To have eternal salvation/ eternal life , Jesus the Christ is the ONLY Way. A person cannot enter Heaven/ New Jeruselm without Jeus the Christ . You must accept Chrsit Jesus as your Lord and saviour. There is a heaven and a hell , and yes everyone will live forever. A person cannot make it to Glory on the prayers promises , and covenants of our fore fathers and mothers. You must have a relationship with Chrsit Jesus for yourself. Time is nigh yesterday is gone , and tomorrow is not promised . all you have is today , this moment in time. In eternaity you will be with Chrsit jesus and paradise, or Burn in the lake of fire and brimestone. I pose the question, if you died right now oh where, oh where will your soul find rest.Jesus the Christ is the ONLY Way. A denominational name, church, synagoge, temple ,hall, etc. can't save you { salvation] You must have Christ Jesus and your name recorded in the Lambs Book of Life. if you went around the great wall of china. you will find buddah and confusehes dead cold and in the grave.. If you went to taj mahal you will hindu ,janism,dead cold and still in the grave. if you went around central park in New york city. You will find sweet daddy grace and father divine dead,cold, and in the grave. if you went to saudia arabia around the Black rock you will find mohamend dead cold and in the grave. YET if you went to jerusalen around a hill called calvary. YOU will find an Empty Tomb, because Chrsit jesus rose from the grave with all power in his hands. Chrsit Jesus sits at the right hand of the father making intercess for whom so ever will. Jesus the Christ is The ONLY WAY

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Let me ask you a question.....

I actually find it disturbing when it seems like so much of the argument about belief is centered around death and what happens to you after you die. "Believe this or else I'm going to torture you for eternity. Oh yeah, but I am love personified". I'm truly disturbed by this reasoning because to me its like a rat leaving a sinking ship. It's only concern is self-preservation. Using this as a means to bait souls is a scare tactic not dissimilar from TERRORISM. In terrorism a terrorist's objective is to make people so afraid that they'll do what he wants. Is G-d a terrorist or is he being made into one? Do you really honestly truly from the bottom of your heart love G-d? Or are you terrified of the consequences of hell? What if I told you there is no hell and that it is a fiction of the imagination of Christian artists and poets? Does that mean there's no lake of fire? Not at all. But in general hell is the grave. If there were no eternal consequences would you be so strong an advocate of what you teach? Is there another reason why people should listen to and accept the gospel? The gospel is not about death. It's about life and life more abundant.

All Christians have been programmed with the same rigorous and persistent image of heaven and hell but these concepts hide the only REAL and RIGHT motivation one should have for being a servant and son/daughter of G-d. That is love. G-d doesn't want you just because you're so scared you're willing to obey (to some extent). He wants a family based on love and his law is based on love and therefore obedience can only come from love.

All Christians know that the only way to the Father is through "Jesus Christ". But what does that mean? People tend to have a very surface understanding. All they know is that they need to do x, y, and z and most of their time is spent arguing about all the things they believe they don't have to do. But because their mind is so focused on self-preservation they only want to do the bare minimum it takes to achieve that goal. But who says that goal will be achieved that way? The messiah was a symbol. He represented something. What, you may ask? He represented perfection, completeness. He represented the hopes and dreams of a creator who made mankind and said "it is good". He represented what humanity was and IS supposed to be. There is no salvation for sin so that sin can survive; only sinners. Therefore you have to cut your sins off from you and sacrifice all the parts of yourself that cause you to sin. These concepts are impossible to reject without rejecting the messiah. If you reject your potential to be perfect and new then you have rejected the messiah. This is what he stood for.

To get to the Father you have to be his CHILDREN. As an elder brother does he showed us how to be children of G-d. But you have to walk in his footsteps. This is not a document you can simply sign and date and everything okay because you "stated for the record" that you believe. You don't believe if you don't do. DOING is what proves your belief. If you turn away from sin then THAT means that you believed it was possible. Yeshua said be ye therefore perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect. Do you believe him? Did G-d accept the sacrifice of Cain? It wasn't what he asked for, so no. Why do any of us think that G-d will accept our blemishes? He can forgive us for having them but where does it say he will forgive us for choosing to keep them? G-d is so far removed from sin that he could only deal with people who were sanctified and cleansed of sin. If the priest did not sacrifice for his own sins and tried to come before G-d to offer sacrifice for the nation they had to pull him out of the temple with a rope. Those who want to be with the Father need to understand that he doesn't want to and cannot be with sin. Therefore, the work of the spirit of G-d is to purge you from sin by putting the law of G-d in your heart. Once his word is growing in you then you should start to conform to the image of Yeshua, the messiah, and you too will be a son of G-d, and THAT is the only way to have eternal salvation. It's all well and good that you want to survive this world but that isn't what G-d is looking for.

WE will spend more time in and of physical death. Than what we will endure in physical life. This earth is not our hoime. Our Home is with our lord and saviour Jesus the Christ
I repeat:

If there were no eternal consequences would you be so strong an advocate of what you teach?
Is there another reason why people should listen to and accept the gospel?

If your religion is so that you can win heaven and escape hell then your religion is useless and in vain. YHWH who sees the heart knows your MOTIVES.
OMG ZealotX! Looking at your picture, I have to ask . . .which Star Trek movie did you star in?

I can promise you, this photo looks nothing like holiness or godliness. I cannot imagine any of God's chosen people (house of Israel) looking like this either.
Let me get this straight..... and I forgive you for speaking out of complete and abject ignorance... someone with a picture of the torture device used to inflict a very painful death on the messiah is a critic of my picture? The irony is duly noted.

Zealot X (pictured in my profile) is a character I created who fights demons. The demon who murdered his family set him on fire which mutilated his face to look more like a monster. Demons are not ugly monsters, but it is very common for people to have their righteousness be judged by their looks. And Christians tend to be very surface which is why this was an idea for my character. He is rejected by the world because of his looks. So he wears a mask to hide them.

HaSatan appears as an angel of light. So where did the image of the monster come from? Why do Christians judge things this way? Do you judge burn victims at the hospital and question their spirituality? No, you wouldn't be so insensitive. This part of Zealot X not only proves a point (that you have just helped to reiterate) but shows how the truth is often not accepted because of its package. And likewise, lies are often accepted as truth for the same reason.

So next time you get the urge to "OMG!" at someone's physical appearance perhaps you should be a little more considerate of why they look that way without making silly assumptions involving who they are and your IMAGINATION of what they should look like.

Isaiah 11
3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of YHWH: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:

Isaiah 53
2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. 3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
This brother has a strong delusion on him.

He thinks he follows the God of Israel, but he also follows his father the devil. It is ironic that he made those statements above, be careful of this fellow. I am warning the false prophets, and the Children of Israel.
I handly concur with you my brother
You concur? With what? I guess it must be easy to concur with someone you don't know about someone else you don't know when the only questions they ask you, you seem to avoid. Apparently, in your own 'special' way you have answered my questions... unfortunately.
Mock all you will. It is my job to warn, and then mt job is done.
following me now? Too bad all you can do is try to talk about me instead of debating me. I believe Techiyah is still waiting for you to answer a simple and direct question. Of course.... we already knew you weren't going to do it.

Of course I have no problems with you on this forum as long as you restrain yourself from bearing false witness against me again. I am not the type to hold grudges across websites. If you are determined rather to be my adversary then I will not restrain the rod of correction from you and will embarrass you in front of all these people. My terms are non-negotiable.
Aren't you the man who said Elijah was "Jesus"? Come now....

You're attacking me ad hominem. I have given you the opportunity to debate me and prove your case. But this is all you can do it seems.
Yes, he also said, on another site, to which I disproved in one sentence, that Elijah (Elias in the NT) is Jesus. He clearly hasn't studied. And on the note of Melchizedek, on this other forum, I also showed that he COULD NOT have been Melchizedek because he was after the "similitude" of Melchizedek. Of course you and most other serious bible student already knows this.

But you have to understand. This is a man who claims I am deluded because I have had conversations with him about the importance of being able to understand the original Hebrew and have good English comprehension when reading the bible so that you can understand even the English. He railed against me for this. This is also a man who lied and told people that I do not believe in the messiah when I have never been non-messianic.

So Hez and I have a rich history, mainly of me inviting him to prove his arguments and he finding some opportune reason to run away screaming. I told him we were just trying to help him but.... some people simply refuse correction because its more about their own ego.



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