Grace Given to Sin? - Black Preaching Network2024-03-29T14:16:44Zhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/grace-given-to-sin?commentId=916966%3AComment%3A789272&feed=yes&xn_auth=noListen to this statement take…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-06-12:916966:Comment:8011972009-06-12T20:23:07.749ZRest Of God Ministrieshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/RestOfGodMinistries
Listen to this statement taken out of a book by Watchman Nee "From Glory to Glory,"......."As long as a person is kept in the grace of God, he has nothing to fear regarding the matter of "sins forgiven." Even so, if anyone should think that he can waste the grace of God - that is to say, "Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?" (Romans 6.1)- let him read the following sobering words: "Behold then the goodness and severity of God: toward them that fell, severity; but toward thee, God's…
Listen to this statement taken out of a book by Watchman Nee "From Glory to Glory,"......."As long as a person is kept in the grace of God, he has nothing to fear regarding the matter of "sins forgiven." Even so, if anyone should think that he can waste the grace of God - that is to say, "Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?" (Romans 6.1)- let him read the following sobering words: "Behold then the goodness and severity of God: toward them that fell, severity; but toward thee, God's goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou shalt be cut off" (Romans 11:22) Thou fool, do you not know that the grace of God is to lead you to repentance (see Romans 2:4) and not to encourage you to sin?<br />
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This was taken from the book "From Glory to Glory," The way we perceive sin & grace must line up with the scriptures. The reason why it is so much sin in the church is because of this improper view of sin & grace. View this video "Why do some Christians live in sin" at <a href="http://www.restofgod.com">www.restofgod.com</a><br />
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GRA…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-06-08:916966:Comment:7892722009-06-08T16:37:45.758ZN'ZI Amani Germainhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/KouassiKouameGermain
Grace Given to Sin?<br />
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NO!<br />
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GRACE IS NOT A LICENSE TO SIN.<br />
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Please, read Titus 2:11-14<br />
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“ 11For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. 12It teaches us to say "No" to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, 13while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, 14who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that…
Grace Given to Sin?<br />
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NO!<br />
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GRACE IS NOT A LICENSE TO SIN.<br />
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Please, read Titus 2:11-14<br />
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“ 11For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. 12It teaches us to say "No" to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, 13while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, 14who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good”.<br />
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EVEN, GRACE IS MORE REQUIRING THAN THE LAW OF MOSES(TORAH).<br />
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Indeed, our Lord Jesus said:<br />
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"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”<br />
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Matthew 5:27-28<br />
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Our Lord said again:<br />
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“For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven"'.<br />
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Matthew 5:20<br />
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The Law of Christ(Galatians 6:2) is the standard for Christians' holy living . It is better than the obsolete Torah.<br />
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Blessings,<br />
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Bro. Germain "See this is why I have a pro…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-06-07:916966:Comment:7868492009-06-07T21:01:16.335ZLester Demings Jrhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/lesterdemingsjr
<b><i>"See this is why I have a problem with the body pointing a finger saying "prosperity teachers" (acting like the prodigal son's brother) we don't know what those bros/sisters have been through, and what they have been through may have been what others pouting couldn't go through."</i></b><br />
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<b>The "prosperity gospel" is NOT the gospel that needs to be taught as a biblical doctrine.<br />
Teaching prosperity gets people off the true focus of God.<br />
God is NOT some pimp, loan shark or any other…</b>
<b><i>"See this is why I have a problem with the body pointing a finger saying "prosperity teachers" (acting like the prodigal son's brother) we don't know what those bros/sisters have been through, and what they have been through may have been what others pouting couldn't go through."</i></b><br />
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<b>The "prosperity gospel" is NOT the gospel that needs to be taught as a biblical doctrine.<br />
Teaching prosperity gets people off the true focus of God.<br />
God is NOT some pimp, loan shark or any other negative word that explains someone giving something for something.<br />
We need to go back to teaching tithing, offerings and giving to others rather than always wanting somebody to give to them. The majority of these "prosperity" teachers are sheisters and pimps taking people's money.<br />
What is going to happen when all these "prophecies" they have told don't come true?<br />
Then what?<br />
When they get a bullet in they head from some crazy nut who believed their garbage and it don't come to pass then what shall we say????<br />
We need to realize God is not playing in these last days and He is going to be pulling covers and revealing alot about these people who get up lying and deceiving and those of you who following them are just as guilty.<br />
The Word says seek ye FIRST the kingdom and if you not doing that then you are a thief and a liar- plain and simple.</b> Min Lambert you said it in wo…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-06-02:916966:Comment:7717272009-06-02T16:07:22.969ZRev. James Williamshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/JamesWilliams
Min Lambert you said it in words I couldn't
Min Lambert you said it in words I couldn't I agree Sis. that grace is gi…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-06-02:916966:Comment:7716762009-06-02T15:45:21.353ZEvangelist Altha Fugetthttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/EvangelistAlthaFugett
I agree Sis. that grace is given by God in time of unknowing and knowing, alas we <u>will</u> reap what we sowed, but for those who understand the word, we can reap that harvest with the authority that Jesus' Name gives us.<br />
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Grace is <u>unmerited favor</u>, "The Lord will give us victory over situations we messed up" finances when we know we overcharged, good health when we neglected and abused our bodies, faithfulness when we were unfaithful.<br />
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See this is why I have a problem with the body…
I agree Sis. that grace is given by God in time of unknowing and knowing, alas we <u>will</u> reap what we sowed, but for those who understand the word, we can reap that harvest with the authority that Jesus' Name gives us.<br />
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Grace is <u>unmerited favor</u>, "The Lord will give us victory over situations we messed up" finances when we know we overcharged, good health when we neglected and abused our bodies, faithfulness when we were unfaithful.<br />
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See this is why I have a problem with the body pointing a finger saying "prosperity teachers" (acting like the prodigal son's brother) we don't know what those bros/sisters have been through, and what they have been through may have been what others pouting <u>couldn't</u> go through.<br />
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To them much given, much is required? Grace is awesome thing Rev. James...I believe God's…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-06-02:916966:Comment:7713112009-06-02T12:23:45.942ZTonya R. Lamberthttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/TonyaRLambert
Rev. James...I believe God's Grace covers regardless of a unknowing or a knowing sin. In the days of my mess when I was knowingly sinning...Good still covered me. However, once I came into a true understanding of my Father and the relationship that we share, I no longer knowingly sinned. I grew up though and I believe that is what is meant by growing in grace. I believe every Christian should get to the point where they no longer knowingly sin against their Father. However I believe God's Grace…
Rev. James...I believe God's Grace covers regardless of a unknowing or a knowing sin. In the days of my mess when I was knowingly sinning...Good still covered me. However, once I came into a true understanding of my Father and the relationship that we share, I no longer knowingly sinned. I grew up though and I believe that is what is meant by growing in grace. I believe every Christian should get to the point where they no longer knowingly sin against their Father. However I believe God's Grace is there for every believer whether they sin knowingly or unknowingly. It does not negate the fact that an individual will reap what they sow...the Word is clear, if you sow to the flesh, you will of the flesh reap corruption. Some say that is God's grace running out..I say that is reaping what you sowed just like the Word stated. I love that statement...the F…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-06-02:916966:Comment:7712812009-06-02T12:10:29.877ZTonya R. Lamberthttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/TonyaRLambert
I love that statement...the Fear of God will save you, but the Love of God will keep you. It is so true...it wasn't until my spiritual eyes were opened to the Love of God that He had for me that I could then learn to reciprocate...I know that He still loves me more than I love Him, but I know that when my flesh rises and I want to behave a certain way or do a certain thing that would clearly be against my Father..It is the love that I have for Him that constrains me. Elder Williams you are a…
I love that statement...the Fear of God will save you, but the Love of God will keep you. It is so true...it wasn't until my spiritual eyes were opened to the Love of God that He had for me that I could then learn to reciprocate...I know that He still loves me more than I love Him, but I know that when my flesh rises and I want to behave a certain way or do a certain thing that would clearly be against my Father..It is the love that I have for Him that constrains me. Elder Williams you are a man of wisdom and you definitely have a gift of making things plain. I appreciate and thank God for you. Minister Owens..I often state…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-06-02:916966:Comment:7712582009-06-02T12:00:50.921ZTonya R. Lamberthttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/TonyaRLambert
Minister Owens..I often state that the reason churchfolk don't seem to get real deliverance is because they have learn to perfect a phoniness regarding their holiness in the church. When I was in my mess, the church should have been the first place I felt comfortable enough to run to, but when I did go to my "brotha's and sista's" in christ, the brotha's tried to exploit it and the sista's judged me for it. However, nobody tried to assist me in the word. So....I probably struggled alot longer…
Minister Owens..I often state that the reason churchfolk don't seem to get real deliverance is because they have learn to perfect a phoniness regarding their holiness in the church. When I was in my mess, the church should have been the first place I felt comfortable enough to run to, but when I did go to my "brotha's and sista's" in christ, the brotha's tried to exploit it and the sista's judged me for it. However, nobody tried to assist me in the word. So....I probably struggled alot longer than I would have had I had a true godly person to assist. Now I make sure that I am there for my brother's and sister's in Christ who are struggling with what I once struggled with and I assist them in the word and I don't judge because I know the feeling of failure..feeling as though I have completely disppointed my God. "As love covers a multitude o…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-06-02:916966:Comment:7709802009-06-02T06:02:50.946ZLester Demings Jrhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/lesterdemingsjr
<b><i>"As love covers a multitude of sins. As we cannot judge the heart of someone, only the Lord can do that. And one might be in a real struggle, with ever desire to live holy, but for whatever reason their faith has not reach the place to break the stronghold, I do feel that grace for that person is still given. But again, we must look on the inside of the person and only God can do that. I hope I answer the question."</i></b><br />
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<b>I agree somewhat to what was said here HOWEVER when you grow…</b>
<b><i>"As love covers a multitude of sins. As we cannot judge the heart of someone, only the Lord can do that. And one might be in a real struggle, with ever desire to live holy, but for whatever reason their faith has not reach the place to break the stronghold, I do feel that grace for that person is still given. But again, we must look on the inside of the person and only God can do that. I hope I answer the question."</i></b><br />
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<b>I agree somewhat to what was said here HOWEVER when you grow in grace you learn not to make the same mistakes over and over again.<br />
The Word says that God will provide a way of escape.<br />
The Word says FLEE from sin.<br />
These two scriptures alone let's us know that there is safety in the will of God and we need to go back to teaching TOTAL obedience, TOTAL sanctification, TOTAL salvation, and TOTAL righteousness.<br />
Telling people that we have grace and you can rely on grace every time you make a "mistake" is not a good thing because what if they go out there and die in their sin?<br />
See, when I was growing up they told us you might get out there and not get back.<br />
But those messages aren't taught anymore because we want to lull people into a false sense of security.<br />
We need to start giving the TRUTH and not the fluff that has dominated the church for the past 15-20 years.</b> It means if we unknowly sin a…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-06-02:916966:Comment:7704702009-06-02T03:05:16.758ZRev. James Williamshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/JamesWilliams
It means if we unknowly sin against God his grace will rush in so we won't fall down that cliff, if I came up to you Min Lambert and hit you in the face, I knowly sinned and punch you right in the face; knowing and not knowing is two different things, but I thank God for his grace and mercy his love to me, Lets call this topic; Gods Grace to James Williams.
It means if we unknowly sin against God his grace will rush in so we won't fall down that cliff, if I came up to you Min Lambert and hit you in the face, I knowly sinned and punch you right in the face; knowing and not knowing is two different things, but I thank God for his grace and mercy his love to me, Lets call this topic; Gods Grace to James Williams.