Can We as Christians not take a stand for the Gospel truth? Or do we just go along to get along?? - Black Preaching Network2024-03-29T01:35:22Zhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/can-we-as-christians-not-take-a-stand-for-the-gospel-truth-or-do?commentId=916966%3AComment%3A4346579&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSis Cynthia, I went back and…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-11-05:916966:Comment:49080862012-11-05T04:52:56.443ZElder C. Leehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MinisterClintonLee
<p>Sis Cynthia, I went back and was reading through this topic and I reread your post. Please explain with more detail how your post answers the original question. Did you realize that you skipped the question entirely? I look forward to your response.</p>
<p>Sis Cynthia, I went back and was reading through this topic and I reread your post. Please explain with more detail how your post answers the original question. Did you realize that you skipped the question entirely? I look forward to your response.</p> @newview - I am so sorry abou…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-08-22:916966:Comment:43603902012-08-22T02:13:33.694ZElder C. Leehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MinisterClintonLee
<p>@newview - I am so sorry about where this discussion has gone, I was not trying to get you to choose a party in this forum they are both filled with men...some of them are bad and other not so bad....my original question which started this dialogue was how do we as believers in Christ Jesus and His Word....embrace the platform of same sex marriage? I am unsure how we started dealing with just the politics of this issue because politics do not belong to God....they are of man. When I asked…</p>
<p>@newview - I am so sorry about where this discussion has gone, I was not trying to get you to choose a party in this forum they are both filled with men...some of them are bad and other not so bad....my original question which started this dialogue was how do we as believers in Christ Jesus and His Word....embrace the platform of same sex marriage? I am unsure how we started dealing with just the politics of this issue because politics do not belong to God....they are of man. When I asked you questions about a previous statement that you made, it was not to get you to switch to any party or from any party.....the original question is what we have gotten away from. Can believers in God's Word embrace a platform of same sex marriage, we seem to have gone way off topic here and for that I apologize...not really sure how we got there???</p>
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<p>I do however have one folow up question based on your last post.....do we as believers need a political party to take care of believers or is that God's job......you know "The Lord is my Shepherd I shall not want...it is HE that maketh me to lie down in green pastures....' So should we be looking for a political party to do what God promised that he would do for HIS people and the sheep of HIS pasture?? The last thing that I will say on this is simply this...you can never get Gods results doing it mans way... God's Word states "your ways are not MY ways and niether your thoughts MY thoughts' well if we go with your above argument you believe that a political party is taking God's place and that this is christianity?? newview deal with me with the scriptures, I am a minister of God's Word. I am in a christian forum supposedly talking to my Father's children and a few of the answers that I am receiving deal with the world's standards and not God's. So once again as believers can we go against the standards that are found in God's Word based on a political affiliation???</p> Dear Minister,
Ive never see…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-08-21:916966:Comment:43602312012-08-21T21:31:37.304Znewviewhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/newview
<p>Dear Minister, </p>
<p>Ive never seen so many Republican talking points here on this forum as I see u have brought up - LOL, you sound like FOX News!</p>
<p>But here it is –</p>
<p>Our economy was going off a cliff from the policies that favored greed, avarice, and the coddling of the rich. Those policies were set in place by the republicans that were in office. </p>
<p>Yes, there may be a lot of people on welfare now but not because the Democrats told them they HAD better get on welfare. …</p>
<p>Dear Minister, </p>
<p>Ive never seen so many Republican talking points here on this forum as I see u have brought up - LOL, you sound like FOX News!</p>
<p>But here it is –</p>
<p>Our economy was going off a cliff from the policies that favored greed, avarice, and the coddling of the rich. Those policies were set in place by the republicans that were in office. </p>
<p>Yes, there may be a lot of people on welfare now but not because the Democrats told them they HAD better get on welfare. It was because the businesses closed from the crash starting in late 2007 and onward.</p>
<p>Thank goodness for that safety-net. If Republicans were in office, there would be very little compassion for the folk that lost jobs and folk wouldn’t have a safety-net. There would be less unemployment checks for those who had lost jobs and needed to keep the electric on and less food stamps for those trying to make ends meet til the economy comes back fully. The Republicans fought hard to keep people suffering during their time of suffering.</p>
<p>Most Republicans seem to be a hard hearted group and care very little for the vulnerable and for those facing adversity and those that struggle. </p>
<p>The Democrats (as liberal as there are) have more compassion for those going through hard times.</p>
<p>Each party has its faults and not all white people in either group are filled with the devil but there is a personality for each of them. There is a certain spirit each possesses.</p>
<p>The personality of the Republicans party these days is made up of the personality of southern Democrats that left the Republican party back in the civil rights era because President Johnson was passing the Civil Rights Act. They rose up and left – they were called the Dixie-crats and switched over to the Republicans most of them left the Democratoc party. What a powerful evil spirit they took with them and now you have the Republican party of today.</p>
<p>The Democratic party then began to fill up with that were vulnerable (the working poor and immigrants and minorities and working middle class) because this party cared about the plights of these people. It became a haven for them.</p>
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<p>As far as Senator Byrd being a FORMER KKK member – that’s OK – he repented of his affiliation and renounced his former ways. This is what EVERYONE is instructed to do if they follow Jesus – <span style="text-decoration: underline;">repent</span> and become NEW creatures in Christ.</p>
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<p>But back to the Republicans and the Republican’s budget they plan to implement - treats the poor and working poor with disdain. And you think their budget will benefit those that are trying to make ends meet? I think not. It favors the rich.</p>
<p>It will take away the tax credits (EID) for the low income working poor and middle class with children - you know that thousand dollar or two you they get back at the end of the year fore each of their children (up to 2 or 3 I think) but it will extend and will expand the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">tax cuts</span> for the rich. </p>
<p>Where is this party’s mercy for the little guys in America. </p>
<p>Where is the mercy for the poor that the bible calls for?</p>
<p> And they constantly talk about how much they love Jesus more than Democrats!</p>
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<p>But the Democrats are fighting hard against their hard hearted policies and they should be thanked instead of vilified. </p>
<p>This is one thing the Dems are good at – caring for the vulnerable. </p>
<p><strong>To care for the poor within your gates is Christian 24 hours a day all around the world.</strong></p> Thanks, Sister:
I'll read it…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-08-18:916966:Comment:43519472012-08-18T15:42:28.468ZSis. Dedre Simmshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/SisDedreSimms
<p>Thanks, Sister:</p>
<p><br/>I'll read it all over the weekend.</p>
<p>God bless you and have a good week-end.</p>
<p>Thanks, Sister:</p>
<p><br/>I'll read it all over the weekend.</p>
<p>God bless you and have a good week-end.</p> Yes Sister Dedre;
That Spirit…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-08-18:916966:Comment:43515042012-08-18T11:29:19.773ZCynthia D. Johnsonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/CynthiaDJohnson
<p>Yes Sister Dedre;</p>
<p>That Spirit of Jezebel is a powerful stronghold in a lot of God's people. It leads to controls over others, mind control, haughtiness, arrogrance and other spirits. This is why we must study to show ourselves approved. The thing which concerns me, is most christians live their lives as normal like the world. </p>
<p>We're in a spiritual battle. We must fight. If we don't we lose...</p>
<p>Here are a few articles which will help you out...…</p>
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<p>Yes Sister Dedre;</p>
<p>That Spirit of Jezebel is a powerful stronghold in a lot of God's people. It leads to controls over others, mind control, haughtiness, arrogrance and other spirits. This is why we must study to show ourselves approved. The thing which concerns me, is most christians live their lives as normal like the world. </p>
<p>We're in a spiritual battle. We must fight. If we don't we lose...</p>
<p>Here are a few articles which will help you out...</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jonasclark.com/spiritual-warfare-prayer/take-your-life-back-from-jezebel.html">http://www.jonasclark.com/spiritual-warfare-prayer/take-your-life-back-from-jezebel.html</a><br/><a href="http://www.greatbiblestudy.com/deliverance_nutshell.php">http://www.greatbiblestudy.com/deliverance_nutshell.php</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.christian-faith.com/forjesus/jezebel-spirit">http://www.christian-faith.com/forjesus/jezebel-spirit</a></p> Sister Cynthia:
This referenc…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-08-18:916966:Comment:43509762012-08-18T00:13:57.769ZSis. Dedre Simmshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/SisDedreSimms
<p>Sister Cynthia:</p>
<p>This reference to 'Spirits of Jezebel' knocked me over. I was being led to read on the legacy of Jezebel and Ahab on the nation of Israel and the apostasy they established, as high up as even in the government itself against the one true God.</p>
<p>This is a powerful message in just a few words. Sister, that'll preach!</p>
<p>God bless you.</p>
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<p>Sister Cynthia:</p>
<p>This reference to 'Spirits of Jezebel' knocked me over. I was being led to read on the legacy of Jezebel and Ahab on the nation of Israel and the apostasy they established, as high up as even in the government itself against the one true God.</p>
<p>This is a powerful message in just a few words. Sister, that'll preach!</p>
<p>God bless you.</p>
<p></p> I feel when people of God fai…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-08-17:916966:Comment:43508392012-08-17T23:39:58.909ZCynthia D. Johnsonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/CynthiaDJohnson
<p>I feel when people of God fail to seek God and put Him first, there will be some form of deception. The Word of God states in Matthew 24:24, For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if <i>it were</i> possible, they shall deceive the very elect.</p>
<p>We as people of God need to bind the hand of the enemy and cast out the Spirits of Jezebel, division, confussion and everything which is not like God. </p>
<p>If we don't…</p>
<p>I feel when people of God fail to seek God and put Him first, there will be some form of deception. The Word of God states in Matthew 24:24, For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if <i>it were</i> possible, they shall deceive the very elect.</p>
<p>We as people of God need to bind the hand of the enemy and cast out the Spirits of Jezebel, division, confussion and everything which is not like God. </p>
<p>If we don't stand for truth, we'll yield to the lies of the devil.</p>
<p>I beleive the ticket can be changed but it's only when God's people stands in unity. </p> Bro. Minister:
That was posit…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-08-16:916966:Comment:43489082012-08-16T13:54:21.224ZSis. Dedre Simmshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/SisDedreSimms
<p>Bro. Minister:</p>
<p>That was positively, brilliant.</p>
<p>Bro. Minister:</p>
<p>That was positively, brilliant.</p> @newview - I do have a few fo…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-08-16:916966:Comment:43485892012-08-16T02:58:07.821ZElder C. Leehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MinisterClintonLee
<p>@newview - I do have a few follow up questions for you based on your statements (remember I am not espousing either party for you to vote) What about the black republicans? Are they racist? are all white republicans racist? are their no democratic racist? If I recall correctly the last party to have a former KKK member the late senator Byrd was a democrat.........so if you are saying that one party is racist over another wouldn't you pick the one that actually had a KKK member representing…</p>
<p>@newview - I do have a few follow up questions for you based on your statements (remember I am not espousing either party for you to vote) What about the black republicans? Are they racist? are all white republicans racist? are their no democratic racist? If I recall correctly the last party to have a former KKK member the late senator Byrd was a democrat.........so if you are saying that one party is racist over another wouldn't you pick the one that actually had a KKK member representing them in the senate less than 2 years ago? Next are all democrats devils? Are their no Christian democrats in office who support and follow the Word of God? Do the democrats love the poor and if so exactly how is that shown? Under this current administration more people of all races have gone on welfare than ever before......is that an issue that we can just over look? So when we get away from the original intent of the question it just opens up to many doors that lead to no where unless we only deal with the facts and not conjecture and personal opinions that may or may not be supported.</p> im sorry, I thought I was cle…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-08-16:916966:Comment:43483152012-08-16T00:31:38.157Znewviewhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/newview
<p>im sorry, I thought I was clear. </p>
<p>Im not voting for Obama since this whole 'same gender marriage' fiasco.</p>
<p>I can't vote for the selfish - racist - hate for the poor - white is might Republicans.</p>
<p>Therefore I wont vote for the President this time around and not Romney.</p>
<p>But Republicans are the most hypocrital gun totin', hatin, running scared, so called christians on the planet.</p>
<p>Are the Democrats devils too? YES</p>
<p>But it dont get Repubs off the…</p>
<p>im sorry, I thought I was clear. </p>
<p>Im not voting for Obama since this whole 'same gender marriage' fiasco.</p>
<p>I can't vote for the selfish - racist - hate for the poor - white is might Republicans.</p>
<p>Therefore I wont vote for the President this time around and not Romney.</p>
<p>But Republicans are the most hypocrital gun totin', hatin, running scared, so called christians on the planet.</p>
<p>Are the Democrats devils too? YES</p>
<p>But it dont get Repubs off the hook.</p>
<p>I have no dog in this race and we are free to NOT vote for either of them. Thank the Lord.</p>
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