Let’s Put an End to This False Doctrine!!
Let’s Put an End to This False Doctrine
There is an unbiblical doctrine where people believe once they profess with their mouth, believe with their heart and become baptized in the name of Jesus Christ they are saved and cannot loose their salvation. This belief is sometimes known as Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS). Well let’s use just a little common sense and a lot of scripture to see if their claim is actually supported by God’s holy word!
Who Gets in and Who Doesn’t
I was going to save the main point for the end, but I know Israel’s attention span is short so I’ll cut to the chase! Let’s look at just a few scriptures and rely on God given common sense to see just how impossible the OSAS doctrine is.
Let’s read who will enter God’s kingdom, when they find out, and how this information is revealed’;
Rev.21
[2] And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Now this is what we all look forward to; entering New Jerusalem and eternal life is the promise God says He will give to all that obey Him. Let’s continue;
[7] He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
[10] And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
Now let’s read who inherits all things and is allowed to enter this city and who does not;
[27] And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
So only those whose names are written in God’s book of life are permitted to enter.
Now let’s read the fate of those whose name is not found written in God’s book of life;
Rev.20
[12] And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
ALL of the dead were judged based upon what was written in the books. Let’s continue;
[15] And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
So whosever name is NOT found in God’s book of life will be cast into the lake of fire.
Let’s review’;
God’s word says ONLY those whose name is in His book will enter into His holy city. Rev.21:27
Anyone who is NOT found in God’s book of life will be cast into the lake of fire. Rev.20:15
You do not know if your name is in God’s book of life UNTIL the book is opened and your name is read. Rev.20:12,15, Rev.21:27
Now let’s turn for a moment to common sense to figure out another fact;
What will be the fate of a person that dies while their name is still written in God’s book of life? Before answering understand this, once you are dead that is it. Let’s quickly read the condition of the dead;
Eccl.9
[5] For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
[6] Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
So a dead person cannot change their fate once they die.
Common sense right?
With that said, a person that dies and their name is written in God’s book of life WILL receive the promise of entering New Jerusalem and eternal life.
Think about it! To die with your name written in God’s book of life……can a person get any more saved than that? Of course not!
Now what it take to get your name in that book is a question that will be addressed in a moment. But for now let’s look at the flip side;
Is it possible to have your name removed from God‘s book? Is it actually possible for someone to do something that will cause them to loose their salvation? Let’s think about this for a second. What if it were possible for a persons name to be removed from God’s book and they died before their name is replaced? What is their fate? If it were not possible would there even be a discussion about it in the bible? Let’s search God’s word for such a discussion.
It All Boils Down to One Thing
Let’s read a conversation Moses had with God after returning from receiving the commandments. What we are about to read is really a plea to God for the wrong the people had done;
Exod.32
[30] And it came to pass on the morrow, that Moses said unto the people, Ye have sinned a great sin: and now I will go up unto the LORD; peradventure I shall make an atonement for your sin.
[31] And Moses returned unto the LORD, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold.
Now let’s read Moses plea to the Lord;
[32] Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written.
Moses plea to God was that his name be removed from the book of life. Now did God say that was something that was not possible? On the contrary! Let’s read what thus said the Lord;
[33] And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.
Notice God did not say it was impossible for name to be removed, He said quite the opposite!
Now I know this was spoken in the OT and some may think it was only for those of that age, so let’s search God’s word to see if someone other than an OT figure spoke of blotting names out of God’s book of life;
Rev.3
[5] He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Well there you have it! Not only will names be blotted out of God’s book of life…..it will be Jesus Christ doing it!!!!
So it IS possible for a name to be removed from God’s book of life! And what is it that will cause a name to be removed? Sin!!!
And what does God say is sin?
“Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.”
So a name that is written in God’s book of life is NOT permanent! And if that is the case, salvation is not guaranteed! God tells us the one thing that will cause a name to be removed is breaking His laws, or SIN!!!
Now let’s go back to using common sense for a minute. If breaking God’s laws causes one to have their name removed from His book of life, shouldn’t keeping His laws cause your name to remain?
Common sense right?
Now I’m sure there will be some that try to refute this by quoting different scriptures, or not believe it at all, but the fact of the scriptures remain.
A NAME CAN BE REMOVED FROM GOD’S BOOK OF LIFE!!
Now let’s read some other scriptures further supporting what we have just read.
God IS Fair!
Ezek.18
[20] The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Now we know what a sinner is. It is one that breaks the laws of God, which, according to God's inspired word, ALL have done. And the scriptures says he that sinneth shall die. Understand the death spoken of here is the second death. Now let's read what happens if the sinner turns from his ways, and stops breaking God's laws;
[21] But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
[22] All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.
So the sinner can change his fate, as long as he is alive that is. If he stops breaking Gods laws none of his transgressions will even be mentioned.
Now let's see if there is a flip side to this. Let's read what happens to the righteous when they stop keeping God’s laws;
[24] But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
So all of the good things a righteous person does can be wiped away and counted for nothing if he begins to sin. And does he have the chance to redeem himself? Let's read;
[26] When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.
Just like the sinner, if the once righteous dies in his sins, he shall die the second death.
This goes hand in hand with what God told Moses;
“Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.”
Gods ways are fair and equal for both sinner and righteous, just as He says in His word.
Now some may want to still believe that they know they are saved, and once they are, they always will be, but let's read one more verse to see if a NT person thought the same way.
Let's read what Paul had to say about the possibility of him NOT making it into God's kingdom;
1Cor.9
[27] But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
So even Paul realized that it was possible for him to blow the mission and miss the mark, if he did not keep his body under subjection. So we find that Paul didn’t even consider his salvation guaranteed.
Now we know for a fact there are some that are already in God’s book of life and they died having, “…a good report…”. But let’s read how close it will be even for them;
1Pet.4
[18] And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
Now if God’s righteous scarcely make it…..where does that leave you and I?
So there you have it.
If a person dies and their name is in God’s book of life they will, “…inherit all things…”!
For those that die, having done something to have their name removed, they will be, “…cast into the lake of fire…”!
God says these will be the ones who names are blotted out, “Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book;”
Nobody finds out until, “…the books were opened…”
If a name that has been removed is not replaced before they die and before the books are opened and read, the lake of fire will be what they inherit!
OSAS……just does make SENSE!!!!!!!!!!!
There is an unbiblical doctrine where people believe once they profess with their mouth, believe with their heart and become baptized in the name of Jesus Christ they are saved and cannot loose their salvation. This belief is sometimes known as Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS). Well let’s use just a little common sense and a lot of scripture to see if their claim is actually supported by God’s holy word!
Who Gets in and Who Doesn’t
I was going to save the main point for the end, but I know Israel’s attention span is short so I’ll cut to the chase! Let’s look at just a few scriptures and rely on God given common sense to see just how impossible the OSAS doctrine is.
Let’s read who will enter God’s kingdom, when they find out, and how this information is revealed’;
Rev.21
[2] And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Now this is what we all look forward to; entering New Jerusalem and eternal life is the promise God says He will give to all that obey Him. Let’s continue;
[7] He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
[10] And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
Now let’s read who inherits all things and is allowed to enter this city and who does not;
[27] And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
So only those whose names are written in God’s book of life are permitted to enter.
Now let’s read the fate of those whose name is not found written in God’s book of life;
Rev.20
[12] And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
ALL of the dead were judged based upon what was written in the books. Let’s continue;
[15] And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
So whosever name is NOT found in God’s book of life will be cast into the lake of fire.
Let’s review’;
God’s word says ONLY those whose name is in His book will enter into His holy city. Rev.21:27
Anyone who is NOT found in God’s book of life will be cast into the lake of fire. Rev.20:15
You do not know if your name is in God’s book of life UNTIL the book is opened and your name is read. Rev.20:12,15, Rev.21:27
Now let’s turn for a moment to common sense to figure out another fact;
What will be the fate of a person that dies while their name is still written in God’s book of life? Before answering understand this, once you are dead that is it. Let’s quickly read the condition of the dead;
Eccl.9
[5] For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
[6] Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
So a dead person cannot change their fate once they die.
Common sense right?
With that said, a person that dies and their name is written in God’s book of life WILL receive the promise of entering New Jerusalem and eternal life.
Think about it! To die with your name written in God’s book of life……can a person get any more saved than that? Of course not!
Now what it take to get your name in that book is a question that will be addressed in a moment. But for now let’s look at the flip side;
Is it possible to have your name removed from God‘s book? Is it actually possible for someone to do something that will cause them to loose their salvation? Let’s think about this for a second. What if it were possible for a persons name to be removed from God’s book and they died before their name is replaced? What is their fate? If it were not possible would there even be a discussion about it in the bible? Let’s search God’s word for such a discussion.
It All Boils Down to One Thing
Let’s read a conversation Moses had with God after returning from receiving the commandments. What we are about to read is really a plea to God for the wrong the people had done;
Exod.32
[30] And it came to pass on the morrow, that Moses said unto the people, Ye have sinned a great sin: and now I will go up unto the LORD; peradventure I shall make an atonement for your sin.
[31] And Moses returned unto the LORD, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold.
Now let’s read Moses plea to the Lord;
[32] Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written.
Moses plea to God was that his name be removed from the book of life. Now did God say that was something that was not possible? On the contrary! Let’s read what thus said the Lord;
[33] And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.
Notice God did not say it was impossible for name to be removed, He said quite the opposite!
Now I know this was spoken in the OT and some may think it was only for those of that age, so let’s search God’s word to see if someone other than an OT figure spoke of blotting names out of God’s book of life;
Rev.3
[5] He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Well there you have it! Not only will names be blotted out of God’s book of life…..it will be Jesus Christ doing it!!!!
So it IS possible for a name to be removed from God’s book of life! And what is it that will cause a name to be removed? Sin!!!
And what does God say is sin?
“Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.”
So a name that is written in God’s book of life is NOT permanent! And if that is the case, salvation is not guaranteed! God tells us the one thing that will cause a name to be removed is breaking His laws, or SIN!!!
Now let’s go back to using common sense for a minute. If breaking God’s laws causes one to have their name removed from His book of life, shouldn’t keeping His laws cause your name to remain?
Common sense right?
Now I’m sure there will be some that try to refute this by quoting different scriptures, or not believe it at all, but the fact of the scriptures remain.
A NAME CAN BE REMOVED FROM GOD’S BOOK OF LIFE!!
Now let’s read some other scriptures further supporting what we have just read.
God IS Fair!
Ezek.18
[20] The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Now we know what a sinner is. It is one that breaks the laws of God, which, according to God's inspired word, ALL have done. And the scriptures says he that sinneth shall die. Understand the death spoken of here is the second death. Now let's read what happens if the sinner turns from his ways, and stops breaking God's laws;
[21] But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
[22] All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.
So the sinner can change his fate, as long as he is alive that is. If he stops breaking Gods laws none of his transgressions will even be mentioned.
Now let's see if there is a flip side to this. Let's read what happens to the righteous when they stop keeping God’s laws;
[24] But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
So all of the good things a righteous person does can be wiped away and counted for nothing if he begins to sin. And does he have the chance to redeem himself? Let's read;
[26] When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.
Just like the sinner, if the once righteous dies in his sins, he shall die the second death.
This goes hand in hand with what God told Moses;
“Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.”
Gods ways are fair and equal for both sinner and righteous, just as He says in His word.
Now some may want to still believe that they know they are saved, and once they are, they always will be, but let's read one more verse to see if a NT person thought the same way.
Let's read what Paul had to say about the possibility of him NOT making it into God's kingdom;
1Cor.9
[27] But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
So even Paul realized that it was possible for him to blow the mission and miss the mark, if he did not keep his body under subjection. So we find that Paul didn’t even consider his salvation guaranteed.
Now we know for a fact there are some that are already in God’s book of life and they died having, “…a good report…”. But let’s read how close it will be even for them;
1Pet.4
[18] And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
Now if God’s righteous scarcely make it…..where does that leave you and I?
So there you have it.
If a person dies and their name is in God’s book of life they will, “…inherit all things…”!
For those that die, having done something to have their name removed, they will be, “…cast into the lake of fire…”!
God says these will be the ones who names are blotted out, “Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book;”
Nobody finds out until, “…the books were opened…”
If a name that has been removed is not replaced before they die and before the books are opened and read, the lake of fire will be what they inherit!
OSAS……just does make SENSE!!!!!!!!!!!
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To lose ones salvation is impossible...
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 11:29
for God's gifts and his call are irrevocable.
Strongs: 29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance
GB
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It is impossible because you don't get salvation until the coming of the Lord.
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1 Peter 1:23
For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!
Ephesians 4:24 and put on the new self, which in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of the truth.
John 15:3
You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you.
Ephesians 5:26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,
Ezekiel 36:25
I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols.
TH WATER HERE SPEAKS OF THE WORD OF GOD AS STATED IN THE ABOVE VERSE:Ephesians 5:26
THOES WHO are BORN AGAIN ARE ALREADY SAVED...
1 John 2:12
I write to you, dear children, because your sins have been forgiven on account of his name.
( SALVATION )
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If we are saved, why is there going to be judgment? Why do Jesus say that he that endures to the end the same shall be saved.. When is the end?
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to thoes who are born again they have already been judged,found guilty and pardoned by Christ..
GB
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Born again is not a change of mind.. It is a change of body..
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born again is a change of mind and soul and lastly body when christ returns...but our minds and spirit are new...
John 15:3 "You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you.
the word clean here.. means born again...already
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Ephesians 2:5
made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is by grace you have been saved.
( present tense ) if we HAVE BEEN SAVED... then we are saved..
GB
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Ephesians 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
You read other interpretations of the Bible. I only read the King James Bible... Sorry... This exchange will not be fruitful because I was wondering why you were reading the same Bible as me, and getting this misunderstanding of the scripts.. They are plain.. It is cool.. If you want to go by the King James Bible then we can continue..
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