Obama Support Same Sex Marriage/Not Crazy Bisexuals or Crazy Gay People
Let's get one thing straight!
President Obama & Vice President Biden support same sex marriage, NOT CRAZY BISEXUALS OR CRAZY GAY PEOPLE, SO DON'T THINK U CAN ACT A FOOL BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT BACKED LEGALIZING A RELATIONSHIP. I can see people now trying to create a BIG scene with the DRAMA before they come out of the closet to people how don't care.
I personally feel it's tooooo many bisexual & gay people living in the closet to the point the President don't know how many votes he may lose if he don't support same sex marriage. I may not agree with same sex, but I will still vote for 90% of President Obama agenda so President Obama may have lost some support, but one thing is for sure he won a lot of votes.
I don't think gay rights is the same as black folks rights, but it's almost as if a whitemale America say O.K. black folks have human & civil rights am I suppose to support them? I'm a Aryan, Indo European, Indo Aryan, Nordic & my ideology is that my race is supreme over all other races. But that's just it, black rights ant the same as bisexual & gay rights because black folks don't feel supremacy over bisexuals & gays, how can we when there are a lot of black bisexuals & gays? So I don't feel like I have to support bisexual or gay marriage.
Like I was saying before, I still agree with 90% of President Obama agenda. The President may have lost a lil' support from me, but he has waaaaay tooooo much on the table that I agree with to lose my vote. It's like President Bush, I agreed with maybe 40% of President Bush agenda. President Bush was against Bisexual & gay marriage & I agreed with that part of his agenda, but that was only about 2% of his agenda because gay & bisexuals have been living together for years so making it legal really don't mean anything to me.
Also, like I was saying. Let's make one thing clear, President Obama & Vice President Biden support bisexual & gay marriage, not crazy bisexuals & gays acting like they don't care & there is nothing society can do to them because they been screwed up the rear.
Like I told u before, I personally feel it's tooooo many bisexual & gay people living in the closet to the point the President don't know how many votes he may lose if he don't support same sex marriage. I may not agree with same sex, but I will still vote for 90% of President Obama agenda so President Obama may have lost some support, but one thing is for sure he won a lot of votes.
Here's the article:
"I had already made a decision that we were going to probably take this position before the election and before the convention," Obama told ABC's
"Good Morning America," referring to the Democratic National Convention in September.
Biden "probably got out a little bit over his skis, but out of generosity of spirit," the president said.
He added that he would have "preferred to have done this in my own way, on my own terms," but "all's well that ends well."
Biden told NBC's "Meet the Press" over the weekend that he is "absolutely comfortable" with same-sex marriage.
Obama, explaining how his own position has evolved, noted that his daughters Malia and Sasha have "friends whose parents are same-sex couples. It wouldn't dawn on them that somehow their friends' parents would be treated differently. And frankly that's the kind of thing that prompts a change of perspective -- not wanting to somehow explain to your child why somebody should be treated differently when it comes to the eyes of the law."
Asked about whether his new position is a calculated move in an election year, Obama said it would "be hard to argue that somehow this is something that I'd be doing for political advantage. Because frankly, you know, the politics -- it's not clear how they cut."
Obama said he won't spend much time talking about the issue, because he's focused on the economy. News of the president's history-making decision on same-sex marriage broke Wednesday when the interview was taped.
"At a certain point I've just concluded that for me, personally, it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same-sex couples should be able to get married," Obama said. He previously opposed such marriages. "I had hesitated on gay marriage, in part, because I thought civil unions would be sufficient," the president said. "I was sensitive to the fact that -- for a lot of people -- that the word marriage is something that provokes very powerful traditions and religious beliefs."
But Obama said his thinking shifted as he witnessed committed same-sex marriages and thought about U.S. service members who were "not able to commit themselves in a marriage."
In 2011, the Pentagon stopped enforcement of the "don't ask, don't tell" policy on gays and lesbians serving in the military. That change played a part in Obama's announced stance on same-sex marriage.
"When I think about those soldiers or airmen or Marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that 'don't ask, don't tell' is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I've just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same-sex couples should be able to get married," he told ABC.
The announcement puts Obama squarely at odds with presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, who on Wednesday said during an appearance in Oklahoma, "I believe marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman."
In comments Wednesday to CNN Denver affiliate KDVR-TV, Romney reiterated his opposition to same-sex marriage.
"And I do not favor civil unions if they are identical to marriage other than by name," Romney said during a visit to Fort Lupton. "My view is the domestic partnership benefits, hospital visitation rights and the like are appropriate, but that the others are not."
The issue is a divisive one in American politics, but it's uncertain how the development might play out at the voting booth.
A Gallup Poll released Tuesday indicated 50% of Americans believe same-sex marriages should be recognized by law as valid, with 48% saying such marriages should not be legal.
But a CNN/ORC International poll, taken in late March, indicated policies toward gays and lesbians were tied for last in the most-important issues facing the country.
Obama said he was "disappointed" by this week's vote on the issue in North Carolina, which he described as discriminatory against gays and lesbians, a spokesman said earlier Wednesday.
North Carolina on Tuesday voted to implement a state constitutional ban on same-sex marriage, which was already prohibited by state law. Supporters of the measure pushed for the constitutional amendment, arguing that it was needed to ward off future legal challenges. The president said he supports states deciding the issue on their own.
What's next for North Carolina?
The conservative Family Research Council criticized Obama. The group's president said the decision will aid Romney.
"The president, I think, has handed to Mitt Romney the one missing piece in his campaign," said Tony Perkins, the council's president. "That is the intensity and motivation that Mitt Romney needs among social conservatives to win this election."
An expert on religion and politics said the move will make "an already close election even closer."
"It cuts both ways -- it activates both Democratic and Republican base voters," said John Green of the University of Akron.
Obama told ABC that some opinions on the issue are "generational."
"When I go to college campuses, sometimes I talk to college Republicans who think that I have terrible policies on the economy, on foreign policy, but are very clear that when it comes to same-sex equality or, you know, sexual orientation, that they believe in equality," he said.
The new president of the Human Rights Campaign, the largest group representing gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Americans, lauded the development.
"President Obama's words today will be celebrated by generations to come," Chad Griffin said in a statement Wednesday.
Griffin later told CNN that he believes "we will never have another president, Democrat or Republican, that opposes gay marriage." Same-sex marriage foe Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League, told
CNN "a child needs a mother and father."
Rep. Barney Frank, a gay Democrat from Massachusetts, said that "no president could have done this 10 years ago."
Before Tuesday's North Carolina referendum, 30 states had voted in favor of constitutional amendments that seek to defend traditional definitions of marriage as a heterosexual union.
Six states -- Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, Vermont, New Hampshire and New York -- and the District of Columbia issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
In February, Washington Gov. Christine Gregoire signed a bill that would legalize same-sex marriage beginning in June, but opponents there have pledged to block the bill and called for voters to decide the issue. Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley signed into law a bill that permits the state's same-sex couples to wed as of January 1, and state residents may vote to affirm such a law. Minnesota will vote on a state constitutional amendment similar to the one in North Carolina. Maine will have a referendum on allowing same-sex marriage.
Legal challenges over same-sex marriage could reach the U.S. Supreme Court in coming months, but it seems unlikely justices would hear arguments before Election Day.
The issue is on two legal tracks.
The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals will decide the constitutionality of California's Proposition 8, a voter-approved measure that would recognize marriage only between one man and one woman. A federal judge earlier struck down the law as a violation of equal protection, prompting the current appeal.
The Obama administration announced last year it believed the Defense of Marriage Act, often referred to as DOMA, to be unconstitutional. The law defines marriage for federal purposes as unions only between a man and woman.
A federal appeals court in Boston last month heard a DOMA lawsuit by a same-sex couple in Massachusetts. At issue is whether the federal government can deny tax, health and pension benefits to same-sex couples in states where they can marry.
That federal law is being officially defended in court by House Republicans, led by Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, who stepped in after the Justice Department refused to participate.
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Permalink Reply by newview on
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The nation is cursed.
And the first place the Lord will visit will be the churches. To whom much is given much is required.
The world dont know what is an offense to God - but the church does. He's coming with a fan in His hand and will be sweep the chafe out of the Church before He comes for His bride.
And remember Hes marrying a Bride - not a Groom.
The Groom will marry a Bride and the Bride will marry her Groom.
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Permalink Reply by Anthony on
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I'm gonna go off subject a lil' bit because I think some folks are scared of same sex marriage because of children & how will the children be raised? I'm a heterosexual, I don't have children & I'm not married, but I think the act of birth & sharing that experience between a male & a female is the most natural act of God & the highest blessing of God. That's all I know about the gift & power of reproduction of sharing a life, not a burden. The gift & the power of having a life together is special, very special. Don't get me wrong, adoption is very, very beautiful & I'm not saying adoption isn't a blessing, I guess I'm going the long route in trying to explain my point.
Also, I don't see how females aren't offended by males who think their females. Or could replace a female in raising a child as far as adoption. To me, you can't replace a female role in raising a child, first of all u never experienced what's it like to be a female. I don't care if u think u were born a female & u think u are a female inside. No man knows what's it like to be a female from birth to giving birth & everything in between. Men that's been victims of harsh crimes, I'm not trying to disrespect u, but being violated or going through other harsh abuses doesn't mean u understand a female physiological changes or biologically changes. I'm speaking especially of the ova, men u don't have one. Sexual reproduction & fertilization, the endocrine system men don't have. The follicular phase, ovulation, luteal phase & proliferative phase, and secretory phase, men don't have. Men don't have a chromatin of eggs. So men who think they're females are just characters. There is no scientific background to being gay other than feeling. Men who are bisexual or gay like the feeling of another man. Women who are lesbians like the feeling of another female. It's all sexual attraction, the allure, the secret, the sexual feeling, but let's face it, there is no scientific background to it other than the fact that a very, very, very, very, very large group of very intelligent bisexuals, gays & lesbians tried to psychologically understand their psyche so they wrote a lot of books about it throughout history.
I'm not bisexual, gay or homophobic & I'm not gay bashing so don't listen to me & don't make up rumors. I seen what powerful secret society organizations can do. I seen what they did to a few Republicans who chose to gay bash. I'm not acting like I have a clue how bisexuals, gays & lesbians attack. Let's not forget about family members who are lesbians, bisexuals & gays & how they could be offended & attack. They can & will attack & when they do, before u know it, about 7 States know your face & heard the rumors, before u know what hit u. It's not like I can call a press conference. Lesbians are the deadliest, they are extremely affective.
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Permalink Reply by Mrs. Denise Jones on
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Bro. your last sentence seems like you have fear and God does not give us the spirit of fear. Ephesian 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: We MUST use the word of God, we MUST start speaking the WORD of God on this mess. God is not pleased and Newview...you are rightly dividing the TRUTH which is the Word.
North Carolina did the right thing...they know about the flood God sent to certain sections of the Carolina's about 10-12 years ago. Wiped out several WHOLE towns that were whoremonging, practicing witchcraft etc. The nation will crumbled if those WHO ARE CALLED BY HIS NAME don't do what He said. 2 Chron 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. It is too many leaning to their own understanding and feelings and putting God 2nd and their ways 1st. People are only acknowledging God when things get too tough for them and they have not other choice but to call on Him. It is a sad day on earth and the angels are crying,
In Love Sister Denise
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Jones, your wrong. I been isolated, set-up by the federal government & there was no fear in my heart, ask anyone that could tell u. I'm showing respect in the power of numbers. Frankly, if u beef with me, you're beefing with the one & I think I got the odds on my side. Most folks are blinded by currency & status. So let's face it, if a prestigious member of your Church, sorority or fraternity brother or sister that paid a large amount of due money said, "U see that guy over there?" "His name is Anthony Smith & I saw him doing this or I heard he was or I heard he did that." What ever they said would be the true in your ears. Fear is a human emotion everybody have, it's how u control your fear that make u stronger. Don't talk to me about fear, I been through too much outside of the norm & I still shine through. This is not war, I'm merely showing respect to the power of numbers. Numbers with a great amount of influence. It has nothing to do with FEAR. U see they got the President ear.
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Bro. Anthony, I was not trying to be right or wrong when I replied, nor was it meant to be offensive when I chided about your last sentence. It was just as you stated...I said fear, you said respect....LOL I used fear in as in reverence, what manner of level of reverence, respect or fear....not in the scared since, that is why I gave you the scripture. See, I don't fear, reverence or respect numbers when it is against God, because I know without a shadow of doubt 1 can send 10,000 to flight. I know without a doubt, feverent prayer of 1 righteous availeth much. So numbers, position nor status influence me and I can say that with conviction. I try to lean not to my understanding but tap into that power that was given me and know that many can stand, but whom shall I fear? I walk by faith and not by sight literally. I am one who is ready to stand no matter what. I am one who knows for God I stand and for God I will die. I fear, reverence, respect no man that tries to influence me to do what is contrary to the word of God. Some call it self righteous, I call it OBEDIENCE, because I fear, reverence and respect God more than man. Please don't let the words that I type attack you, because they are not meant to do so, it is just me standing on my beliefs and the power that is within me.
In Love Sister Denise
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Permalink Reply by Brother Phil on
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Amen, Sister!
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I understand what you're trying to say, but what you're trying to say has no relevance to my life. When someone can put money quarterly or annually, say 200,000 or more, to attack u, plus a private investigator. Your faith may never be broke, but there is no Church on this GLOBE that don't respect MONEY!
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Anthony:
You still don't get it, Whatever is born (spawned) of fleshly concerns is only temporal or (corruptible.)
Big Money????? In the Collection Basket???? As Peter told the magician/sorcerer. YOUR MONEY PERISH WITH YOU. God is waiting to set the captives free if one would only ask. (captive to drugs, porn, alcohol, homosexuality.) Its God who says its bondage, not me or the church!!!! I pray you will only ask him.
But God's law and righteousness CANNOT BE held hostile/or high-jacked by the wealth of gays trying to buy their way into HIS right standing, . .Sodom and Gomorrah grew bountifully and prospered in their iniquity. But they were lovers of themselves and pleasure, not God. God would have spared them if he had been able to find 10 righteous among them. The charred ash and cinders of those two great cities stands today. Google it.
What is born of the spirit is spirit, (which reveals the heart,mind, love and word of God) so we can live pleasing him. If you want his saving grace to deliver you, just pray and ask. The blood of Christ and 'its delivering power is FREE OF CHARGE!
Your eternal soul is relevant TO YOU in the next life. You are made in his image, a triune being/creation - body, soul and spirit. Our flesh needs to be denied, its corruptible and at war with the spirit of God because of sin. Your soul and spirit will exist forever, . .somewhere. God wants no one to perish. Not even gays.
So I won't indulge in high-minded, endless debates if the fallen state of an unsaved soul is o.k. to God in today's reprobate society; whether they are gay or straight. Nor if they ought to be good enough for God in his own house and under his own rules.
I want to call you a brother in Christ and fellowship. It just doesn't work unless you're "born again." We all took that step, you can, too. His hand is out - just accept his saving grace.
I love Christ and can talk about him forever. The salvation and joy he gives is complete and euphoric. But if you just want to bicker or rail, then let's just not even converse. If we continue under that scenario then I become a fool.
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I don't think u get it & I can see we are off subject again. I wasn't born in Bethlehem of Judea & never been nowhere near there. Have u? I don't even think I could get a passport or Visa to visit Judea. My eternal soul is relevant? Tell me something I don't already know, but I never been to eternity, have u? I never known a self righteous person that didn't love having money. I was born in America & in America money is Power, cash is King & there are power in numbers.
Back to my point of the topic.
I was born a heterosexual & will die a heterosexual & I personally don't see how this is history. U have heterosexual couples that's been living together for years. So gay couples that's been living together for years can finally make it legal by getting married. SO WHAT!!! If you been living together for years, O.K. you can go to a Church, City Hall or Vegas & make it legal. O.K., than u go home & you're back to doing what ever u been doing as a couple before u tied the not. What's the BIG DEAL!
Let's get one thing straight!
President Obama & Vice President Biden support same sex marriage, NOT CRAZY BISEXUALS OR CRAZY GAY PEOPLE, SO DON'T THINK U CAN ACT A FOOL BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT BACKED LEGALIZING A RELATIONSHIP. I can see people now trying to create a BIG scene with the DRAMA before they come out of the closet to people how don't care.
I personally feel it's tooooo many bisexual & gay people living in the closet to the point the President don't know how many votes he may lose if he don't support same sex marriage. I may not agree with same sex, but I will still vote for 90% of President Obama agenda so President Obama may have lost some support, but one thing is for sure he won a lot of votes.Like I said, I was born a heterosexual & will die a heterosexual so I can act like I don't care if two people get married to be political correct, but deep done inside I know I'm against it, but if two bisexual or gay people been living together for years & they can go to church, City Hall or Vegas to make their relationship legal, u know what? SO WHAT!!!
I don't think gay rights is the same as black folks rights, but it's almost as if a whitemale America say O.K. black folks have human & civil rights am I suppose to support them? I'm a Aryan, Indo European, Indo Aryan, Nordic & my ideology is that my race is supreme over all other races. But that's just it, black rights ant the same as bisexual & gay rights because black folks don't feel supremacy over bisexuals & gays, how can we when there are a lot of black bisexuals & gays? So I don't feel like I have to support bisexual or gay marriage.
Like I was saying before, I still agree with 90% of President Obama agenda. The President may have lost a lil' support from me, but he has waaaaay tooooo much on the table that I agree with to lose my vote. It's like President Bush, I agreed with maybe 40% of President Bush agenda. President Bush was against Bisexual & gay marriage & I agreed with that part of his agenda, but that was only about 2% of his agenda because gay & bisexuals have been living together for years so making it legal really don't mean anything to me.
Also, like I was saying. Let's make one thing clear, President Obama & Vice President Biden support bisexual & gay marriage, not crazy bisexuals & gays acting like they don't care & there is nothing society can do to them because they been screwed up the rear.
Like I told u before, I personally feel it's tooooo many bisexual & gay people living in the closet to the point the President don't know how many votes he may lose if he don't support same sex marriage. I may not agree with same sex, but I will still vote for 90% of President Obama agenda so President Obama may have lost some support, but one thing is for sure he won a lot of votes.
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Watching one of my fav. movies the other day & one of the scenes had me cracking up & back to this topic. Look at 06:50 minutes into video of one of the scenes in Oliver Stone movie JFK. Jim Garrison is at the Airport & he's in the bathroom & it's clear that it's a set-up about to take place to make him look gay or bisexual. It reminds me of Republican Larry Craig. If u remember Larry Craig was the prominent conservative politician who had a record of anti-gay legislation. I don't know if Larry is or was Gay or a bisexual, but I know his career was destroyed after the airport bathroom incident. People are overly indicted everyday in the judicial system & they usually plead to a lesser charge to have the rest of the charges dropped. They do it to just get it over with, some plead guilty to a lesser charge because they been sitting in the county prison for months before they could get a second or third court date & don't want to take a chance of a jury trial. Craig told the public that the officer misconstrued his actions, that he was not involved in any inappropriate conduct, and had failed to seek legal counsel: "In hindsight, I should not have plead guilty. I was trying to handle this matter myself quickly and expeditiously." In an August 28, 2007, press conference in Boise, Idaho, Craig said: I am not gay. I never have been gay.... In June, I overreacted and made a poor decision. I chose to plead guilty to a lesser charge in hopes of making it go away.... Please let me apologize to my family, friends and staff and fellow Idahoans for the cloud placed over Idaho. I did nothing wrong at the Minneapolis airport. I did nothing wrong, and I regret the decision to plead guilty and the sadness that decision has brought on my wife, on my family, friends, staff and fellow Idahoans. Larry Craig career was destroyed & he was a prestigious financially secure elected official, I don't know if Larry was set-up, but the scene in the movie was sort of like his life. It's hard to believe that a prestigious elected official would go into a public restroom anyone could walk into, an airport restroom anyone could walk into & proposition a stranger for sex.
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Whatever!
I'mmmm done!
. . . . Endless . . . debate , , , not. . . . . happening . . . . . . . anymore.
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Do u know how many gays & bisexuals that fought in the the Civil War, World War 1, World War 2, Vietnam, Secret Wars, The Gulf War & the Iraq War? Do u know how many gays & bisexuals fought for this country? No & neither do I. Where do U.S. intelligence recruit from? Military, college campuses & law enforcement agencies. Do u know how many gays & bisexuals work on Wall Street? What about the intelligence community in other counties? What about the Bureau of Intelligence & Research? What about the United States Department of Treasury? What about the financial intelligence Unit? What about the psychology community? What about the Federal penitentiary Service Intelligence?
Do u know how many rich & wealthy gay, bisexual, lesbian bankers, lawyers, business men, business women & investors there are? No u don't I don't either. Do u know how many bisexuals, gays that are lawyers & work for law enforcement, drug task force, DEA, FBI CIA, NSA, Secret Service there are? No u don't & neither do I. Do u know how many gays, bisexuals & lesbians are in the academic sector? What about the medical industry or the mortgage industry? What about the credit industry? What about just in general the gays & bisexuals that belong to the local Churches & school system? Do u know how many gays, bisexuals & lesbians that belong to Global chapters of secret society organizations, fraternities & sororities? No & neither do I. -
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