How to know if an opportunity to preach is for you? - Black Preaching Network2024-03-29T15:04:50Zhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/how-to-know-if-an-opportunity?commentId=916966%3AComment%3A382372&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAMEN, AMEN, and AMEN. When I…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-01-22:916966:Comment:3865952009-01-22T22:23:06.339ZBishop S. JaNine Hyman, Ph.D.https://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/BishopSJanineHymanChiefApostle
<u><b>AMEN, AMEN, and AMEN.</b></u> When I served under my pastor, and late bishop, it was nothing for them to tell me I couldn't go preach somewhere because they or the church had an engagement (or I just wasn't ready). Did I shut it down--you betta believe it. I wasn't going out there among wolves uncovered and out of order--No Suh!!!!<br />
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Most of us preachers under that ministry didn't even visit a lot of churches if our leaders did not approve of them because you dont know WHAT you're eating…
<u><b>AMEN, AMEN, and AMEN.</b></u> When I served under my pastor, and late bishop, it was nothing for them to tell me I couldn't go preach somewhere because they or the church had an engagement (or I just wasn't ready). Did I shut it down--you betta believe it. I wasn't going out there among wolves uncovered and out of order--No Suh!!!!<br />
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Most of us preachers under that ministry didn't even visit a lot of churches if our leaders did not approve of them because you dont know WHAT you're eating if you eat from every body's table. You're right--there may be a reason your pastor or bishop doesn't fellowship with certain ministries. If I can't trust my leader's Holy Ghost and ability to lead me--- even in ministry---then I also do not trust the God who I claimed sent me there.<br />
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This is good stuff Luckett (:<br />
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Thank God you are actually being PASTORED Rev. Luckett. This is truly a blessing to your life and ministry. Whoever signs your license to preach certainly ought have jurisdiction over it. Now Bruh ...you know many fol…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-01-22:916966:Comment:3865292009-01-22T22:02:18.146ZBishop S. JaNine Hyman, Ph.D.https://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/BishopSJanineHymanChiefApostle
Now Bruh ...you know many folks would have left the church if their pastor told them that. Our egos often tell us that pastors are intimidated by us, are trying to hold us back, or are trying to control us. We have to know that before God called us, He already prepared a people for us (or there would be no need for us in the first place). Our call is but one of the many ways that the Sovereign God uses to solve a problem among His people. Before time, he saw the need and the problem, and…
Now Bruh ...you know many folks would have left the church if their pastor told them that. Our egos often tell us that pastors are intimidated by us, are trying to hold us back, or are trying to control us. We have to know that before God called us, He already prepared a people for us (or there would be no need for us in the first place). Our call is but one of the many ways that the Sovereign God uses to solve a problem among His people. Before time, he saw the need and the problem, and purposed that some one would be a corrective for that problem...it is actually THAT which called us. So the people were created for us long before we were ever aware of a call. This is where I put my confidence.<br />
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I appreciate your honesty here Rev. Luckett. This is one of the reason I took down my MySpace page...I wasn't doing much networking to amount to anything...it was poor use of my time....while I did meet some terrific people out in cyberspace, my main motive was exposure. Plus, my MAMMA said she wasn't feeling it--ROFL!!! Another Bishp suggested I put myself out there and catch up with the technology, and set up my page for me. It is for some, but at this particular time, it is not the audience for me. While people can't call you if they have no exposure to you--we do have to be careful about our motives. When I went to check out the MySpace and FaceBook pages of my leader and mentors--they had NONE....so I followed the leader.<br />
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You said a mouth full Rev. Luckett Great question Pastor Evans.…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-01-22:916966:Comment:3864272009-01-22T21:39:59.322ZBishop S. JaNine Hyman, Ph.D.https://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/BishopSJanineHymanChiefApostle
Great question Pastor Evans.<br />
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I don't know that there is one answer to this complex issue---I guess there is just no cookie-cutter approach to it. I can share my experiences and 2 cents worth of expertise here to add to the pot---LOL.<br />
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Normally, when I am invited to speak, especially by those I do not know, I often ask 3-4 questions to the person contacting me. Interestingly, that person usually has to go back to the drawing board. I have found that asking such questions has caused a DROP in…
Great question Pastor Evans.<br />
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I don't know that there is one answer to this complex issue---I guess there is just no cookie-cutter approach to it. I can share my experiences and 2 cents worth of expertise here to add to the pot---LOL.<br />
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Normally, when I am invited to speak, especially by those I do not know, I often ask 3-4 questions to the person contacting me. Interestingly, that person usually has to go back to the drawing board. I have found that asking such questions has caused a DROP in the number of calls I am getting---LOL. Also, when you tell people that you cannot come, if you do not give them a reason, they get a bit antsy, and if you tell them that you do not believe the assignment is for you but can make a recommendation for somebody else--they often get offended. Those 3 or 4 questions are:<br />
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1) who is your senior pastor (if an assistant is calling in their stead) and what do they need to happen in the ministry as a result of my coming?<br />
2) who is the spiritual covering (even if they are a bishop)?<br />
3) what would be my purpose for coming (other than to preach an event--since preachers come a dime a dozen)?<br />
3) since I am an apostle, what specifically is my apostolic assignment--in other words, how can I help your pastor or leader?<br />
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Usually, if I feel any anxiety at all--it's something worth praying about before I take the engagement. Truthfully, we should be on our faces any way about EVERY thing do in the name of our Father. In addition, if I get the sense that they just want somebody to raise money (as many often do), or need a draw card to get more people to their event, OR if they just want good preaching---these things are not usually my assignment. Preaching has become BIG business, and if we are not careful, we can be pulled into ecclessiastical CAPITALISM "in Jesus' Name".<br />
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I think central to this issue is that each minister be keenly aware of his or her 5-fold designation in ministry, as well as the boundaries and spiritual jurisdictions of his or her ecclessiastical position. For instance, pastors, elders, overseers, and teachers, are designed specifically for the local assembly, and with some restriction--to their denominational organization or reformation. While it is a common practice for many pastors to travel extensively preaching outside of their local and organizational assemblies, they are generally not called to the body--that is not their function. I know this will be very unpopular with many preachers, but by biblical principle, it is so. This is why many local pastors have a hard time teaching their own flocks because so many pastors are on TV teaching the nation what should be food and doctrine for the local house. They are endoctrinating people they have no jurisdiction and authority over. Local pastors have to contend with it, and try to teach people who are being bombarded on tv, internet, and radio by the teaching (and EVERY wind of doctrine) of pastors who are not called to feed that flock.<br />
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Evangelists are called both to the local church (under an overseer) and into the world. They are not typically revalists and are not usually assigned to preach in other churches, conferences, and platforms unless the agenda is to bring the gospel of the Kingdom to those who do not know it, or have not received it. In addition,they can bring revival and renewal, and turn hearts back to God.<br />
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Prophets are typically for the local assembly, the body at large, and for local or national government. It is a shame that more of our TRUE prophets are not being called upon to interpret the mind, will, and mood of God to his people and to warn us of those things that are to come. We have grossly misunderstood the prophetic office---it is not about prophesying material stuff, or even giving personal prophecy (that may simply be some one operating in the gifts of the word of wisdom, knowledge, and discernment). We really need prophets who are PURE....they must really be careful where they go because if God has not put Himself in theirs mouths for a particular location for a particular people, it usually doesn't turn out too well for that prophet. They must even be careful where they visit--since by reason of their authority--their presence is a sanction of whatever is going on in that place.<br />
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Apostles are sent to the world, to systems, and generally to the body. Since their job is to correct doctrine and doctrine, govern, establish order, and to sanctify God in the sight of the people (among many other things), they DEFINITELY cannot go every where or speak to every body. When they go where God has not sent HIMSELF (in them), it does not fare well for them nor the congregation. They are so keen in revelation and profound truths that most folks cannot take them--just as they could not take Yeshua. If they are not being run out of a few synagogues, as Yeshua taught, they are probably ministering in the wrong place, to the wrong people or not giving people the full council of God--lol<br />
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Bishop McNeil has also lifted up some great pointers about going out, and taking engagements. Finally, I believe we should ALL check our motives when we accept an engagement --(or invite or market ourselves). Might ANY of these be possible motivators for our accepting engagements or marketing ourselves or ministries?<br />
1) MONEY<br />
2) Exposure<br />
3) the need to be needed<br />
4) just happy that somebody wants YOU<br />
5) an opportunity to merchandize (sell your unsold books, tapes, DVDs etc)<br />
6) an opoportunity to scout for members, staff, other preachers to join forces with us<br />
7) an opportunity to BUILD OURSELVES A NAME OR A KINGDOM<br />
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Evan as a bishop and apostle, if I do not feel ease in my spirit about taking an engagement, I consult with other apostles and prophets in my circle of influence. TWO is better than ONE. Even with all of this, I've missed a few times, and KNEW once I walked in the building--"oops, I ain't got NO business here".....ROFL....so I guess we keep praying, keep at it, keep examining our motives, keep discovering our true purpose and the audience that God has pre-selected for us before we EVER accepted the call to ministry, stay in our lane, and keep seeking council of authorized persons God has put in our lives. I think when we do, we will hit more times than we miss.<br />
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Well, I guess this was about 4 cents worth....but Thanks for putting this out there Pastor--there have been some interesting responses on the thread.<br />
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+++sjh Now Bishop, you know you done…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-01-22:916966:Comment:3862662009-01-22T20:32:25.970ZBishop S. JaNine Hyman, Ph.D.https://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/BishopSJanineHymanChiefApostle
Now Bishop, you know you done opened up a can of worms.....LOL...you lifted up some very good points in your list of things to consider. Well said....particularly about being submitted to one's local pastor. I would add that if one is a senior pastor who submits to headship--these most these items you list should be considered as well.<br />
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Shalom<br />
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Now Bishop, you know you done opened up a can of worms.....LOL...you lifted up some very good points in your list of things to consider. Well said....particularly about being submitted to one's local pastor. I would add that if one is a senior pastor who submits to headship--these most these items you list should be considered as well.<br />
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+++sjh Amen And Amen againtag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-01-22:916966:Comment:3854882009-01-22T15:28:09.170ZBishop R.G.Malloryhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/BishopRGMallory
Amen And Amen again
Amen And Amen again Well the only pattern we can…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-01-22:916966:Comment:3854772009-01-22T15:25:35.338ZBishop R.G.Malloryhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/BishopRGMallory
<b>Well the only pattern we can follow is the word. Did any of the Apostles agonize in prayer about preaching? they turned every opportunity into an engadgement. The reason they did so was because they understood the call on their life. to Go into all the world. First if the egadgement is not your call then dont accept because it does not fit. In other words if they invite you to a miracle crusade and miracles are not following your ministry this may not fit. if its an opportunity for you to…</b>
<b>Well the only pattern we can follow is the word. Did any of the Apostles agonize in prayer about preaching? they turned every opportunity into an engadgement. The reason they did so was because they understood the call on their life. to Go into all the world. First if the egadgement is not your call then dont accept because it does not fit. In other words if they invite you to a miracle crusade and miracles are not following your ministry this may not fit. if its an opportunity for you to flow in what God has called you to then why are you praying? In Exodus 14 Moses was praying and God said Why are you crying to me Speak to the people and tell them to move forward. Moses was praying and Gods answer to him was the word is in your mouth and the rod is in your hand use them. I encourage you to learn and know your calling and once you know it; walk in it. If you are under a Pastor Submit to his authority, support the Vision that you are a part of . Be faithful to the house of God where you are serving. Give your tithes God wont bless a robber. If your leader is anointed that anointing will fall on you and doors will open.</b> WORD...thanks for sharing the…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-01-22:916966:Comment:3837072009-01-22T02:40:01.777ZLady Divinehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/reeree
<b>WORD...thanks for sharing the wisdom Bishop.</b>
<b>WORD...thanks for sharing the wisdom Bishop.</b> My Brother in Christ:
Greeti…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-01-22:916966:Comment:3835242009-01-22T01:13:41.467ZPastor Norman W. Scotthttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/NormanWScott
My Brother in Christ:<br />
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Greetings in Jesus Name.<br />
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Please my Brother, do the following:<br />
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1. Please Pray.<br />
2. Please Wait.<br />
3. Please be sure you are in line with the vision and mission of your Pastor (your covering), and make sure you clear all your opportunites for ministry inside and outside of your home church with your Pastor.<br />
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If these things are not being done or followed, God will not expand any territory.<br />
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Much Love and Abundant Blessings,<br />
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Pastor Norman W. Scott
My Brother in Christ:<br />
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Greetings in Jesus Name.<br />
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Please my Brother, do the following:<br />
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1. Please Pray.<br />
2. Please Wait.<br />
3. Please be sure you are in line with the vision and mission of your Pastor (your covering), and make sure you clear all your opportunites for ministry inside and outside of your home church with your Pastor.<br />
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If these things are not being done or followed, God will not expand any territory.<br />
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Much Love and Abundant Blessings,<br />
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Pastor Norman W. Scott I believe Preacher, If God op…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-01-21:916966:Comment:3830932009-01-21T22:00:25.136ZElder/Servant Chan M.Pratthttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ElderProphetCMPratt
<b>I believe Preacher, If God opens a door for ministry, walk into it!<br />
The Scripture says be ready to give an answer.<br />
In these Last days, we have to go into the Highways and Hedges and Preach this WORD! and if a Pastor opens a Door, Declare your position in Christ! I understand we must be careful. and yes being faithful to your home church is Vital, how ever,<br />
I will say this and may make some people Upset....But! I have never seen in my whole saved life! Saints afraid to Step into to the Fire,…</b>
<b>I believe Preacher, If God opens a door for ministry, walk into it!<br />
The Scripture says be ready to give an answer.<br />
In these Last days, we have to go into the Highways and Hedges and Preach this WORD! and if a Pastor opens a Door, Declare your position in Christ! I understand we must be careful. and yes being faithful to your home church is Vital, how ever,<br />
I will say this and may make some people Upset....But! I have never seen in my whole saved life! Saints afraid to Step into to the Fire, to face the enemy! Stop being scared! Be about the Father's Business!<br />
Preach the exceptional year of the Lord! and get souls Saved and Delivered!<br />
Here is one thing! ASK GOD clearly! any door opened give me..a sign and. lay a flees.. ( That flees only you and the Father will know! )<br />
And then GO MAN GO!<br />
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This is Just one man's Thoughts..<br />
Your Brother<br />
His Servant<br />
Elder C M.Pratt<br />
WaterBoy 4 Jesus</b> "Many are called, but few are…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-01-21:916966:Comment:3823882009-01-21T17:36:26.016ZBishop J. T. McNeilhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/BishopJTMcNeil
"Many are called, but few are chosen," were the immortal words of Christ Jesus. We live in an age where the church has become very competitive unfortunately. If one is not careful, it is easy to think that your ministry is not prospering or effective unless you have a great following or are getting an abundance of "OPPORTUNTIES" to preach.<br />
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If you are a Pastor, first you must understand that all ground is not good ground. There are many who are Warlocks, and Witches who are simply looking to…
"Many are called, but few are chosen," were the immortal words of Christ Jesus. We live in an age where the church has become very competitive unfortunately. If one is not careful, it is easy to think that your ministry is not prospering or effective unless you have a great following or are getting an abundance of "OPPORTUNTIES" to preach.<br />
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If you are a Pastor, first you must understand that all ground is not good ground. There are many who are Warlocks, and Witches who are simply looking to drain your anointing. Every opportunity is not an opportunity from God, although on the outside, it seem profitable.<br />
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If you are an associate minister, the best thing you can do is follow the lead of your pastor. I hear many ministers complain that they feel thier local pastor is holding them back because He/She does not always allow them to preach out. But there are a number of factors that go into this, speaking as a pastor myself:<br />
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1. Are you faithful to the local house first and foremost in attendance?<br />
2. Are you faithful in your tithes and offering, or whatever the standard of the local house is?<br />
3. Are you accountable to your Pastor when called upon?<br />
4. Is your house in order? If you are a HUSBAND, is there a manifestation that you are ruling over your house well? If you are a WIFE, are you submissive to your husband, not contentious, but virtueous?<br />
5. Do both KNOW and UNDERSTAND the vision of your pastor, and know His/Her heart?<br />
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If if you have a positive response to most of the above, perhaps if you are an infant in ministry, your patsor may need to see more develpoment from you. It is hard to go to a church that is in great need of deliverance, but you are lacking in your prayer life, as only your pastor would know.<br />
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There are many factors to consider. Allow God to elevate you and to open the door, for when He does it, you can never fail.