core, as they do with quite a few people, but if the foundation of my faith is Christ alone, and my relationship based on His personage, then no contradiction that I may find, and there are many, can shake me its not a house of cards but rather a strong house built on a firm foundation. And considering how some…</p>
<p>Smiling Brother Anthony, but I can't but wonder about what you were trying to say when you say "If I were to build it on the Bible alone, the cotradictions would indeed shake me to my core, as they do with quite a few people, but if the foundation of my faith is Christ alone, and my relationship based on His personage, then no contradiction that I may find, and there are many, can shake me its not a house of cards but rather a strong house built on a firm foundation. And considering how some eisegete rather than exegete the Bible, I would rather depend on him". How can you depend on Christ? Is not the Holy Scriptures where you learned of Him? Or whoever taught you about Him got their information? If so, is it that you too are extracting information according to what you want to believe? I am just asking how can we say we only believe in the parts we understand, or want to understand that doesn't interfer in our way of thinking? Yes, there is alot of rhetoric going on...but OUR God is bigger than them, that, they etc. And His truths will prevail not matter how twisted many try to make it. Without faith it is impossible to even PLEASE God, so how do we displease Him? With disrepect as making Him a mere man equal to man, God forbid. He is ALL MIGHTY and NO man could ever erase anything that God intends. It is the Holy Scriptures that we shall know the mind of God and we can't align up with Him if one do not believe even His written word that He inspired man to write. We must believe that HE is and His promise of the Holy Spirit to lead and guide us to ALL truths and we would not know this information if it were not for the Holy Scriptures. Then one goes else where in the scriptures and extract something not likeable and say it's contraditing. God said It, I believe It and that settles It for me. I trust the spirit of the Lord to bring me understanding to His word as I study to show myself approved.</p>
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<p>In Love Sister Denise</p> Not denying the word just bei…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-06-09:916966:Comment:39473962012-06-09T06:31:28.485ZJonathan Anthonyhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/JonathanAnthony
<p>Not denying the word just being intellectually honest, gone are the days when we as ministers can ignore what is there in favor of religious rhetoric.Notice Christ stated that denying Him was rough, He said nothing about consequences of pointing out contradictions. He never granted infallability to the Bible, we did that. your definition is incomplete:</p>
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<div class="scnt"><span class="ssens"><strong>:</strong> to assert the…</span></div>
<p>Not denying the word just being intellectually honest, gone are the days when we as ministers can ignore what is there in favor of religious rhetoric.Notice Christ stated that denying Him was rough, He said nothing about consequences of pointing out contradictions. He never granted infallability to the Bible, we did that. your definition is incomplete:</p>
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<div class="scnt"><span class="ssens"><strong>:</strong> to imply the opposite or a denial of <span class="vi"><your actions <em>contradict</em> your words></span></span></div>
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<div class="scnt"><span class="ssens">For example on a subject I am currently studying:Rom. 16:7 mentions Junia a female of whom</span></div>
<div class="scnt"><span class="ssens">Paul says is notable among the Apostles, however in other texts Paul seems to teach against female leadership in the church... An obvious contradiction, unless you do more than a cursory reading of the texts. But I leave that to you Once again faith not built on te Bible but on Christ, because of my trust in Him, I can believe His story, not the other way around </span></div>
</div> I hear and see lots of religi…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-06-09:916966:Comment:39472852012-06-09T06:16:54.791ZJonathan Anthonyhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/JonathanAnthony
<p>I hear and see lots of religious rhetoric in your supposition, however here is why I still teach from it. I do not believe in Jesus because of the Bible, rather I believe the Bible because of Jesus. The obvious contradictions take nothng away from the story of Christ. I did not marry my wife because of her story,her story takes nothing away from who she is. So it is that the Bible is not the foundation of my faith, Jesus is.</p>
<p>If I were to build it on the Bible alone, the cotradictions…</p>
<p>I hear and see lots of religious rhetoric in your supposition, however here is why I still teach from it. I do not believe in Jesus because of the Bible, rather I believe the Bible because of Jesus. The obvious contradictions take nothng away from the story of Christ. I did not marry my wife because of her story,her story takes nothing away from who she is. So it is that the Bible is not the foundation of my faith, Jesus is.</p>
<p>If I were to build it on the Bible alone, the cotradictions would indeed shake me to my core, as they do with quite a few people, but if the foundation of my faith is Christ alone, and my relationship based on His personage, then no contradiction that I may find, and there are many, can shake me its not a house of cards but rather a strong house built on a firm foundation. And considering how some eisegete rather than exegete the Bible, I would rather depend on him..</p> If you are an Evangelist, wha…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-06-08:916966:Comment:39403822012-06-08T22:47:44.491ZMINISTER LAWRENCE VICTORhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MINISTERLAWRENCEVICTOR
<p>If you are an Evangelist, what bible do you preach from?????My God in heaven! Why preach what you feel is NOT true(The Holy Bible) to ANYONE, aren't you CONTRADICTING yourself as a minister of GOD, but, deny HIS Word. The definition for contradiction is: DIFFERENCE, OPPOSITE, (look it up). So, if to YOU it is a book of contradictions, you really shouldn't preach or teach from it. WRITE WHAT YOU FEEL IS TRUE! NOBODY will STOP you, just do it.</p>
<p>If you are an Evangelist, what bible do you preach from?????My God in heaven! Why preach what you feel is NOT true(The Holy Bible) to ANYONE, aren't you CONTRADICTING yourself as a minister of GOD, but, deny HIS Word. The definition for contradiction is: DIFFERENCE, OPPOSITE, (look it up). So, if to YOU it is a book of contradictions, you really shouldn't preach or teach from it. WRITE WHAT YOU FEEL IS TRUE! NOBODY will STOP you, just do it.</p> Amen. That is so true Pastor…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-06-08:916966:Comment:39400212012-06-08T22:31:10.320ZMINISTER LAWRENCE VICTORhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MINISTERLAWRENCEVICTOR
<p>Amen. That is so true Pastor King. Be blessed in our Lord Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>Amen. That is so true Pastor King. Be blessed in our Lord Jesus Christ.</p> My question to those that bel…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-06-08:916966:Comment:39399402012-06-08T22:28:23.201ZMINISTER LAWRENCE VICTORhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MINISTERLAWRENCEVICTOR
<p>My question to those that believe that The Holy Bible have contradictions in it. Why do you teach and/or preach from it??????????? Write your OWN book, then teach and preach from it, YOUR VERSION OF THE TRUTH, that's what the devil did, no one will STOP you!!! Why study a book on science or math with the wrong information in it???? IT WOULD BE STUPID TO CONTINUE IN IT!!!!!!!! If one jot or tittle in The Holy Bible is a LIE, that would pollute the WHOLE book(The Holy Bible) from being The…</p>
<p>My question to those that believe that The Holy Bible have contradictions in it. Why do you teach and/or preach from it??????????? Write your OWN book, then teach and preach from it, YOUR VERSION OF THE TRUTH, that's what the devil did, no one will STOP you!!! Why study a book on science or math with the wrong information in it???? IT WOULD BE STUPID TO CONTINUE IN IT!!!!!!!! If one jot or tittle in The Holy Bible is a LIE, that would pollute the WHOLE book(The Holy Bible) from being The Word of God who is ALL TRUTH. WHERE IS YOUR FAITH IN THE LIVING GOD and HIS ability through HIS Spirit to influence ANY individual in HIS universe to write The Truth as HE(GOD) instruct them to write???????????????</p> Greetings Sister Denise! I LO…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-06-08:916966:Comment:39395362012-06-08T21:59:42.192ZMINISTER LAWRENCE VICTORhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MINISTERLAWRENCEVICTOR
<p>Greetings Sister Denise! I LOVE the way you broke this message down, and sum it up, with The Word of God that even a babe-n-CHRIST would understand it. I couldn't have done a better job myself, may our LORD and SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST continue to bless you with HIS Spirit(The Holy Ghost), and the love of CHRIST, which pass knowledge, that you might be filled with ALL the fulness of God(Ephesians 3: 9-21). NO, I DO NOT believe that ANY of The Holy Bible, which IS The Living Word of God to us in…</p>
<p>Greetings Sister Denise! I LOVE the way you broke this message down, and sum it up, with The Word of God that even a babe-n-CHRIST would understand it. I couldn't have done a better job myself, may our LORD and SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST continue to bless you with HIS Spirit(The Holy Ghost), and the love of CHRIST, which pass knowledge, that you might be filled with ALL the fulness of God(Ephesians 3: 9-21). NO, I DO NOT believe that ANY of The Holy Bible, which IS The Living Word of God to us in America have ANY contradictions in it. I believe in The Living Word of God with ALL of my heart, soul, and mind, GREAT JOB sister! Be blessed my sister-n-CHRIST.......:-)).</p> Greetings Evangelist Alim:
Co…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-12-21:916966:Comment:28095502011-12-21T20:58:05.582ZLovitha M, Whittington Sheltonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/LovithaMarieWhittingtonShelto
<p>Greetings Evangelist Alim:</p>
<p>Contradiction = the act of going against; opposition; denial; a declaration of the opposite or contrary; a statement that is at variance with itself; conflict or inconsistency, as between events, qualities, etc.; a person or thing containing conflicting qualities; (Philosophy / Logic) <i>Logic</i> a statement that is false under all circumstances; necessary falsehood.</p>
<p>Yes, there are <strong>inconsistencies</strong> between events written by man in the…</p>
<p>Greetings Evangelist Alim:</p>
<p>Contradiction = the act of going against; opposition; denial; a declaration of the opposite or contrary; a statement that is at variance with itself; conflict or inconsistency, as between events, qualities, etc.; a person or thing containing conflicting qualities; (Philosophy / Logic) <i>Logic</i> a statement that is false under all circumstances; necessary falsehood.</p>
<p>Yes, there are <strong>inconsistencies</strong> between events written by man in the Bible. However, I do not believe that there is anything, from Genesis to Revelation, that is in opposition of the overall message God wants us to understand. Example: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John were together with Jesus Christ during most of the miracles, signs, and wonders that Jesus manifested. Yet, they each had their way of telling the story. Their backgrounds were the keys to the 'how'. Their individual paradigm (A set of assumptions, concepts, values, and practices that constitutes a way of viewing reality for the community that shares them, especially in an intellectual discipline) was different.</p>
<p>Another example: You and I can hear the same preacher, getting the subject/title exactly the same and getting the emphasis scripture the same. However, we will walk away with a different message according to what we need, according to where we are, and according to the defining factors. I may go home with that message to 'fit' my household. You may go home and 'fit' that message to your neighbor/neighborhood, etc.</p>
<p>"All the paths of the Lord <em>are</em> mercy and truth unto such as keep His covenant and His testimonies." <em>Psalm 25:10</em></p> No ............even though it…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-11-15:916966:Comment:27509432011-11-15T16:00:56.959ZGerald Rollinsonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/BUNNIEROLLINSON36
No ............even though it would appear so. It is just like when you have the same incident from several different people.......they all have a different version so to speak but are telling it as they saw it. That is why we study to show ourselves approved and allow the Spirit to give us revelation and understanding. Some are just their opinions and some is direct from the Lord that is why he says RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD.
No ............even though it would appear so. It is just like when you have the same incident from several different people.......they all have a different version so to speak but are telling it as they saw it. That is why we study to show ourselves approved and allow the Spirit to give us revelation and understanding. Some are just their opinions and some is direct from the Lord that is why he says RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD.