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Wayne, do you even know what refute means?!
Lol dude you sound ignorant using words that you don't even know the meaning to trying to sound all educated.
Here is the most powerful and scholarly Theologian in the world on human sexuality, with his works on homosexuality and what the Bible actually teach concerning this horrific behavior and lifestyle. He is so sharp that literally no homosexual group will debate him on the subject! They all back down and make excuses for not debating this world renown scholar!
Read it and be blessed!
Walter Wink is good as well http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=1265
A good site for those who are trying to fing middle ground is here: http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibl.htm
they cover both sides. Again the issue is legal marriage as defined by the federal government, you may argue morality when this is actually a legal issue. Marriage in America is an issue of Law. That is the issue. Now for those reading they can see who stayed on the issued and who went on negative rants.
Gerald:
Gay marriage is NOT a Civil Right. Here is what Justice Elena Kagan said at her confirmation hearings when asked if she believed that the Constitution provided for SSM: "There is no right to same sex marriage in the US Constitution." (May 2010) So what "Civil Rights" are you referring to? As you would surely know, Ms. Kagan is reputed to be a practicing Lesbian herself. So yes, my morality is on good solid grounds, and if it means redefining what marriage is and what it represents, then it is without question a moral issue and not a civil matter!
Again your morality cannot deny others their civil rights. As far as Justice Kagan she has explained the context of her answer and the answer itself. People look closely at the tricks of the religious right (not saying you Wayne but where you got this info)
they will take a quote and run with it. That why it is important to follow what Dr. Brown has stated and use your own words. You can't use your own words, you still have not really answered anything of substance.
Again marriage is a civil issue. Where do you get a marriage license from? The church or the Court House?
Is God in the constitution?
The statement from Supreme Court Justice, Elena Kagan, in front of the confirmation hearings committe is on official record as to what she said and the context in which she said it.
I have a very good handle on "context", and not only did I intently listen to her words on live television, I also read the transcript, and she said in the simple context in which she was pointedly ask, "Does the US Constitution provides for same sex marriage?" to which she very simply responded, "There is no right to same sex marriage in the US Constitution."
The Government works as a tool/instrument of the justice, order, management, and governance for Almighty God, and she is accountable to the God who created Government in the first place (Romans 13). Therefore, I got my license from God through the State Government, and more importantly, I got God's sanction, approval, and blessing on my marriage.
This leads me to a straight and forward question to YOU: would you perform a so-called "marriage" between two men? If so, who would you pray to in asking to bless, ordain, sanction, and approve of that perversion? Certainly not the God of the Bible???? So, I'll be very interested in seeing your response especially to that question.
"You Can Separate Church from State; BUT, You Cannot Separate God from Law" (Author unknown)
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