Did Jesus do away with the Animal Sacrifice Law or the Moral Law in the New Covenant?

Hezekiah:I just want to say IN ORDER TO LEARN YOU HAVE TO READ, IF YOU ARE LAZY AND WON'T READ, THEN DON'T REPLY TO ME WHEN I PREACH THE LAW. Jesus came and died for the sins of man. True, but Jesus caused the Animal Sacrifice Law to be done away with, not the Moral law. First we are going to deal with how the Bible is to be read.

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Isaiah 28:9-11 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

Hezekiah:So it has to be the law and the Testamony, and it has to be Precept upon Precept Line upon Line, Here a Little there a Little Now we are going to see if these scriptures are talking about Animal Sacrifice Law or moral Law.

Hebrews 9:18-22 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood. For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people, Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you. Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry. And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

Hebrews 10:3-11 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins

Hezekiah:Does this not sound like the Animal Sacrifice Law?

Hezekiah: Here is Daniel's account of the Messiah's death, and whatthe Messiah did. Let's see if the Messiah died to take away the Moral law.

Daniel 9:And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments; We have sinned, and have committed iniquity, and have done wickedly, and have rebelled, even by departing from thy precepts and from thy judgments: Neither have we hearkened unto thy servants the prophets, which spake in thy name to our kings, our princes, and our fathers, and to all the people of the land.

Daniel 9:26-27 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Hezekiah:Who do you think?

Matthew 27:50-51 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

Hezekiah: Doesn't sound like the Moral law was done away with.

Colossians 1:14-17 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

Galatians3:13-16 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto. Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Hezekiah: What is the curse of the Law? the animal Sacrifice law because the Blood of bulls and goats could not take away sins.

Hezekiah: Now let's see if the new covenant is the moral law being done away with or the Animal sacrifice law.

1John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Matthew 19: 16-24 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

1John 5:1-3 hosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

James 2:8-12 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

And God spake all these words, saying, I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.Thou shalt not kill. Thou shalt not commit adultery. Thou shalt not steal. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off. And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.

Matthew 5:19-20 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Romans 3:29-31 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Romans 6:1-4 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Romans 7:7-13 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

Hezekiah: Here is the last book in the Bible telling you to keep the commandments or Moral Law

Revelation 22:12-14 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Ecclesiastes 12:13-14Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

Hezekiah: Let's see we have Matthew saying keep the Commandments. We have John saying keep the commandments, We have Jesus saying it in Revelation. We have David saying keep the commandments in Ecclesiastes. We have James saying it. We have Paul saying keep the commandments. It looks like that we are to keep the commandments to get eternal Life. So, the moral law is not done away with, just the animal Sacrifice Law. If you don't read this whole thread you will get no understanding.

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The writer of the post divided it, not I. Also the poster did not say ceremonial vs moral law. The poster said moral law vs animal sacrifice. pssss ...animal rights and peta would be all over anybody sacrifing animals
Bro Valentine:
Don't you realize that "sacrificing animals" occurs 24/7 around the world in our meat packing houses?
My Friend there's a differnce between slaughting an animal for human food. Verse sacrificeing an animal to God.{ sin offering] I would clarify ceremonial law as wereing black and white on first sunday. Ladeis wereing hats on sunday morning, deacons leading the praise and worship service, etc. Ceremonial law cannot atone for sins, or give you eternal salvation
Bro Valentine, not all animals were sacrificed for "sin offerings". That is what most people/Christians misunderstand.

The animal sacrifices are classified as part of the ceremonial laws, that is why I inclided them under that classification.

If the animal sacrifices passed away with Messiah's death, why is Paul undergoing a Nazarite vow in Acts 18:18, this vow involved animal sacrifices:

18 And Paul after this tarried there yet a good while, and then took his leave of the brethren, and sailed thence into Syria, and with him Priscilla and Aquila; having shorn his head in Cenchrea: for he had a vow.

The reference for this vow is

Numb. 6:1 - 20

1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When either man or woman shall separate themselves to vow a vow of a Nazarite, to separate themselves unto the LORD:

3 He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink, and shall drink no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried.

4 All the days of his separation shall he eat nothing that is made of the vine tree, from the kernels even to the husk.

5 All the days of the vow of his separation there shall no razor come upon his head: until the days be fulfilled, in the which he separateth himself unto the LORD, he shall be holy, and shall let the locks of the hair of his head grow.

6 All the days that he separateth himself unto the LORD he shall come at no dead body.

7 He shall not make himself unclean for his father, or for his mother, for his brother, or for his sister, when they die: because the consecration of his God is upon his head.

8 All the days of his separation he is holy unto the LORD.

9 And if any man die very suddenly by him, and he hath defiled the head of his consecration; then he shall shave his head in the day of his cleansing, on the seventh day shall he shave it.

10 And on the eighth day he shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons, to the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation:

11 And the priest shall offer the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering, and make an atonement for him, for that he sinned by the dead, and shall hallow his head that same day.

12 And he shall consecrate unto the LORD the days of his separation, and shall bring a lamb of the first year for a trespass offering: but the days that were before shall be lost, because his separation was defiled.

13 And this is the law of the Nazarite, when the days of his separation are fulfilled: he shall be brought unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation:

And he shall offer his offering unto the LORD, one he lamb of the first year without blemish for a burnt offering, and one ewe lamb

15 And a basket of unleavened bread, cakes of fine flour mingled with oil, and wafers of unleavened bread anointed with oil, and their meat offering, and their drink offerings.

16 And the priest shall bring them before the LORD, and shall offer his sin offering, and his burnt offering:

17 And he shall offer the ram for a sacrifice of peace offerings unto the LORD, with the basket of unleavened bread: the priest shall offer also his meat offering, and his drink offering.

18 And the Nazarite shall shave the head of his separation at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and shall take the hair of the head of his separation, and put it in the fire which is under the sacrifice of the peace offerings.

19 And the priest shall take the sodden shoulder of the ram, and one unleavened cake out of the basket, and one unleavened wafer, and shall put them upon the hands of the Nazarite, after the hair of his separation is shaven:

20 And the priest shall wave them for a wave offering before the LORD: this is holy for the priest, with the wave breast and heave shoulder: and after that the Nazarite may drink wine."

The vow Paul undertook long after his Damascus experience and time in the wilderness being personally instructed by Messiah, involved "animal sacrifices".

Another point regarding the animal sacrifices, whenever you have a holiday dinner, isn't some animal, whether pig, cow, chicken, turkey "sacrificed/slaughtered for your enjoyment of the holiday? We just don't think about it since we don't see the animals being slain, but the reality is that today, your tables contain animals slain for your culinary enjoyment. The only difference is that in the Bible, the meat slaughtered for the Feast Days/Sabbath was done in the Temple.
Your meat is slaughtered in the packing houses.

Do you see the similarity?
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(Not that pigs would be slaughtered in the Temple but this is posted so you can see how you get the meat for your table. Somebody, somewhere is sacrificing animals for you to eat!).

Therefore do you think Paul was in error for taking this Nazarite Vow and sacrificing animals in the Temple?
Sister Ana,

I think you drop the ball on this post because the Messiah did cause the animal sacrifice to die with the Messiah, but of course Israel continued to sacrifice the animals.

Daniel 9:26-27 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
We are not under the law , we are in the despensation of Grace.Grace given by our Lord and Saviour Jesus the Christ. Most animals were given man for food and nourishement. The bible speaks about how God let down a sheet of clean and unclean food. Peter at first refused to eat , saying nothing unclean has touched my lips. God replied call nothing Unclean that I have made clean [Acts 11:4-9] Also paul never took the nazarite vow. First and foremost paul was not a nazarite, I believe he was a pharisee, and he was not a levite or in the priest hood. So he would have not been allowed to sacrifice. This post is mainly for sister anna
Pastor Valentine:
What I find so tragic here on BPN is that so many of you who are pastors/teachers are so unskilled in the word.

I present to you the Eaton Bible Dictionary comment on Paul regarding his Nazarite vows:

Easton's Bible Dictionary

Nazarite [N] [H] [S]

(Heb. form Nazirite), the name of such Israelites as took on them the vow prescribed in Numbers 6:2-21. The word denotes generally one who is separated from others and consecrated to God. Although there is no mention of any Nazarite before Samson, yet it is evident that they existed before the time of Moses. The vow of a Nazarite involved these three things, (1) abstinence from wine and strong drink, (2) refraining from cutting the hair off the head during the whole period of the continuance of the vow, and (3) the avoidance of contact with the dead.

When the period of the continuance of the vow came to an end, the Nazarite had to present himself at the door of the sanctuary with (1) a he lamb of the first year for a burnt-offering, (2) a ewe lamb of the first year for a sin-offering, and (3) a ram for a peace-offering. After these sacrifices were offered by the priest, the Nazarite cut off his hair at the door and threw it into the fire under the peace-offering.

For some reason, probably in the midst of his work at Corinth, Paul took on himself the Nazarite vow. This could only be terminated by his going up to Jerusalem to offer up the hair which till then was to be left uncut. But it seems to have been allowable for persons at a distance to cut the hair, which was to be brought up to Jerusalem, where the ceremony was completed. This Paul did at Cenchrea just before setting out on his voyage into Syria (Acts 18:18).

On another occasion (Acts 21:23-26), at the feast of Pentecost, Paul took on himself again the Nazarite vow.


So Valentine, with the evidence I presented, will you be honest enough admit you are wrong about Paul, who did take two Nazarite vows, or do you need more evidence?

It is your use of the word "Law" that gives many people the impression that you are referring to the 600+ OT Laws, when actually your are speaking of the Ten Commandments which is the Moral Law as referred to in the OT. In the NT it is referred to as Christlike or holy living.

Now, where you and I will no doubt disagree is that you seem to think that the only way to heaven is by keeping the commandments of the OT Moral Law (Christlike or Holy Living), without the confession of faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 10:9,10, 13) and receiving the indwelling Holy Spirit which seals us as belonging to Him (Ephesians 1:13).

This is not to say that after receiving the gift of salvation we can go back to living ungodly. But, because we are living in the Dispensation of Grace, we will receive forgiveness of our sins if asked of God and repent from them because even though we receive salvation, the sin nature did not go away therefore we still have the potential to sin. As a born-again believer, we are no longer under the rule of sin because of the indwelling Holy Spirit, but we must choose to yield to Him for daily instructions in living holy. The Holy Spirit will not force anything on us; we must choose to follow His lead. Before receiving the Holy Spirit, we had nothing in us except the sin nature and it was our sin nature that had full control.

Do you follow me?
We are not going to Heaven. The Lord is bringing his kingdom here on Earth in Jerusalem. I can see that you do not read Sister Harris. I have brought countless scriptures on these matters.
You have to read more than just that verse. The Lord says all over the Bible that he is bringing the Kingdom to Earth. I will set up a Thread about that as well.
Sis Harris:

The "Dispensation of Grace" started in the Garden of Eden. If not for "Grace"
Adam and Eve would have never been forgiven and given a chance to live after the Fall.
"Noah" would not have been instructed to build the ark.

The Israelites would have been destroyed in the wilderness.

David would have been stoned/killed for his adultery.

Israel once exiled would never have been brought back into their land, etc., etc., etc.....

One of our Heavenly Father's names is "Gracious". That is His characteristic.

One cannot say that we are now in the "Dispensation of Grace."

That is purely a modern day Christian not a Biblical doctrine.


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