Can We Eat Pork, Shellfish, And All Torah Forbidden Foods Under The New Testament?

[James Pierce]

Anyone?

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

1) I heard that one from you before......
2) I don't really list you amongst the Prophets
3) with all that you typed, you STILL didn't take notice to the fact that I answered your question in depth and am waiting for your response. In not, then hey, at least you can't say I dodged your question.....

[Chaplain Pat Harris]

James,

Have you ever tried to expand your study of scriptures beyond the Torah? The reason I am asking this question is because you have placed God and the nation of Israel in a box as indicated here.

Torah: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua

[James Pierce]

Chaplain,

Joshua is not Torah.. Genesis is not Torah either. Genesis is Torah by tradition, and not by scripture. The Priests did not stand up in front of the people and read Genesis. Moses did not do that either.. They read TORAH. Of course I study beyond the Torah.

Have YOU considered studying the Torah in-depth????

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

NOW, I can answer your request:

Can you show me how the covenant itself was faulty versus how the Israelites were faulty?

Jeremiah 31:29-30 says this:

"In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge. But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge."

These are words that were dealt with by Ezekiel as well, speaking of the covenant that GOD made with Israel. In this, the saying speaks of the punishments being passed down from generation to generation. There is a total fault within this, and GOD spoke of the correction and new covenant through Ezekiel in chapter 18 of his writings:

"1The word of the LORD came unto me again, saying,

2What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge?

3As I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel.

4Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

5But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right,

6And hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, neither hath defiled his neighbour's wife, neither hath come near to a menstruous woman,

7And hath not oppressed any, but hath restored to the debtor his pledge, hath spoiled none by violence, hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment;

8He that hath not given forth upon usury, neither hath taken any increase, that hath withdrawn his hand from iniquity, hath executed true judgment between man and man,

9Hath walked in my statutes, and hath kept my judgments, to deal truly; he is just, he shall surely live, saith the Lord GOD.

10If he beget a son that is a robber, a shedder of blood, and that doeth the like to any one of these things,

11And that doeth not any of those duties, but even hath eaten upon the mountains, and defiled his neighbour's wife,

12Hath oppressed the poor and needy, hath spoiled by violence, hath not restored the pledge, and hath lifted up his eyes to the idols, hath committed abomination,

13Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him.

14Now, lo, if he beget a son, that seeth all his father's sins which he hath done, and considereth, and doeth not such like,

15That hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, hath not defiled his neighbour's wife,

16Neither hath oppressed any, hath not withholden the pledge, neither hath spoiled by violence, but hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment,

17That hath taken off his hand from the poor, that hath not received usury nor increase, hath executed my judgments, hath walked in my statutes; he shall not die for the iniquity of his father, he shall surely live.

18As for his father, because he cruelly oppressed, spoiled his brother by violence, and did that which is not good among his people, lo, even he shall die in his iniquity.

19Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live.

20The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

21But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

22All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.

23Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

24But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

25Yet ye say, The way of the LORD is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?

26When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.

27Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.

28Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

29Yet saith the house of Israel, The way of the LORD is not equal. O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal?

30Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.

31Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

32For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye."

You may say, "GOD never established such a thing with Israel before", but HE did.


Exodus 20:5 "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;"

The covenant was flawed, and it was GOD Himself that found fault in it:

Jeremiah 31:29-31 "In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge. But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge. Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:"

Yes the people were in total error, but the covenant that GOD made wasn't perfect either. If it were, then we wouldn't have needed the death of CHRIST JESUS at all. If the old covenant was perfect, then it would have been unbreakable. However, the writer of Hebrews declares rightly"

Hebrews 8:6-8 "But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:"

The covenant was not perfect at all. This is also confirmed within later verses:

Hebrews 11:39-40 "And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect."

If GOD gave something, wouldn't it be perfect already? If that be so, then the writer of Hebrews is a blasphemer and we should disregard this book altogether! He is accusing GOD of giving us something that wasn't perfect!! But if it is so, then GOD knew it wasn't perfect:

1st Corinthians 12:10 "But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away."

No James, the old covenant was not perfect, and therefore was to fade away and be done away with, by high decree from GOD Himself. Israel was faulty, but so was the covenant that GOD made with them, and He knew it. It was just a schoolmaster to keep us until the better came, and better, and better.....and finally, the perfect which is eternal bliss in the Kingdom of GOD. Nothing is perfect now while Satan is loose, not even the old covenant.

[MattatYah bat Yshral]

. . . . "It is not swine that is bad, but swine not prepared properly????????????"

Just when I thought I was old enough to have heard it all-- I'm sorry I can't find anywhere in Torah or Neviim (prophets) were it instructed Yshral to COOK their swine properly! So if we are out of the window with the Torah. Maybe you new age preachers can teach your members how to be proper homosexauls and lesbians, HUH!  Oh that's right you christians have already started that haven't you.  Beware oh lawless ones.  Read that thing you call a bible.  It's actually a law book.  A law that all those you have a shred of hope to live in the eternal kingdom will gladly follow.  Stop all of this je-zues nail the Torah to the cross.  Je-zues is a picture Leonardo D'Vinci drew. Yhusha haMashiach nail the handwrittings of ordainances that were against us to the tree.  Torah is not against the one who keeps it. It's against the one who BREAKS IT. 

[Rt. Rev. Adrian L. West I]

Hello, love the topic have only read, the first and last pages of answers,, can someone please explain what the Word is saying, in the Acts of the Apostles,, Peters dream before his encounter, with Cornelious???????thank you in advance....

[MattatYah bat Yshral]

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Shalom.