Wayne, when we first started this conversation you were alright. But as every argument and point you made was unwrapped like a candy wrapper, you went on attack mode.
I could care less if you called me gay, straight, crooked or late for dinner. The truth is, a man's words exposes his heart and fears. In your world, being exposed as homosexual is a nightmare. Being called gay when you are not, is demeaning in your world. In mine?
I could care less. If others are really concerned with my sexuality they can easily google or search for me to find out why I am so passionate about the issue of Religious Based Heterosexism and the Black Church. I have a book, "The Church Has AIDS: Essays on Sexuality, Sexual Orientation, Taboos and the Black Church" that looks closely at this issue.
Over the years I have encountered many men like you, so angry and bitter but why?
Well, Gerald they always told me a it pig will squeal.
He may be dealing with his sexuality.
I know there are PLENTY homosexual preachers hiding on this site alone- I've encountered a few of them.
When I encounter men like Wayne I just pray that their minds and hearts are healed because the only way to be healed is to know the reason for the pain.
Bishop I think there is some confusion between being loving towards someone in the sin, and condoning it. I believe that there are many who are fearful that if they show mercy, that if they love and serve the sinner, that somehow they will lose whatever salvation they think they have. Is this not something that was disputed by the life of Christ. Those to whom He endeared Himself the most to, the prostitutes, the adulterers, the sinners, and the ones the religious leaders of that century thought the least of. Why is it that the church that is called by His name seemingly has forgotten that our ministry is not to each other as much as it is for those sinners that we tend to shun
I think and this of course is my opinion is that when you have a person like Wayne who is more religious than realistic. And when you have a person like Min Palmer who is passionate about his service, sometimes the middle ground gets blurred. The Bible does teach us that if we see our enemy or those who are opposed to us thirsty, we are commanded to give them water, if they are hungry, we are commanded to give them food, homeless, we are commanded to give them shelter… This is something that unfortunately does not fly because we have allowed our religious views to cloud, and color what we are supposed to be about. It is not the job of the church to point out the sin in others. People who are sinners already know that they are sinners, they do not need us to point it out for them. Paul tells us that we should consider ourselves the chief of sinners,( I Tim 1:15, contrary to popular belief, Paul did not call himself the chief of sinners he was saying that we all need to accept that we in the church have to concede that we are the chief of sinners) not others but the men and women we see in the mirror. But we don’t, we would rather attempt to give ourselves a feeling of superiority by pointing out the sins of others. Its rather sad, that we feel we have no worth if we are not making other people feel bad about themselves. Notice I said religious views, not biblical views, but religious, perhaps we would do well to really examine some of our views in the light of scripture concerning what we should be about.