How do you empower gay members without being judgmental? - Black Preaching Network2024-03-29T11:34:55Zhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/how-do-you-empower-gay-members?commentId=916966%3AComment%3A949202&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThat's because most of CHUCH…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-09-08:916966:Comment:15899162010-09-08T04:36:03.567ZMYBY/Moreh Yahoshua ben Yisraelhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/Moreh
<b>That's because most of CHUCH is full of them....</b>
<b>That's because most of CHUCH is full of them....</b> Empower?? Empower them to do…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-09-07:916966:Comment:15892232010-09-07T21:21:39.608ZDr. Barbara Norman Roberts, PhDhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/DrBarbaraNormanRobertsPhD
Empower?? Empower them to do what? I can speak for my self that I don't teach hatred. I have read what so many have written and I find it all interesting. I place homosexuality as sin and as a woman of God I yet preach and teach biblical principles (The Bible) as I would with alcoholics, dope dealers, prostitutes and so on and so forth. I love them all and with the leading of the Lord He empowers me to preach to the lost and teach the saved. The word is powerful some will come and stay and some…
Empower?? Empower them to do what? I can speak for my self that I don't teach hatred. I have read what so many have written and I find it all interesting. I place homosexuality as sin and as a woman of God I yet preach and teach biblical principles (The Bible) as I would with alcoholics, dope dealers, prostitutes and so on and so forth. I love them all and with the leading of the Lord He empowers me to preach to the lost and teach the saved. The word is powerful some will come and stay and some the Word will drive away (paraphrasing) because it sharper than any two edge sword (smile). All I can go on is what the scripture says and that the common people heard Him gladly so where does this leaves us. My opinions are not worth all the tea in China so I simply believe God. Now after saying all that just keeping it real God would have to strengthen me if there be male or female homosexuals over the young boys or girls. Not in God's house. Watch as well as pray (smile). What about wicca witches, one tried to join my church. Whew that's another story and God got the victory!! Watch as well as pray. Isn't it good to know them th…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-09-07:916966:Comment:15892022010-09-07T21:09:29.937ZDr. Barbara Norman Roberts, PhDhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/DrBarbaraNormanRobertsPhD
Isn't it good to know them that labour among us (smile).
Isn't it good to know them that labour among us (smile). And I would be delighted to h…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-03-01:916966:Comment:12423592010-03-01T21:20:33.883ZServant J. A. C. Majorshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ServantJACMajors
And I would be delighted to have you there! lol. In the meantime, keep on swinging that sword, and cutting down heathens in YHWH's house. The bible says "I WILL DECLARE HIS GLORY AMONGST THE HEATHEN!"<br />
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My ministry is a deliverance ministry, so I focus on giving people an alternative to their private and secret life. That alternative is Christ. It's not my job to follow them home and see what they are doing in their bedroom. But if I preach under the anointing, my sermon will follow them home…
And I would be delighted to have you there! lol. In the meantime, keep on swinging that sword, and cutting down heathens in YHWH's house. The bible says "I WILL DECLARE HIS GLORY AMONGST THE HEATHEN!"<br />
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My ministry is a deliverance ministry, so I focus on giving people an alternative to their private and secret life. That alternative is Christ. It's not my job to follow them home and see what they are doing in their bedroom. But if I preach under the anointing, my sermon will follow them home and it will follow them all the way to their bedroom. Nothing can deliver like YHWH'S word. "At my church, I don't even w…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-03-01:916966:Comment:12423582010-03-01T21:09:39.239ZLester Demings Jrhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/lesterdemingsjr
<i><b>"At my church, I don't even want to know someone's struggle so that I'm not clouded by it when it comes to preaching. The less I know about someone's dirt the better. That helps me to throw rocks without wondering who I hit. Keeps me agile in what I can say because I dont' know nothing about nobody. lol."</b></i><b><br />
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See, now if I saw more of this kind of ministry on the BPN then they wouldn't have to worry about me swinging my sword lol!!!<br />
I don't like to see anybody being "stoned" when…</b>
<i><b>"At my church, I don't even want to know someone's struggle so that I'm not clouded by it when it comes to preaching. The less I know about someone's dirt the better. That helps me to throw rocks without wondering who I hit. Keeps me agile in what I can say because I dont' know nothing about nobody. lol."</b></i><b><br />
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See, now if I saw more of this kind of ministry on the BPN then they wouldn't have to worry about me swinging my sword lol!!!<br />
I don't like to see anybody being "stoned" when Jesus never threw one.<br />
They fail to realize that Jesus NEVER judged a sinner but He DID judge the church of that day for their bias and unfair judgement.<br />
If I lived in Dallas you'd have an honorary member lol!!!</b> What I think is that people a…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-03-01:916966:Comment:12423572010-03-01T21:06:53.961ZServant J. A. C. Majorshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ServantJACMajors
What I think is that people are not really getting saved AND FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST. Because sweet and bitter water cannot flow from the same fountain. If you are saved and truly filled with YHWH's spirit, you will not allow the sin of others to dictate your service to the Lord. In other words, we don't come to church to find out or wonder if the preacher is gay, we come to hear what thus saith the Lord. If YHWH's could use a rooster and an ass to preach, surely he can use a sinner. Our…
What I think is that people are not really getting saved AND FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST. Because sweet and bitter water cannot flow from the same fountain. If you are saved and truly filled with YHWH's spirit, you will not allow the sin of others to dictate your service to the Lord. In other words, we don't come to church to find out or wonder if the preacher is gay, we come to hear what thus saith the Lord. If YHWH's could use a rooster and an ass to preach, surely he can use a sinner. Our concentration should not be on the singer, the dancer, the preacher the musician, it should be on the anointing of the Holy Ghost. Even Paul knew this when he said "I KEEP MY BODY UNDER SUBJECTION LEST BY ANY MEANS WHEN I HAVE PREACHED TO OTHERS I MYSELF BECOME A CAST AWAY." What that said is, <b>"I'm having flesh problems too, but I'm gonna keep to myself and work on myself, becasue I don't want to preach yall' into heaven and then end up in hell."</b> I think the reason we can agr…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-03-01:916966:Comment:12423492010-03-01T20:58:29.569ZServant J. A. C. Majorshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ServantJACMajors
I think the reason we can agree is because we are probably closer to the same age which means we have a different way of approaching real life situations and questions than a couple of generations before us.<br />
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I grew up in the Holiness church. We were taught that Holiness is walking in the ways of Yahweh. And that's the transformation and reformation part. You can't walk in his ways unless you know his ways. Joking about someones "thorn" is probably not walking in his ways. Condemning someone's…
I think the reason we can agree is because we are probably closer to the same age which means we have a different way of approaching real life situations and questions than a couple of generations before us.<br />
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I grew up in the Holiness church. We were taught that Holiness is walking in the ways of Yahweh. And that's the transformation and reformation part. You can't walk in his ways unless you know his ways. Joking about someones "thorn" is probably not walking in his ways. Condemning someone's struggle is probably not walking in his ways. He said "FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD (<i><b>NOT THE CHURCH</b></i>) THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON...."<br />
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At my church, I don't even want to know someone's struggle so that I'm not clouded by it when it comes to preaching. The less I know about someone's dirt the better. That helps me to throw rocks without wondering who I hit. Keeps me agile in what I can say because I dont' know nothing about nobody. lol. I try to remember that the bible says "EVERY MAN THAT LIVETH GODLY SHALL SUFFER PERSECUTION." In that, I'm prepared to have members that deal with homosexuality, theif, alcoholism, drugs, cheating, must I go on.....But all of us have one thing in common, we are all sinners saved by grace! peace THANK YOU!!!
THANK YOU!!!
THA…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-03-01:916966:Comment:12423472010-03-01T20:33:46.409ZLester Demings Jrhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/lesterdemingsjr
<b>THANK YOU!!!<br />
THANK YOU!!!<br />
THANK YOU!!!<br />
I agree with EVERY WORD you posted here.<br />
Granted, there are some homosexuals who don't want to change and enjoy their lifestyle but then again there are some homosexuals that go to church week after week who DESIRE to change but how can they be changed when they keep hearing gay jokes, negative comments and condemnation?<br />
How can they be changed when there is no one speaking about a change that can happen?<br />
How can they be changed when those who HAVE been…</b>
<b>THANK YOU!!!<br />
THANK YOU!!!<br />
THANK YOU!!!<br />
I agree with EVERY WORD you posted here.<br />
Granted, there are some homosexuals who don't want to change and enjoy their lifestyle but then again there are some homosexuals that go to church week after week who DESIRE to change but how can they be changed when they keep hearing gay jokes, negative comments and condemnation?<br />
How can they be changed when there is no one speaking about a change that can happen?<br />
How can they be changed when those who HAVE been changed are intimidated into not speaking about the change that Jesus can bring?<br />
The last line of your post was the most important piece of the salvation puzzle!!!</b> The problem is they are findi…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-03-01:916966:Comment:12423452010-03-01T20:23:41.463ZMYBY/Moreh Yahoshua ben Yisraelhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/Moreh
<b>The problem is they are finding sanctuary in the so-called church because the so-called church (most) are corrupt...AND IT'S NOT JUST HOMOSEXUALITY!!!!<br />
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MEN AND WOMEN ARE CONCEIVING CHILDREN OUT OF WEDLOCK.<br />
CHURCHES ARE HOLDING PARTIES.<br />
SINNERS CONTROL THE "PULPITS"<br />
MONEY IS BEING SWINDLED FROM THE LESS ABLE.<br />
SIN IN THE CAMP IS IGNORED.<br />
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THE LIST IS SOOO LONG....<br />
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There are people on this site that i've seen in the past post things against a subject however, they themselves are bound by the…</b>
<b>The problem is they are finding sanctuary in the so-called church because the so-called church (most) are corrupt...AND IT'S NOT JUST HOMOSEXUALITY!!!!<br />
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MEN AND WOMEN ARE CONCEIVING CHILDREN OUT OF WEDLOCK.<br />
CHURCHES ARE HOLDING PARTIES.<br />
SINNERS CONTROL THE "PULPITS"<br />
MONEY IS BEING SWINDLED FROM THE LESS ABLE.<br />
SIN IN THE CAMP IS IGNORED.<br />
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THE LIST IS SOOO LONG....<br />
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There are people on this site that i've seen in the past post things against a subject however, they themselves are bound by the very same sin...Some have confessed some have been exposed...People keep hanging on to this RELIGION and that is not what will get you the Shalom you need in the Most High, it is going back to his original set up of Laws and starting there...Loving your neighbor began in the Torah (that is what Yahshua was quoting from)...So if you want to know what love is all about you have to get back to THE FATHER YAH!! Not worship the Son and remove the Laws of the Father with the so-called NEW religion of the Son.<br />
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IF J-SuS IS THE WAY TO THE FATHER, WHY ARE PEOPLE LEAVING OUT THE FATHER AND HIS LAWS WHICH THE TRUE SON FOLLOWED...THE CHURCH AS IS CANNOT HELP YOU IT IS THE POWER AND TEACHINGS OF THE MOST HIGH THAT IS NEEDED AND YOU WON'T FIND THAT IN MOST CHURCHES...<br />
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IT (YAH'S WAY" IS NOT DONE AWAY WITH...<br />
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SHALOM</b> How do you know someone is ho…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-03-01:916966:Comment:12423262010-03-01T19:45:33.068ZServant J. A. C. Majorshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ServantJACMajors
How do you know someone is homosexual unless they tell you? If we didn't let people sing and preach and ordain people just because we thought that there was some type of sin in their life, no one would be a member of Black Preaching Network. None of us would be worthy.<br />
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You see it is not the sin in your life that takes you down in the House the Lord. Even Paul had a thorn in his flesh. It is <u><b>unrepented sin that destroys the church</b></u>. Homosexuals preaching is no better than an thief…
How do you know someone is homosexual unless they tell you? If we didn't let people sing and preach and ordain people just because we thought that there was some type of sin in their life, no one would be a member of Black Preaching Network. None of us would be worthy.<br />
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You see it is not the sin in your life that takes you down in the House the Lord. Even Paul had a thorn in his flesh. It is <u><b>unrepented sin that destroys the church</b></u>. Homosexuals preaching is no better than an thief preaching. The bible says "GIFTS AND CALLING ARE WITHOUT REPENTANCE." But what makes the difference is when you repent of your sin. Even if you have to repent all day long, repent. He is faithful and just to forgive. That's why homosexuals or doing so much in the church, they are looking for forgivness and wondering what service will be the one to change their life. If homosexuality is so much fun, why even go to church? People want change that's why they come. So we cannot judge but we can maintain order. And if that means preaching that it's wrong to stop our young boys in puberty from going that way, then preach we must. But if we sit back and not say anything about sexual immorality in the church, we will never overcome the mind game of it all. <u><b>Transformation and Reformation is the key. That's what the church is all about.</b></u>