I'm not gonna speak about my past problems with the government, my problems doesn't have anything to do with Eric Holder because Eric Holder wasn't in office & the incompetence was more about the individual working for the federal government manipulating others & putting their careers & legacy at risk.

I would like to say, we all grieve for agent Terry & we all hope agent Terry family & friends receive answers, but there were a lot of Mexicans that were murdered by guns sold under the past Administration Operation Wide Receiver & nobody grieves for their families & friends. If agent Terry wasn't murdered I strongly believe the ATF agents working under the past Administration Operation Wide Receiver would have continued to sell guns to Mexicans under the new name Operation Fast & Furious. I believe handshakes were made between certain ATF agents & certain Mexicans a long time ago, like the War on drugs that can't be stopped, maybe contained for a number of years, but never stopped or controlled for a long period of years. So they said, "let's make a deal." After the change in administration the ATF noticed, like the War on drugs, the administrators is like the old administrators,they only know what the operators tell them & the operators are hungry for a dept. free early retirement a couple of visa's & passports or a retirement with a lot of cash & a friendly bank overseas. Why not? The CIA sold guns in Operation Mongoose during the Kennedy Administration, we sell arms every day, they call it the black market. It's been going on for decades, but this is different because the operation was suppose to track weapons. Sure, it was going on in the new administration. But where did it start?

I believe Eric Holder believed what he was told.  I agree with about 30% to 35% of the Republicans agenda, it's not enough to earn my vote, but my point is if I agree with 30% to 35% of the Republicans agenda than President Obama & his Administration, including Eric Holder, agree with them as well. I think Eric Holder & a lot of folks at the Department of Justice trusted what the ATF agents told them & they trusted a lot of folks that they knew to be good honest people that worked under President Bush Administration.

I also would like to add, President Obama is facing a tremendous amount of scrutiny by Republicans, but President Clinton also faced a great deal of scrutiny during re-election, more than President Obama, but in the end this Nation decided that President Clinton was the best man for the job to run this Nation. President Obama know history very well & will grow from that part of history. I think President Obama Administration is not receiving enough credit for killing high ranking terrorist than the past Administration. I think the reason for that is because President Obama Administration know it's a blow for all of America & not just a political party. I also think President Obama Administration is not receiving enough credit for focusing on the United States of America problems instead of government contract corporations special interest overseas. To put it bluntly, I don't think President Obama agenda & his efforts to execute his agenda is receiving enough credit from America, mainly the media.

The articles below are from Larry Margasak & Pete Yost for Huff Post Politics.

"This is pure politics," Carney said.
"Remarkably the chairman of the committee involved here has asserted that he has no evidence that the attorney general knew of Operation Fast and Furious or did anything but take the right action when he learned of it.
"No evidence, so if you have no evidence as he has stated now about the White House and the attorney general, what else could this be but politics?"

More than 100 Democrats walked out of the House chamber to boycott the first of two contempt votes, saying Republicans were more interested in shameful election-year politics than document.


House Republicans won a historic political fight to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress, but the GOP probably is still a long way from obtaining documents it wants in an investigation of a bungled Justice Department gun-tracking operation.

In a letter to House Speaker John Boehner, the department says that it will not bring the congressional contempt citation against Holder to a federal grand jury and that it will take no other action to prosecute the attorney general.


Deputy Attorney General James Cole says the decision is in line with long-standing Justice Department practice across administrations of both political parties.

There are two routes to enforcing the contempt citations approved by the House on Thursday, a criminal prosecution and a civil lawsuit, although the White House on Friday virtually shut down the criminal path. The civil route through the courts would not be resolved anytime soon.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said Justice Department going back to the administration of President Ronald Reagan has not pursued prosecutions in contempt cases involving assertions of executive privilege. President Barack Obama invoked a broad form of the privilege to prevent sending department documents to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. The chairman, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., is leading the effort to get the material related to Operation Fast and Furious.

About five hours after the court ruled, with news sites flooded with information about the health care ruling, the House voted 255-67 to declare Holder in criminal contempt.

The matter goes to the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, who works under Holder.

A second vote of 258-95 held Holder in civil contempt and authorized the House to file a lawsuit.

In past cases, courts have been reluctant to settle disputes between the executive and legislative branches of government.

The issue became more complicated when Obama invoked a broad form of executive privilege, a legal position that is designed to keep private certain communications of executive branch agencies.

My reply can't be seen, let's try this again. I understand some folks can't handle replies sometime.

First, everybody post news stories on this forum.

Where do u see anything about Eric Holder or President Obama ethnicity & being attacked because of their ethnicity in my post?

What do laws & policy being passed have to do with faith & Christianity? 
Why would Romney or President Obama need to be saved? Because u said so. lol. Neither one of them look like God is condemning them.

U said you're praying for a Christian president? I don't recall that u have to come from Bethlehem to become President of the United States. When u decide who's gonna be CEO of a Fortune 500 corporation, male or female, their religious views are not discussed. The President of the United States of America is an elected official many earlier presidents formal church membership was forestalled until they left office; and in several cases a president never I joined any church.

U voted because President Obama was black?

I voted on agenda. I agreed with maybe 30% to 35% of John McCain agenda. I  agreed with maybe 85% & to 90% of President Obama agenda. I respected both 110% as a person.

God & religion is the most profitable business in America so how can anyone evict God out of everything?

U said God hates a liar, there are a lot of liars in the Church community. Christians. Baptist, Muslims, Catholics all lie.

My reply can't be seen so let's try this again. I understand some folks can't handle replies sometime.
I know why my reply can't be seen. I understand some folks can't handle replies sometime.

First, everybody post news stories on this forum. Do u run this website? If so u can block folks from posting.
Where do u see anything about Eric Holder or President Obama ethnicity & being attacked because of their ethnicity in my post?

What do laws & policy being passed have to do with faith & Christianity?
I don't see how Romney or President Obama would have to be saved. Neither one of them look like God is condemning them.

First, everybody post news stories on this forum. Do u run this website? If so u can block folks from posting.
Where do u see anything about Eric Holder or President Obama ethnicity & being attacked because of their ethnicity in my post?

What do laws & policy being passed have to do with faith & Christianity?
I don't see how Romney or President Obama would have to be saved. Neither one of them look like God is condemning them.

I don't recall the president of the United States have to come from Bethlehem. For many earlier presidents, however, formal church membership was forestalled until they left office; and in several cases a president never Ijoined any church.
God & religion is the most profitable business in America so how can evict God out of everything?

U voted because President Obama was black, I voted on agenda. I agreed with maybe 30% to 35% of John McCain agenda. I  agreed with maybe 85% to 95% of President Obama agenda. I respected both 110% as a person.

When u decide on who's gonna be CEO of a Fortune 500 corporation, male or female, their religious views are not discussed.

U said God hates a liar,  Christians. Baptist, Muslims, Catholics all lie. 

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Since this site seems to be about Christian's views, its not or should not be about Holder being black and someone is attacking him or President Obama as a black president.  Too many laws is being passed that is trying to free america from Christainity under Obama.  I wanted to see a black president in 2008.  I got one.  Now i'm praying for a Christian president who ain't trying to evict God out of everything.  God would still have to SAVE Obama or Rommney cause neither one have a bible consciense.

A black president don't matter no more.   I didn't think Obama's beliefs would be so against the bible when he told us he was a Christian.  God hates a liar..

First, everybody post news stories on this forum. Do u run this website? If so u can block folks from posting.

Where do u see anything about Eric Holder or President Obama ethnicity & being attacked because of their ethnicity in my post?

What do laws & policy being passed have to do with faith & Christianity?

I don't see how Romney or President Obama would have to be saved by God, they don't look like they're condemned by God to me.

I didn't vote for a black President, I voted on agenda. I agreed with 25% of McCain agenda & I agreed with 85% to 90% of President Obama agenda. I wasn't picking a Reverend or a Pastor for President. When u select a person to run an American Fortune 500 company his religion is not in question. The President of The United States is an elected official. Where does it say that the President of America, he or she, has to be born in Jerusalem or in the West Bank of Bethlehem? For many earlier presidents, formal church membership was forestalled until they left office, and in several cases a president never joined any church, this is fact.

God is in everything in America because religion & God is an easy sell. Religion is a very easy buck in America.

God hates a liar, but the Church & the Christian, Baptist, Catholic, Muslim, communities are filled with lairs.

My reply can't be seen so let's try this again. I understand some folks can't handle replies sometime.

I know why my reply can't be seen. I understand some folks can't handle replies sometime.
First, everybody post news stories on this forum. Do u run this website? If so u can block folks from posting.
Where do u see anything about Eric Holder or President Obama ethnicity & being attacked because of their ethnicity in my post?

What do laws & policy being passed have to do with faith & Christianity?
I don't see how Romney or President Obama would have to be saved. Neither one of them look like God is condemning them.

First, everybody post news stories on this forum. Do u run this website? If so u can block folks from posting.
Where do u see anything about Eric Holder or President Obama ethnicity & being attacked because of their ethnicity in my post?

What do laws & policy being passed have to do with faith & Christianity?
I don't see how Romney or President Obama would have to be saved. Neither one of them look like God is condemning them.

I don't recall the president of the United States have to come from Bethlehem. For many earlier presidents, however, formal church membership was forestalled until they left office; and in several cases a president never Ijoined any church.

God & religion is the most profitable business in America so how can evict God out of everything?
U voted because President Obama was black, I voted on agenda. I agreed with maybe 30% to 35% of John McCain agenda. I  agreed with maybe 85% to 95% of President Obama agenda. I respected both 110% as a person.

When u decide on who's gonna be CEO of a Fortune 500 corporation, male or female, their religious views are not discussed.

U said God hates a liar,  Christians. Baptist, Muslims, Catholics all lie. 

He, Obama, wasn't interviewing for the CEO of a F500 company, He was seeking the Oval office and claimed his religious experience freely without anyone twisting his arm.   Bill Clinton sought and received black church votes without confessing Christ - so did Hillary and that level of honesty is better than the one pretending to follow Christ just to pull one over on God's people.  Especially when his soul was already bought and paid for by the gay/hollywood lobby

Brother, He confessed his own Christian conversion to the Judeo-Christian God thru faith and acceptance of the Christian 'Christ".  And since you choose to throw rocks at Christians, Baptist, etc, AND IN A BACK-HANDED WAY, at me;  then you've answered my earlier question about being a christian or secularlist on another post.  Since politics weigh more heavily with you as Christianity, I have lost interest in this exchange to you. 

Be wary of a leader with little or no moral compass governed by Jehovah.  A nation's king or their priest(s) either serve God or Satan no matter how secular or sophisticated they think they are.  In the mind of such a dangerous man/woman either God is Lord or they are.  

Finally, when and if I lie - I repent, He forgives and restores.  Has Obama REPENTED for lying about his stance and putting his policies above God's?  

. . . CRICKETS. . .

Nothing to do with the topic.

U said, I answered your earlier question about being a Christian or secularlist on another post. No, I didn't. I said my relationship with God was personal, but keep passing judgement.

I'm not throwing rocks at Christians, Baptists, etc. I spoke fact, If u like we can go further off the subject & I can post the many news articles of the convicted Christians, Baptists, etc. who are serving time in State & Federal.

Hay! Light bulb!

It's power in numbers & Christians have major numbers & u seem to be an outstanding Christian that knows what it takes to be President. U have a great moral compass, maybe u should run for President. I dunnow, but I don't think folks will expect u to walk on water or anything like that.

The Constitution only restricts from SERVING as President:
1. Anyone who has previously been elected to the Office of President twice
2. Anyone who has previously been elected to the Office of President once AND served more than half of the term for which someone else was elected. An example of this would be a Vice-President taking over for a President who has died or otherwise been removed from office.

U only have to be 35 years of age & a natural born US Citizen. Think of all the money u can raise from every Christian follower that believe in your agenda. Think of the good u could do, not only for this nation but the world. U speak to God, so I doubt if other Christians, Baptist or Catholics would judge your background. Darn, I wish we could have just stuck to Eric Holder & the topic of the post.

Hi Anthony,

They are coming after the Atty General Eric Holder as a surrogate for Barack Obama.  These are some of the most hateful (so called Christian) politicians I have ever seen in my life.  Its sad.

When I think about it to be very honest - anyone running for office who is a God fearing Christian would be elected to that office.

You have people that know about Jesus - have been baptized in his name - and dont curse or committ adultery but they may have other issues.  So thats life in American politics.

Yes, the other side is as sinful as Obama or more so.

But they are going after him because they are doing whatever they can to minimize Barack's presidency.  They cant stand having a black man leading this country and it scares them to no end.

Then you have black folk that are robots and if a white man fears a black man - then to get love from white people and to feel legitimate they will sing and dance and speak things that they hope will recieve a pat on the head.

But yeah - only because Eric Holder is a black man apart of this administration - the scared racist republicans are coming after him.

And this is coming from someone who wont be voting for my beloved Obama.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sis. Dedre

(or is it Deidre?):

You may want to consider that many AAs, like white Evangelicals, are willing to concede some spiritual ideals when voting for their party.  if their party is guilty of a religious offense, they are apt to overlook it for one or other social issues  or party platform.   From reading your answers, It seems its more harmful now by your description because we're living in 'end times'.   Most of this "harm" is being done to the country and "KINGDOM of God" by a black president even though we're not a theocratic nation by constitution.    Your disappointment and shame, might lead to anger and then hate if you don't catch it before it festers in you  . .so you should pray.

I know how you feel, you were proud of him and loved his accomplishments for all AAs; but you, I and many others did not count the cost he has to pay to the powers that be.  We can't condone him compromising God's word in his policies being a Christian pres,  But he owes a debt he has to repay and that's more important to him now, 

By the way, just overlook Bro. Anthony's "catty" remarks about "walking on water" and "you should run".  Anyone can see you are committed heart and soul.   That should be applauded not ridiculed.  Some would love Obama/Demo Party no matter what.  If that's passing judgement, so be it.   I'm speaking the truth, too

All of this is on this topic in different ways.

He shouldn't be defended just because he's black, only if he's offered proof he's innocent.  Remember, YOU CRITICIZED her FOR  VOTING FOR Obama cause he's black.. don't exonerate Holder for just being persecuted as the first black AG; so follow your own advice.  

You said,  ". . . I spoke fact, If u like we can go further off the subject & I can post the many news articles of the convicted Christians, Baptists, etc. who are serving time in State & Federal., . . And I'll help you name some Priests guilty of pedophilia, but make sure you list some GBT child molesters who sued, persecuted and gay-lobbied their way into groups like the Boy Scouts so they could "minister to the little boys also.  Jesus can love and forgive them while they are in jail.

And Brother,. . .since you did go so off topic as well bashing Christians for falling short . . . so' what if they do?    Moses, the Lawgiver was a murderer,  Samson the Judge was a whore monger, Peter the main disciple cursed blue streaks and told bold faced lies,  Mary Magdalene, the one True Believer of 1st Day was a "hoochie",  the Apostle Paul, writer of two-thirds of the New Testament, was an accessory to murder.. . .these people repented and came to God or back to God before, during or after their sin.  

That's the point, convicted Christians aren't immune from failure or above failing.   They're forgiven if they confess their faults and acknowledge they were sinners.    Brother, . . Jesus did jail time and went on trial for sorcery.  You would serve people,  (anyone bound in sin),  that you are so zealously defending by leading them to Christ instead of upholding them in their wrong doing,  Since you are a believer, they need a witness for Jesus Christ, not someone who won't confront them in love and tell them Romans 6:23. 

Jesus meant for us to witness to sinners, not keep our personal relationship with him tucked away so it won't offend these same folks. 

I really don't feel this is worthy of a response, mainly because I already addressed it!

Nowhere in my post do u see the words that there after Eric Holder because he's BLACK! But a lot of Caucasian democrats seem to think so. Phil u said I criticized her? I don't know if it's a her or a he, it could be u as far as I'm concerned. I"ll I see is a name next to nothing. I posted this on so many websites & the response stayed with the topic & had nothing to do with what the two or one of u are talking about. I would give u the other websites, but I don't feel like being internet stalked. No since responding to something I already responded to.

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