For All to Consider: The Difference Between the FATHER and the SON.....

1 Corinthians 15

22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

 23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at His coming.

 24Then cometh the end, when He shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when He shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

 25For He must reign, till He hath put all enemies under His feet.

 26The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

 27For He hath put all things under His feet. But when He saith all things are put under Him, it is manifest that He is excepted, which did put all things
under Him.

 28And when all things shall be subdued unto Him, then shall the Son also Himself be subject unto Him that put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.



With all the talk and so-called debate of the Oneness doctrine, vs the Trinity, this verse should come into play. What do those of the P.A.W., U.P.C.I., Apostolic Faith Inc., and all other who adhere to the Oneness doctrine feel concerning this scripture? What is your interpretation? Does this effect your view of the Trinity or the Oneness doctrine in anyway? If so, how?

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my apostle dont play. i agree just be like him and he was not a jesus of division but of peace and love. this a trick of the enmey to keep us divided i see why people run to other things. get stable body of christ 12345 dont matter just live and do wat he says declare the works and love each other.
JUST LET God be glorified. If some of you would spend more time cleaning your lives up than debating the word. the enemy has you where he wants divided. give honor where honor is due.jus proclaim the word. i just wanna get to that prepared place. three four or five i need them all
talk right apostle
Yes, lets lay it down flat that the trinity is a heresy that came from the MOTHER of harlots, unless you all get from around them and turn toward the truth, HELL where you shall lift your eyes. Obey Acts 2:38
Is it not better to Obey the Torah of Adonai...For it is written Obedience is greater than sacrifice of bulls and goats
Obedience to the very instructions given to the Bride Israel that Yeshua would have taught from are a lifetime journey they never cease to unfold new and greater mysteries ....

Certainly the Harlot lied...The Imperial church of Rome even refutes her own doctrine of the Virgin Birth( as a first century dogma that gods could impregnate women...so there you have the rest of the story:: Not my words; Their own Historical records//

The real Torah of Adonai~truth is this:::The Messiah must be descended on his father’s side from King David (see Genesis 49:10 and Isaiah 11:1). According to the Christian claim that Jesus was the product of a virgin birth, he had no father—and thus could not have possibly fulfilled the messianic requirement of being descended on his father’s side from King David! /At the end of the day, Sadly all too much of it is an Embellished" story a misconstruction and for the most part the Hellenistic proto-agnostic version taught today is far from the first century teaching of the day received from Rav.HIllel the Elder to all of Israel~Much more here for the serious student..shalom Aleichem...
What will it profit us to argue this point? Will we receive a promotion from on high? Will we win a one day pass to consort with a myriad of angels, and to walk the stones of fire? Will we upon the conclusion of this matter be permitted to gaze into the river of God, clear as crystal to behold the reflection of our innerman to see what we really are? Will we witness the spectacular wonder of life as it really is and not as we see it? Truth be told, we are all blind. We live in a very dark world and We are the blind leading the blind. But God is a marvelous light. If we seek to study that which breaks forth out of Him and to embrace it; and if we will hate this darkness that we have grown accustomed to then will we be His sons, and we will become seeing, for we shall be led by His Spirit. There is no leading of the Spirit where there is confusion. None of us know the whole truth. His ways are past finding out. But let us, everyone of us, work out our own soul salvation with fear and trembling. For if any of us escape hell, we scarcely do so. Thank God for His mercy and Grace.
Dear brothers and sisters in Christ,

Remember, our Lord Jesus Christ has said:

“They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men”.

Mark 7:7

Dear brother Trevor, with all due respect, let me tell you that your study above is nothing but A RULE TAUGHT BY MEN !

May God open your eyes!

My beloved Brother, let us read the Holy Scriptures.

Indeed, the Holy Bible (MY ABSOLUTE) declares:

“There is one body and one Spirit-just as you were called to one hope when you were called- one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.”

Ephesians 4:4-6

Brother, the will of God was to pull off the sinful creation from its state of sin (Galatians 3: 13). All those which believe in the doctrines of the trinity lost the revelation of the single God Who was manifested in the Old Testament like the Father, appeared in the Gospels as a Son (Jesus), and appeared in the book of the Acts of the Apostles as the Holy Spirit.

Actually, they are only three dispensations of same God:

1) God above us

2) God with us

3) God in us

“one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all”.

Ephesians 4:5-6

THE SAME PERSON (THE LORD) WHO IS ABOVE ALL IS THE SAME ONE WHO IS THROUGH ALL AND IN ALL. Amen!

It is not a question of two or three people, but one glorious character, marvelously revealed (Hebrews 1: 1-3).

Indeed, the Father and the Son do not constitute two distinct people. The Father is God and the Son is the flesh or the Man in whom God dwelt with a view to achieve the work of redemption (Luke 1:35).

The belief in two or three distinct people in the Divinity is an idolatry, it is polytheism. The Spirit of God was always expressed through the Prophets and the Apostles to reveal the supreme deity of Jesus-Christ and to attest that there is one God.

It is not that there are three gods or three people, but God in three functions. There is only one God with three titles: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Indeed, all the expressions: Faithful Witness, He who is, He who was and He who is to come, First born from the dead, the Rose of Sharon, the Lily of the valley, Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star, Alpha and the Omega, the Almighty, Immanuel, Counsellor, Prince of peace, Savior, Powerful God, the lion of the tribe of Judah, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, are titles and descriptions of the only one God namely our Lord Jesus-Christ:

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder; and his name is called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace”.

Isaiah 9:6

DON’T YOU BELIEVE THAT THE SAME PERSON WHO IS CALLED “CHILD” OR “SOIN” IS THE SAME ONE(PERSON) WHO IS CALLED MIGHTY GOD, FATHER OF ETERNITY?

O my Lord, please open Brother Rodrick Sweet’s eyes so that he can see the truth!!!!!

Jesus is the Almighty God:

“Behold, he comes with the clouds, and every eye shall see him, and they which have pierced him, and all the tribes of the land shall wail because of him. Yea. Amen. I am the Alpha and the Omega, saith the Lord God, he who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty”.

Revelation 1:7-8

Indeed, “Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."
9Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. 12I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. 14You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.


Question: “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us”

Answer: DON’T YOU KNOW ME PHILIP…?

We notice that Jesus didn’t reply: Don't you know HIM, Philip…, but He replied:

DON’T YOU KNOW ME PHILIP…?

ME ! ME! ME ! ME! Amen!


WHO IS JESUS?

Jesus Himself said:

“All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him”.

Matthew 11:27

Yes, “no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son”

Do you know the Son? Do you know the Father?

Did the Son reveal you who is really the Father?

Do you see two people?

The Bible declares that He who has seen Jesus has seen the Father:

« And he who sees Me sees Him who sent Me”.

John 12:45

Why ?

Simply because Jesus Himself said :

“I and My Father are one.”

John 10:30

Jesus and His Father are not two “Gods” or two “PERSONS” but one God, ONE PERSON.

You need to have a revelation to understand this.

This is the reason why Brother Paul said:

“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh…” (1Timothy 3:16).

Jesus said: « Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me”.

John 14:6

ME ! ME! ME ! ME! Amen!

He didn’t say “no one goes to the Father” but He said “no one comes to the Father”
Do you understand the Holy Scriptures? May God enlighten you so that you can see that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself:
“ that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation”.

2 Corinthians 5:19

This is the reason why the Bible declares:

“No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.

John 1:18

Indeed, Immanuel,God with us (Matthew 1: 23) bore the name of Jesus-Christ and it is by this physical body in which He was incarnated that He offered the sacrifice which erased all our iniquities. He had never sinned, but the punishment which gives us peace fell on Him. It is because the man, in his body of flesh fell into the sin and by that was (condemned) delivered to death, that The Almighty God(YAHWEH), the Redeemer came in the same form in which lives the sin(Hebrews 2:17).

Let us see His promise in the Old Testament:

“Strengthen the feeble hands, steady the knees that give way; say to those with fearful hearts, "Be strong, do not fear; your God will come, he will come with vengeance; with divine retribution he will come to save you." Then will the eyes of the blind be opened and the ears of the deaf unstopped.Then will the lame leap like a deer, and the mute tongue shout for joy. Water will gush forth in the wilderness and streams in the desert.”

Isaiah 35:3-6

Let us see the fulfilment (achievement) of that promise in the New Testament:

“Then the disciples of John reported to him concerning all these things. And John, calling two of his disciples to him, sent them to Jesus, saying, “Are You the Coming One, or do we look for another?”
When the men had come to Him, they said, “John the Baptist has sent us to You, saying, ‘Are You the Coming One, or do we look for another?’” And that very hour He cured many of infirmities, afflictions, and evil spirits; and to many blind He gave sight.
Jesus answered and said to them, “Go and tell John the things you have seen and heard: that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, the poor have the gospel preached to them. And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me.”

Luke 7:18-23; Matthew 11:1-5

When John the Baptist Sends Messengers to Jesus in order to ask Him if He were the Coming One, did Jesus answered “Yes”? No, He didn’t.
Jesus simply asked John The Baptist to refer to what the Prophets wrote about Him in The Old Testament. Please read Isaiah 61:1-3 and Luke 4:16-21.

“Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever”.

Hebrews 13:8

The Savior in the Old Testament (Yahweh) is the same one in the New Testament (Jesus). The Almighty God, our Redeemer made the promise in the old alliance and He came indeed in a body of flesh, bore the name “Jesus-Christ” to achieve the work of redemption in the new alliance.

Up to that point I have not discovered two distinct people yet but there is the same God, the Father who took the attribute of Son in order to achieve the work of redemption(Acts 4:12).

Jesus was without sin (1 Peter 1: 19), but He was made sinned for us, so that we became in Him justice of God (2 Corinthians 5:21).


There is “one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Ephesians 4:5-6

Who is the Father?

Who is the Son?

Who is the Holy Spirit?

They are not three people, but they are three different demonstrations of the single God (Yahweh)!

1-one God and Father of all, who is above all(Yahweh)

2-and through all( the man Jesus: Yahweh manifested in the flesh)

3-and in you all (The Holy Spirit).


THE FATHER, THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT REPRESENT ONE PERSON: JESUS CHRIST.

Indeed, Jesus said:

“And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever- the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

“A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also. At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you”.

John 14:16-20

Can someone explain the following sentence?

“At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you”.

Jesus Christ is in His Father, and He is in us.

Do you see three people here in each believer?

I see one person. Jesus the man, promised to come back and to live in the believers as the Helper. Jesus is the Helper, the Holy Spirit, living in us. Amen!

This is the reason why Brother Paul said:

“I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me”.

Galatians 2:20

Christ as the Holy Spirit lives in the believer. Amen!

Our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 6:19)

Our body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.

Besides, we must glorify God in our body and in our spirit, which are God’s (1 Corinthians 6:20).

Please tell me, according to the biblical passages above, would our body be inhabited by three distinct people: the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit?
Please, stop cutting out God in small pieces!

The Son lives in the Father. The son lives in us and the Father lives in us. But we are inhabited by one Spirit, the Holy Spirit, Christ, the Almighty God (2 Corinthians 3: 17, Isaiah 63: 10).

Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit:

“Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty”.

2 Corinthians 3:17

God (Yahweh) is the Holy Spirit:

“But they rebelled and grieved His Holy Spirit; So He turned Himself against them as an enemy, And He fought against them”.

Isaiah 63:10, John 4:24

“But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the HOLY SPIRIT and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to GOD.”

Acts 5:3-4

Ananias has lied to the Holy Spirit. Ananias has lied to God (Yahweh).
God (Yahweh) is the Holy Spirit: Please compare Isaiah 6:8-9 to Acts 28:25-27. Yahweh, the Holy Spirit spoke rightly through Isaiah the prophet to our fathers. Amen!
The Bible declares that Mary was found with child of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 1:18, Luke 1:35).

This Holy Spirit is Yahweh Himself; this is the reason why the Son (the body of flesh, the man Jesus) Who was born took the name “YAHSHUA” which means: “GOD SAVES”. JAHSHUA is God manifested in the flesh in order to save us.
That Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ (Galatians 4:6, Acts 16:7, Philippians 1:19).
That Spirit of Christ was in the Prophets of the Old Testament testifying beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow:
“ Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. To them it was revealed that, not to themselves, but to us they were ministering the things which now have been reported to you through those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven - things which angels desire to look into”.

1 Peter 1:10-12


THE MAN JESUS IS COMPARABLE TO THE BRONZE SERPENT LIFTED IN THE WILDERNESS

The Father is God (1Corinthians 15: 24). The Father is not the Son when we refer only to the physical body in which God has been incarnated: the man Jesus. God took a body of flesh (1Timothy 3: 16). This body of flesh called Jesus was a man (hundred percent). God took a body of flesh so that He could suffer and die in order to save us (Isaiah 35: 4, Philippians 2: 5-8; Hebrews 2:9, 17; 12:2).

For this reason and for this reason only, any believer must confess that Jesus is the engendered Son of God by the Holy Spirit. It is here about the man Jesus (1Timothy 2: 5). Coming from God, His blood, His thoughts, and all His life were perfectly holy and without sin. The death and the devil did not have any power, any authority on Him. This body of flesh is comparable to the bronze serpent in the desert:

“And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life”.

John 3:14-15

Jesus, the son of Man was comparable to the serpent made by Moses. That serpent was an insignificant stuff, without life. But God put His life, His healing power in it. It was lifted up by Moses.

O Hallelujah! God, the source of the life was in this apparently trivial and inanimate bronze serpent. The Bible declares that: “So Moses made a bronze serpent, and put it on a pole; and so it was, if a serpent had bitten anyone, when he looked at the bronze serpent, he lived” (Numbers 21: 9).

In the same way, Jesus was a Man (hundred percent) created by God Himself (called Son of God), in which He put his own life in order to save us:
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life”.

John 3:16

“And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life”.

John 3:14-15

Do you understand now why the Holy Scriptures compare the Man Jesus to the bronze serpent?

“For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus”

1Timothy 2:5

Do you understand the Holy Scriptures? The Man Jesus, the Mediator between God and men is really God manifested in flesh.

There are not two or three people, but there is one God.

Indeed, Jesus said:

“I and My Father are one.”

John 10:30

“Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves”

John 14:9-11

“And he who sees Me sees Him who sent Me”.

John 12:45

“No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him”.

John 1:18

“All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him”.

Matthew 11:27

Consequently, the Father is the Son or the Son is the Father if we refer only to Jesus-Christ as the Holy Spirit.
Indeed, to overcome death and the devil, it was absolutely necessary that He was divine (hundred percent).
The Bible teaches that:

”For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell, and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on Earth or things in Heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross”.

Colossians 1:19-20

“For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;”

Colossians 2:9

It is for this reason that any believer must confess that Jesus-Christ is God (Yahweh). He is not a small god, who might be the second person of the trinity. He is not a small god beside Yahweh, but:

-the Powerful God, our Heavenly Father (Isaiah 9: 5-6),
-the true God and eternal life (1John 5: 20),
-the eternally blessed God(Romans 9: 5),
-Our great God and our Savior Jesus-Christ (Titus 2: 13),
-Immanuel: God with us (Matthew 1: 23) Alleluia!!!!
-the Alpha and the Omega, the Lord God, Who is, Who was, Who is to come, THE ALMIGHTY(Revelation 1:7-8)

As you see, Jesus has a double nature: divine and human:

« What if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before!”

John 6:62

Before, He was God (Yahweh). He became flesh, Son of Man in order to save us. He ascended where He was before. Then, He appeared to Saul on the Damascus road:

"And he said, “Who are You, Lord?” Then the Lord said, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. It is hard for you to kick against the goads.”

Acts 9:5

In Heaven, there is Jesus alone. There aren’t two “Gods” (the Father and His son) sitting side by side on the throne. No!


JESUS (JAHSHUA) IS THE NAME OF GOD (YAHWEH) WHO SAVES US


“And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS”.

Luke 1:31

Please, consider this link:

http://www.blackpreachingnetwork.com/forum/topics/916966:Topic:159914

Blessings,
Germain writes Ignorance of the Scrolls of Adonai'
The Torah of Moshie is the first five books of the TaNaKh...you are teaching replacement theology...Period.
Kind of like the federal government...we were once free to follow G-d..now it is Maritime Law..( since Lincoln) ...and a police state...which came first freedom or the Police state? Which is the real Bible~?~ The TaNakh of the Marriage at Har Sinai/ Mt Horeb,....To the people Israel and the Stranger with them~~~

Or is it a lie that Rome (RCC) states is a misconstructed fabrication ( Their words Not mine)
Time to go and study....
Hope every body enjoyed the High Holy days of the Bible...shalom,
ShekinahLife

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