Can Jesus Christ Return at ANY MOMENT? Part 1
The second coming of Christ! Can it really happen tomorrow? Or, how about right now….at this very moment? Is it possible? Well, contrary to what most Christians believe, Christ’s second coming, or, “the rapture“, as some call it, cannot happen tomorrow. Nor can it happen this very second. Yes, you read correctly! It’s impossible!! Christ’s second return (Please note the scriptures ONLY speak of a 2nd return, not a 3rd or a 4th.) can ONLY happen if the signs that God has given us in His word have taken place. Now with that said, as of the writing of this lesson; 9 Jun 2009, I can say without any doubt in my mind…make that, I can guarantee, that Christ’s return WILL NOT happen any sooner than 9 Jun 2012!! That’s right!!! I said I can guarantee IT!! And the scriptures will prove it !!
So do I have your attention yet? Good!! That’s what I was hoping for. Now before you start calling me a blasphemer and a whole bunch of other names, please hear me out and read this entire lesson. I am not crazy! And no, I am not dealing with any secret codes hidden in the bible. The truth I am about to share with you is clearly written in the Holy Scriptures. And the scriptures clearly states that certain events MUST take place before the coming of the Lord. And until those events happen, Jesus CAN NOT RETURN!!! Why? Because, it is “…impossible for God to lie…”, Heb 6:18.
As church going families, I’m sure we all have been taught that Jesus’ second coming could happen any day now…even any second. And I must admit, for a long time I was living with the fear that, at any moment Christ could come back to earth to pass judgment on us all. But is the ‘any day rapture’ doctrine supported by the Holy Scripture? Does the bible really teach that Christ’s second return could happen at any second, without any warning or signs whatsoever? Is that what your doctrine teaches? Let’s not forget where ALL of our doctrine is to come from;
All scriptures is given by the inspiration of God, and is profitable for DOCTRINE, for REPROOF, for CORRECTION, for instruction in righteousness:”, II Tim 3:16.
The purpose of this lesson is to (1); recognize and understand the signs and warnings given to us that must precede Christ’s second coming, and (2); look at the timeline of the events to take place before His second coming.
Now, as always, please…before we get started, go and get your Bible, DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR ANYTHING! Take your time, study and read this lesson for yourself and do as Paul says, “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.”, I Thess 5:21. This is a good one.
Signs and Warnings: The Abomination of Desolation
Why is it, most Christians either ignore or, just not have been made aware of, the many warnings given to us by the prophets, apostles and Jesus Christ Himself concerning His second coming. After all, who better would know more about these upcoming events than Jesus and the disciples he told directly? Throughout the entire bible, even as far back as Genesis, God gives us many warnings and clues’ concerning Christ’s second coming. But it is obvious those clues have gone unnoticed.
If the pastors had given the church the warnings given throughout the entire bible, what we have today, known as the ‘rapture theory’ would not exist.
Let’s read some of those warnings for ourselves and see if the ‘any moment rapture’ doctrine is supported by scriptures. We will start with what is probably, the most important warning Christ ever gave to His church, and reiterated later by His disciples, yet most Christians are totally unaware of it. Let’s read about this ‘abomination of desolation’ Jesus speaks of.
In the 24th chapter of the book of Matthew, Jesus’ disciples asked the question, ‘When the end of the world would be and what will be the sign of His coming?’ After first telling them to let no man deceive them, something that has undoubtedly occurred, and several other warnings, Jesus went on to say this:
Matt 24:15. When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken
of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him
understand:)
Now Jesus would not have given us this warning unless there was something in the book of Daniel, that would let us know who, or how, to recognize this person He calls the Abomination of Desolation. Because whomever he is, he must play a pretty important role in Christ second coming. It should also be noted that during Jesus time, there was no New Testament. The Old Testament was the only scripture available that He could refer them to for finding the information He spoke of. So for those that believe the OT no longer applies to our lives today, you are sadly mistaken. For in them lies many answers to future events.
The closest phrase found to the ‘abomination of desolation’ referred to in the 24th chapter of Matthew, is found in the 11th chapter of book of Daniel. Let’s read what we can find out about this person, the ‘abomination of desolation’. Let’s also not forget, these are all future events Christ’s directs us to read and understand, leading to His the 2nd coming.
Dan 11:31. And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of
strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination
that maketh desolate.
Now to be perfectly honest, the above verse is a little vague, but there is some information we can use to find out more. What we can make out of this verse is that, (1) the abomination that maketh desolate will be placed, or set up somewhere, (2) the sanctuary will be polluted, and (3) the daily sacrifice will be taken away. Let’s search the scriptures, like it instructs us, and find more information.
If we read a little above, in verse 27, we find that the abomination being spoken of is actually one of two kings;
Dan 11:27. And both of these kings hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time of the appointed.
So now we know that the abomination of desolation is referred to as a ‘king’ . Now let’s continue past the 31st verse to verse 36, still speaking about the abomination of desolation, and find what Daniel has to say about this ‘king’.
Dan 11:36. And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt
himself, and magnify himself above every god, and he shall speak marvelous things
against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished:
37. Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women,
nor any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
Now we are learning a little more information about this ‘abomination of desolation’, which I will refer to as the (AOD). We now know that he will do whatever he will, or have complete control, and that he will exalt and magnify himself above all gods. Let’s search the NT to see if we can find a similar description for an individual;
II Thes 2:3. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except
there comes a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4. Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is
worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself
that he is God.
Here we find in the NT the same individual described in the OT, let’s compare;
OT: Dan 11:36. “…and he shall exalt himself…above every god…”
NT: II Thes 2:3. “…and exalteth himself above all that is called God…”
OT: Dan 11:37. “…for he shall magnify himself above all.”
NT: II Thes 2:4. “…shewing himself that he is God.”
Again let’s go back to the book of Daniel for more information about the AOD.
Dan 7:21. I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed
against them.
Dan 7:25. And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall
wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws.
And again in the NT:
Rev 13:6. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme
his name,…
Rev 13:7. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to
overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues,
and nations.
Let’s compare the two again:
OT: Dan 7:21. “…the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed
against them.”
NT: Rev 13:7. “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to
overcome them…”
OT: Dan 11:36. “…And the king shall do according to his will…”
NT: Rev 13:7. “…and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues,
and nations…”
OT: Dan 7:25. “…And he shall speak great words against the most High.…”
NT: Rev 13:6. “… And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God…”
At this point we can say, without a doubt, the person we have been describing in the OT and NT is the same person. For there can be only one person that will do ALL of the following: (1) exalt himself above all that is called God, (2) make war with the saints and prevail against them, (3) do according to his will, and (4) have power over ALL kindreds, tongues and nations. The person we have been describing is the “Abomination of Desolation” Jesus warned us about in the 24th chapter of Matthew. Let’s look at a few more very important verses to prove we are describing the same individual.
Dan 7:8. I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
Dan 7:20. And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
21. I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
So now we have just tied in another fact: the AOD is also referred to as a ‘horn’. The same horn that made war with the saints and prevailed against them, was also the little horn that had the look of a man; with eyes and a mouth and spake great things. Let’s look at one last description.
Let’s read again the first warning we found in the OT about the AOD.
Dan 11:31. And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary
of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the
abomination that maketh desolate.
The part of the verse to concentrate on is,
“…and shall take away the daily sacrifice,…”
Let’s read this same description in another verse.
Dan 8:9. And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
11. Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him
the daily sacrifice was taken away…
Once again, the AOD is referred to as a horn. Actually what we have is a very important piece of information. Let’s read again what the AOD or, “little horn” will one day do;
“…and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away…”
So why is this one sign so important you may ask? Well, there have been many that have said marvelous things against the God of gods, or have even said they were God. And there have been many that have tried to rule or take over the world. But what makes this sign so special is that it is something that has not taken place in over 1,300 years. There has not been one official sacrifice offered at the temple in Jerusalem since the completion of the Dome of the Rock in 691a.d. This is the one sign that will set the stage for all of the events to happen prior to Christ second coming.
What God is telling us, through His servant Daniel, is that there will be a time when the daily sacrifices will be taken away. But what sacrifices could He be talking about? There are no ‘daily sacrifices’ being offered at the temple in Jerusalem today. And that is correct, there are no daily sacrifices being offered at the temple. Not yet!!! So what can this mean? Quite simply, in order for the daily sacrifices to be taken away…at some point they must once again be started. Understand what I just said. I’m going to say that one more time: IN ORDER FOR THE DAILY SACRIFICES TO BE TAKEN AWAY, THEY MUST FIRST BE STARTED. REMEMBER IT!! IF YOU REMEMBER NOTHING ELSE YOU READ, REMEMBER THIS ONE THING!!! And trust me, if you go to, ‘The Temple Institute’ web site, you will find that the preparation to begin the ‘daily sacrifices‘, is well on it’s way. It’s going to happen!
We have searched quite a few scriptures about the AOD, so before moving on to the timeline of the upcoming events, let’s review all of the information God has provided for us concerning this man, the “Abomination of Desolation”.
We know he will call himself great, even above the God of gods:
OT: Dan 11:36. “…and he shall exalt himself…above every god…”
NT: II Thes 2:3. “…and exalteth himself above all that is called God…”
OT: Dan 11:37. “…for he shall magnify himself above all.”
NT: II Thes 2:4. “…shewing himself that he is God.”
We know he will wage war with the saints and win:
OT: Dan 7:21. “…the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed
against them.”
NT: Rev 13:7. “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to
overcome them…”
We know he will have complete control:
OT: Dan 11:36. “…And the king shall do according to his will…”
NT: Rev 13:7. “…and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues,
and nations…”
We know he is referred to as a ‘king’ and as a ‘horn’.
OT: Dan 7:21. “I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints…”
OT: Dan 11:36. “And the king shall do according to his will…”
And finally, we know he will take away the ‘daily sacrifices’.
OT: Dan 11:31. And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary
of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the
abomination that maketh desolate.
OT: Dan 8:11. Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him
the daily sacrifice was taken away…
What we now have are the signs to help identify the “The Abomination of Desolation”; that Christ, the prophet Daniel and the apostle John warned us about. And by searching the scriptures, we now understand, just as Jesus said; “…whoso readeth, let him understand:…” Now that we have a way of telling who this individual is, we can now look at the timeline he will be operating on.
So do I have your attention yet? Good!! That’s what I was hoping for. Now before you start calling me a blasphemer and a whole bunch of other names, please hear me out and read this entire lesson. I am not crazy! And no, I am not dealing with any secret codes hidden in the bible. The truth I am about to share with you is clearly written in the Holy Scriptures. And the scriptures clearly states that certain events MUST take place before the coming of the Lord. And until those events happen, Jesus CAN NOT RETURN!!! Why? Because, it is “…impossible for God to lie…”, Heb 6:18.
As church going families, I’m sure we all have been taught that Jesus’ second coming could happen any day now…even any second. And I must admit, for a long time I was living with the fear that, at any moment Christ could come back to earth to pass judgment on us all. But is the ‘any day rapture’ doctrine supported by the Holy Scripture? Does the bible really teach that Christ’s second return could happen at any second, without any warning or signs whatsoever? Is that what your doctrine teaches? Let’s not forget where ALL of our doctrine is to come from;
All scriptures is given by the inspiration of God, and is profitable for DOCTRINE, for REPROOF, for CORRECTION, for instruction in righteousness:”, II Tim 3:16.
The purpose of this lesson is to (1); recognize and understand the signs and warnings given to us that must precede Christ’s second coming, and (2); look at the timeline of the events to take place before His second coming.
Now, as always, please…before we get started, go and get your Bible, DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR ANYTHING! Take your time, study and read this lesson for yourself and do as Paul says, “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.”, I Thess 5:21. This is a good one.
Signs and Warnings: The Abomination of Desolation
Why is it, most Christians either ignore or, just not have been made aware of, the many warnings given to us by the prophets, apostles and Jesus Christ Himself concerning His second coming. After all, who better would know more about these upcoming events than Jesus and the disciples he told directly? Throughout the entire bible, even as far back as Genesis, God gives us many warnings and clues’ concerning Christ’s second coming. But it is obvious those clues have gone unnoticed.
If the pastors had given the church the warnings given throughout the entire bible, what we have today, known as the ‘rapture theory’ would not exist.
Let’s read some of those warnings for ourselves and see if the ‘any moment rapture’ doctrine is supported by scriptures. We will start with what is probably, the most important warning Christ ever gave to His church, and reiterated later by His disciples, yet most Christians are totally unaware of it. Let’s read about this ‘abomination of desolation’ Jesus speaks of.
In the 24th chapter of the book of Matthew, Jesus’ disciples asked the question, ‘When the end of the world would be and what will be the sign of His coming?’ After first telling them to let no man deceive them, something that has undoubtedly occurred, and several other warnings, Jesus went on to say this:
Matt 24:15. When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken
of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him
understand:)
Now Jesus would not have given us this warning unless there was something in the book of Daniel, that would let us know who, or how, to recognize this person He calls the Abomination of Desolation. Because whomever he is, he must play a pretty important role in Christ second coming. It should also be noted that during Jesus time, there was no New Testament. The Old Testament was the only scripture available that He could refer them to for finding the information He spoke of. So for those that believe the OT no longer applies to our lives today, you are sadly mistaken. For in them lies many answers to future events.
The closest phrase found to the ‘abomination of desolation’ referred to in the 24th chapter of Matthew, is found in the 11th chapter of book of Daniel. Let’s read what we can find out about this person, the ‘abomination of desolation’. Let’s also not forget, these are all future events Christ’s directs us to read and understand, leading to His the 2nd coming.
Dan 11:31. And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of
strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination
that maketh desolate.
Now to be perfectly honest, the above verse is a little vague, but there is some information we can use to find out more. What we can make out of this verse is that, (1) the abomination that maketh desolate will be placed, or set up somewhere, (2) the sanctuary will be polluted, and (3) the daily sacrifice will be taken away. Let’s search the scriptures, like it instructs us, and find more information.
If we read a little above, in verse 27, we find that the abomination being spoken of is actually one of two kings;
Dan 11:27. And both of these kings hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time of the appointed.
So now we know that the abomination of desolation is referred to as a ‘king’ . Now let’s continue past the 31st verse to verse 36, still speaking about the abomination of desolation, and find what Daniel has to say about this ‘king’.
Dan 11:36. And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt
himself, and magnify himself above every god, and he shall speak marvelous things
against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished:
37. Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women,
nor any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
Now we are learning a little more information about this ‘abomination of desolation’, which I will refer to as the (AOD). We now know that he will do whatever he will, or have complete control, and that he will exalt and magnify himself above all gods. Let’s search the NT to see if we can find a similar description for an individual;
II Thes 2:3. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except
there comes a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4. Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is
worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself
that he is God.
Here we find in the NT the same individual described in the OT, let’s compare;
OT: Dan 11:36. “…and he shall exalt himself…above every god…”
NT: II Thes 2:3. “…and exalteth himself above all that is called God…”
OT: Dan 11:37. “…for he shall magnify himself above all.”
NT: II Thes 2:4. “…shewing himself that he is God.”
Again let’s go back to the book of Daniel for more information about the AOD.
Dan 7:21. I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed
against them.
Dan 7:25. And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall
wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws.
And again in the NT:
Rev 13:6. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme
his name,…
Rev 13:7. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to
overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues,
and nations.
Let’s compare the two again:
OT: Dan 7:21. “…the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed
against them.”
NT: Rev 13:7. “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to
overcome them…”
OT: Dan 11:36. “…And the king shall do according to his will…”
NT: Rev 13:7. “…and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues,
and nations…”
OT: Dan 7:25. “…And he shall speak great words against the most High.…”
NT: Rev 13:6. “… And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God…”
At this point we can say, without a doubt, the person we have been describing in the OT and NT is the same person. For there can be only one person that will do ALL of the following: (1) exalt himself above all that is called God, (2) make war with the saints and prevail against them, (3) do according to his will, and (4) have power over ALL kindreds, tongues and nations. The person we have been describing is the “Abomination of Desolation” Jesus warned us about in the 24th chapter of Matthew. Let’s look at a few more very important verses to prove we are describing the same individual.
Dan 7:8. I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
Dan 7:20. And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
21. I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
So now we have just tied in another fact: the AOD is also referred to as a ‘horn’. The same horn that made war with the saints and prevailed against them, was also the little horn that had the look of a man; with eyes and a mouth and spake great things. Let’s look at one last description.
Let’s read again the first warning we found in the OT about the AOD.
Dan 11:31. And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary
of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the
abomination that maketh desolate.
The part of the verse to concentrate on is,
“…and shall take away the daily sacrifice,…”
Let’s read this same description in another verse.
Dan 8:9. And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
11. Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him
the daily sacrifice was taken away…
Once again, the AOD is referred to as a horn. Actually what we have is a very important piece of information. Let’s read again what the AOD or, “little horn” will one day do;
“…and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away…”
So why is this one sign so important you may ask? Well, there have been many that have said marvelous things against the God of gods, or have even said they were God. And there have been many that have tried to rule or take over the world. But what makes this sign so special is that it is something that has not taken place in over 1,300 years. There has not been one official sacrifice offered at the temple in Jerusalem since the completion of the Dome of the Rock in 691a.d. This is the one sign that will set the stage for all of the events to happen prior to Christ second coming.
What God is telling us, through His servant Daniel, is that there will be a time when the daily sacrifices will be taken away. But what sacrifices could He be talking about? There are no ‘daily sacrifices’ being offered at the temple in Jerusalem today. And that is correct, there are no daily sacrifices being offered at the temple. Not yet!!! So what can this mean? Quite simply, in order for the daily sacrifices to be taken away…at some point they must once again be started. Understand what I just said. I’m going to say that one more time: IN ORDER FOR THE DAILY SACRIFICES TO BE TAKEN AWAY, THEY MUST FIRST BE STARTED. REMEMBER IT!! IF YOU REMEMBER NOTHING ELSE YOU READ, REMEMBER THIS ONE THING!!! And trust me, if you go to, ‘The Temple Institute’ web site, you will find that the preparation to begin the ‘daily sacrifices‘, is well on it’s way. It’s going to happen!
We have searched quite a few scriptures about the AOD, so before moving on to the timeline of the upcoming events, let’s review all of the information God has provided for us concerning this man, the “Abomination of Desolation”.
We know he will call himself great, even above the God of gods:
OT: Dan 11:36. “…and he shall exalt himself…above every god…”
NT: II Thes 2:3. “…and exalteth himself above all that is called God…”
OT: Dan 11:37. “…for he shall magnify himself above all.”
NT: II Thes 2:4. “…shewing himself that he is God.”
We know he will wage war with the saints and win:
OT: Dan 7:21. “…the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed
against them.”
NT: Rev 13:7. “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to
overcome them…”
We know he will have complete control:
OT: Dan 11:36. “…And the king shall do according to his will…”
NT: Rev 13:7. “…and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues,
and nations…”
We know he is referred to as a ‘king’ and as a ‘horn’.
OT: Dan 7:21. “I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints…”
OT: Dan 11:36. “And the king shall do according to his will…”
And finally, we know he will take away the ‘daily sacrifices’.
OT: Dan 11:31. And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary
of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the
abomination that maketh desolate.
OT: Dan 8:11. Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him
the daily sacrifice was taken away…
What we now have are the signs to help identify the “The Abomination of Desolation”; that Christ, the prophet Daniel and the apostle John warned us about. And by searching the scriptures, we now understand, just as Jesus said; “…whoso readeth, let him understand:…” Now that we have a way of telling who this individual is, we can now look at the timeline he will be operating on.
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Permalink Reply by James Pierce on
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NO! He cannot
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Permalink Reply by Scott R. Newman on
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Of course Jesus isn't coming back right now or any day now, cause this hasn't been fulfilled:
Rev 7:9 "After these things I saw, and behold, a great multitude, which no man could number, out of every nation and of all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, arrayed in white robes, and palms in their hands;"
Since there are still over 3,200 people groups on the earth representing over 200 million tribes and tongues who have not heard of Christ's first trip to the world.
Mat 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world for a testimony unto all the nations; and then shall the end come".
The work has not been completed yet for those willing to go to the nations to spread the Gospel for the whole world to have the oppurtunity to accept or to reject Christ and until that happens Christ will not return!
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Permalink Reply by Superintendent Elijah Marshall on
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Praise the Lord, I agree to everything said pretty much. Yes, Christ COULD come back at anytime, because He's God and in His sovereignty, He can do whatsoever He pleases, except it contradict His Word... but NO, He's not coming back right now or tomorrow... because all things have not yet been fulfilled as Scott said earlier.. But, thank God tho... Cuz that gives us time to get this thing right 4real! Get saved 4real! Witness 4real! And get busy doing what God told us to do, and quit looking for excuses why not to obey...
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Pastor E
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Permalink Reply by N'ZI Amani Germain on
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Brother,
Do you want to know the truth about the return of Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?
Please, consult the link below:
http://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/916966:Topic:178085
http://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/916966:Topic:115749?page=...
Bro. Germain
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Permalink Reply by Eccl. 12:13 on
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Were is the truth in a bunch of words from a man? Where are the scriptures? What was even trying to be said? Here is the truth about the second coming of Christ:
1. Christ CANNOT come until AFTER the Tribulation Period.
2. A Temple must be built and sacrifices started, BEFORE Christs' returns.
3. A MAN must be placed in the temple that is built and declares himself god.
4. That same man will stop the daily sacrifice after 3.5 years.
5. That same man will cause a mark to be taken.
6. Those that do not accept that mark will not be able to buy or sell.
7. Six trumpets will sound BEFORE Christ 2nd coming.
8. At the sounding of the 7th trump will Christ return.
Now THAT is the truth about Christs' 2nd coming. And ALL of the above can be backed by God's Holy word.
I have no idea what it trying to be said in the link you provided.
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Yeshua shall return after the tribulation period(Matt 24)
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umm... are yall saying that the church will go through the tribulation period, during the reign of the Anti-christ?? if so, that's false teaching... the Church will NOT suffer the tribulation period, neither endure the wrath of the Anti-Christ; only those left behind after the Rapture will endure the reign of the Anti-Christ; when Jesus comes back the last time, that being the 3rd time He will destroy the Anti-christ, the enemies of Israel, setup His kingdom in Jerusalem, and reign there forever more in what is referred to as the New Heaven and New Earth, and we will reign and live with Him forever...
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Did you read ALL 3 Parts of this lesson? Again, PROVE to me, from the scriptures, that Christ comes back BEFORE the sounding of the 7th trumpet?
If it's in the bible it should be easy to find. Remember now, Book, Chapter and verse that says Jesus will return BEFORE the sounding of the 7th trumpet!
Better yet....PROVE that what you call the 'rapture' is a seperate event from Jesus 2nd return.
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Elijah,
Yes, we will go through it. The doctrine of the pre-trib rapture was over 120 years old. It was started, and widely preached around the 1830s by J.N Darby, and also Edward Irving. Before these guys, the post trib rapture was the dominant teaching---that the church will endure the tribulation period, and Yeshua will rescue us after the tribulation.
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Permalink Reply by Evangelist Altha Fugett on
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Elijah, I agree with you that the church (body of Christ) will not go through the tribulation as I understand the scripture....,
however I have never heard of a third coming either, are you speaking of this time in
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
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Evan,
Do you have any proof that the Church will not be here during the tribulation from Yeshua's lips?
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Not from his lips, but from Paul's?
2 Thessalonians 2:1-8: "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed…"
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