Don't Just Follow Blindly - Black Preaching Network2024-03-28T08:35:54Zhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/don-t-just-follow-blindly?commentId=916966%3AComment%3A5262589&feed=yes&xn_auth=nofavour15yousi@live.comHello m…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2013-05-01:916966:Comment:56399122013-05-01T00:49:43.649Zfavourhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/favour963
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<p>favour15yousi@live.com<br/>Hello my dear how are you. i am Favour. this is very important<br/>please contact me to my email right now; (favour15yousi@live.com)<br/>thanks god bless you am waiting to hear from you soonest<br/><br/></p> Oh by the way Sarah the fact…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-12-02:916966:Comment:52635602012-12-02T17:39:50.135ZAngela Doreenhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/SisterAngela
<p>Oh by the way Sarah the fact that God told Moses to write down His word make the written word as important as the spoken and living word</p>
<p>Oh by the way Sarah the fact that God told Moses to write down His word make the written word as important as the spoken and living word</p> God's word is a lamp unto our…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-12-02:916966:Comment:52636132012-12-02T17:15:29.995ZAngela Doreenhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/SisterAngela
God's word is a lamp unto our feet." All words from God, living or in the Bible as it is the same Spirit. All I am saying is you cannot put one as more important as the other as they are from the same Spirit<br />
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Sarah you wont get any argument from me here because you have stated percisely what I have been saying which is the word of God whether spoken, written or living is one because they all preceeded from God and are equally important just as the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are one. the word of…
God's word is a lamp unto our feet." All words from God, living or in the Bible as it is the same Spirit. All I am saying is you cannot put one as more important as the other as they are from the same Spirit<br />
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Sarah you wont get any argument from me here because you have stated percisely what I have been saying which is the word of God whether spoken, written or living is one because they all preceeded from God and are equally important just as the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are one. the word of God is tthe foundation of the believers life and the same word isspoken, written and living. Yes that is the living word t…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-12-02:916966:Comment:52636892012-12-02T17:02:44.987ZDr Sarah Carrolhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/DrSarahCarrol
<p>Yes that is the living word to Moses and everyone who reads it. It is the same thing today, many including myself get the living word and write what we get, which is no more or less important that scripture as it is also the word of God. The point being is it is the same Spirit.</p>
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<p>The comment was " <span>God's word is a lamp unto our feet." All words from God, living or in the Bible as it is the same Spirit. All I am saying is you cannot put one as more important as the other as…</span></p>
<p>Yes that is the living word to Moses and everyone who reads it. It is the same thing today, many including myself get the living word and write what we get, which is no more or less important that scripture as it is also the word of God. The point being is it is the same Spirit.</p>
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<p>The comment was " <span>God's word is a lamp unto our feet." All words from God, living or in the Bible as it is the same Spirit. All I am saying is you cannot put one as more important as the other as they are from the same Spirit. The word from the five fold gift ministry or scripture comes from the same Spirit and all equally important? Yes, No?</span></p> Thank you Paul Thomas, please…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-12-02:916966:Comment:52636822012-12-02T16:48:18.225ZAngela Doreenhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/SisterAngela
Thank you Paul Thomas, please note I did not see your Reply by Paul Thomas on October 20, 2012 at 3:10pm until just now and I am having the same problem in that the rely button does not appear to work in order for me to respond under what you wrote. Anyway I am glad you like the discussion and you are perfectly correct the word of God is a lamp upon our feet, it is the very direction that as a believer we need. Please join us and give your opinion because these note these discussions that I do…
Thank you Paul Thomas, please note I did not see your Reply by Paul Thomas on October 20, 2012 at 3:10pm until just now and I am having the same problem in that the rely button does not appear to work in order for me to respond under what you wrote. Anyway I am glad you like the discussion and you are perfectly correct the word of God is a lamp upon our feet, it is the very direction that as a believer we need. Please join us and give your opinion because these note these discussions that I do is for us to search and know the best way. Because there are ways that are not perfect, ways that will take us off track, ways that will attempt to trip us but if we get to grips with the word of God, if we become interwine with his word and let it speak to our hearts, soul and mind then it is very hard for anything to unsettle us.God word is powerful to those who are in Christ. Through his written word we can find His spoken word because the written word of God comes alive in the hearts of the believer, the problem is we sometimes place a barrier on our hearts so we end up seeing the word as satan sees it but that is not the intention of God in his words are mysteries that only belong to the children of God that is why a unbeliever do not see the same things in the word that a believer see. Okay Sarah I don't know why w…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-12-02:916966:Comment:52635132012-12-02T16:07:54.091ZAngela Doreenhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/SisterAngela
Okay Sarah I don't know why when I press to rely to you it wont make me do it under your question but this is in response what you state you dont understand still am not understanding what your saying about Moses as he received the living Word of God and not the written word of God? 'I don't understand where you are getting this? Most of the Old Testament prophets also had the living word of God which is how they wrote what they did?'<br />
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Look in Exodus 34:27 And the Lord said unto Moses, Write…
Okay Sarah I don't know why when I press to rely to you it wont make me do it under your question but this is in response what you state you dont understand still am not understanding what your saying about Moses as he received the living Word of God and not the written word of God? 'I don't understand where you are getting this? Most of the Old Testament prophets also had the living word of God which is how they wrote what they did?'<br />
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Look in Exodus 34:27 And the Lord said unto Moses, Write thou these words : for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel. I still am not understanding…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-12-02:916966:Comment:52626082012-12-02T11:48:34.841ZDr Sarah Carrolhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/DrSarahCarrol
<p>I still am not understanding what your saying about Moses as he received the living Word of God and not the written word of God? I don't understand where you are getting this? Most of the Old Testament prophets also had the living word of God which is how they wrote what they did? </p>
<p>I still am not understanding what your saying about Moses as he received the living Word of God and not the written word of God? I don't understand where you are getting this? Most of the Old Testament prophets also had the living word of God which is how they wrote what they did? </p> No Sarah read through all I h…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-12-02:916966:Comment:52625892012-12-02T11:22:04.174ZAngela Doreenhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/SisterAngela
<p>No Sarah read through all I have said I have not rejected the five fold ministry just it's importance over the word of God because there should be no attempt to separate the spoken, written or living word one from another because they are all of and from God.</p>
<p>So no I have not rejected the five fold or leadership we need leaders and God recognises this that is why He sent Moses to lead His people but Moses could not do so with out the word of God and all of God's prophet was only able…</p>
<p>No Sarah read through all I have said I have not rejected the five fold ministry just it's importance over the word of God because there should be no attempt to separate the spoken, written or living word one from another because they are all of and from God.</p>
<p>So no I have not rejected the five fold or leadership we need leaders and God recognises this that is why He sent Moses to lead His people but Moses could not do so with out the word of God and all of God's prophet was only able to function through the word of God. </p>
<p>Its your priority or placing that I reject because foremost the worn of God is important therefore the studying of His word must be upmost in all believers. It is only through us knowing the word that we as believers will be able to identify false teachings.</p> If you have a real apostle, y…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-12-02:916966:Comment:52608302012-12-02T03:57:29.712ZDr Sarah Carrolhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/DrSarahCarrol
<p>If you have a real apostle, you are hearing from God. It is the living word versus the written word. Yes I have never said one does not need the written word, but one does need the living word as well as the written word, but not only that even more important is to know the voice of the shepherd. </p>
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<p>When Jesus was on earth and for sure when Eve was alive the five fold gift ministry was not even in existence, so it was not really a fair analogy? Plus you assume I have not been in…</p>
<p>If you have a real apostle, you are hearing from God. It is the living word versus the written word. Yes I have never said one does not need the written word, but one does need the living word as well as the written word, but not only that even more important is to know the voice of the shepherd. </p>
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<p>When Jesus was on earth and for sure when Eve was alive the five fold gift ministry was not even in existence, so it was not really a fair analogy? Plus you assume I have not been in the desert, which is also not accurate, but one thing that concerns me is that you reject what I write and would reject what I would speak, but the big part of the five fold gift ministry is the living word as the living word dwells in us. </p>
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<p>Christ is made of two very important parts; first is the head which is Jesus who no doubt is the gate by which all must enter and secondly is the body of Christ which cannot be separated from the head, but to reject what the five fold gift ministry says and those in the body speak is to reject Christ. The message from the living word is that God has a plan for each and every person, which includes one's purpose and calling, which starts with meeting Jesus and spending time with Him and the gets into ones purpose and calling and either one knows their purpose or calling or does not know their purpose and calling or they do not want to know or don't care, as there are four categories. Rebellion is not wanting to know and not wanting to know and not wanting to walk in ones purpose and calling. </p>
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<p>You say that the Bible is crucial and I would assume that what is in the Bible would also be of great importance? If that is true, the five fold gift ministry is in the Bible, so what you are teaching goes against the Bible that you say is important. I mean if this there it is important. The five fold gift ministry did not even start until the new covenant started? So saying the Christ did not use the five fold gift ministry is just not true as Christ is made of two parts, but those not in the five fold gift ministry more times than not only see Christ as Jesus and when in the five fold gift ministry, they see Christ as head and body. </p>
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<p>The end result is to be a living epistle and how one becomes a living epistle is to here from God as Jesus had no will except the Father that sent Him and if we are like Him, then we have no will except the Father that sends us as well, but to be a living epistle is to speak or write the very words they get from the Father. The foundation you speak of is not the Word being the Bible, but our Father as He is the creator of the Word. </p>
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<p>I have never said the Bible was not important or that one should do without the Bible, but if one is going to be in line with the Word, which you state is the Bible, then one also must be in line with His ministry, which is the five fold gift ministry and simply put, God ordained the five fold gift ministry and what you are suggesting is that people should reject His ministry? Honestly that is what you are suggesting. </p>
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<p>By they way it was the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil that Eve or Adam was not to eat of. Eating of the tree of knowledge allows one to pick and choose what one believes.We are to accept the whole and not just the parts that we want to accept, but part of that whole is the five fold gift ministry and rejecting even part of it, is to reject the whole as none of us have a right to reject any part of it and one of the things the five fold gift ministry does is it bring balance, which the body of Christ badly needs. </p>
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<p>What is key is to be led by the Spirit of God, but it was the Spirit the created the five fold gift ministry so we would know the truth as it was created so one can come to maturity "being no longer tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine." What you can accomplish by not supporting the five fold gift ministry is division as His ministry is a part of the five fold gift ministry. Now we can come up with doctrines such as the five fold gift ministry is no longer needed and many subscribe to that doctrine, creating further division, but one of the major purposes of the five fold gift ministry is so we can be neatly fit together without division. I mean if you believe the Bible then why not accept what is in the Bible? I mean it really does not make sense to say one believes in the Bible and then reject parts of it, which is a very large part of the New Covenant started in Acts chapter 2. </p>