Should a pastor that spends most of his time preaching and teaching get paid for what God has him to do? I know what the scriptures says about this, but would you pastor for free?

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ASLO LEAN NOT TO YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING BUT GOD OK
Greetings Sis. Beth,

Are you serious with some of your comments. If men and women of God
cannot have healthy discussions without insulting one another than
they souldnt post anything at all.

The bible tells us to reason together, the says a soft answer turns
away wrath. Again my threads concerning this issue is there. I would
ask that you study those scriptures before you give an opinion.

We all are learning. This is why I try to give a thoughtful answer not
the first thing that comes to my mind.

In Christ
Pastor R. Phillips Sr.
Brother Phillips you shouldn't take it personal ...as for a soft answer turning away wrath lol peace my brother relax you are jumping to conculsion here i don't think you understand your point because it off...if the truth is insulting hummm i just learned some from you today lol you would like for me to study the scriptures lol spoking like a man that leans to his own understanding however i keep praying and asking God give me an understanding i think i will be all right lol for we do nothing of ourselves.......did you not know one's opinion is a sign that you are leaning to your own understanding....now i will not reply to you however i will pray that God gives you wisdom and understand according to the word of God and not self or man doctrine be bless brother Phillips
Brother Greene, thanks for the sharpening iron information as for me watering down the doctrine ....that is for false Preachers/teachers...ect. as for saving a lot of heat i am sure the lake of fire will take care of that ....i am not from the get along gang, if i shall walk along and be different so be it for the word of God godd conversation means nothing to me its about saving souls not how well i can speak or how well arounded my studies, researchs, are using books and dictionary to help me with the word of God or help me go againist he word of God or to make me look so smart so that i can feel my glory and not give the glory to God
Greetings Sis. Beth Sue,

I am not insulted at all. I just think leaning to my own understanding
that a minister of the Gospel should use wisdom in there postings.
Sister all I am saying is tone down a bit.

Again at the end of the day you must study as well as pray.
There are far too many christians who feel studying is not important.
I put study the scriptures in my postings not trying to offend
anyone but simply just to say look at what the bible says.

Because this is our foundation and if you have know foundation
how can you hear God.
Now who said you was insluting lol it wasn't me....i don't think you pay attention to what you are saying nor do i think you have a good understanding like i said before relax ok let it go its alright....you can study all day long but except God gives you an understanding you will continue to go back and forward ok and getting nowhere brother so on that note i will no long be apart of you pity misunderstanding of you own way of studying ....your advice needs pray and i shall pray for you be bless ...the devil is a lie i will not continue on this matter it is not becoming of God on your part.
Mr Phillips writes ~~~In sincerity~~
I guess you realize I am not too superficial~~ I only write from the heart So.... Well time to expose some of myself..that is what the Master asked me to do: Young man I was so front line for the cause you have no idea..how front line..all outside the four walls of Christendom doing the Rubber meets the road stuff..with all the persecution that goes with it...
I funded ALL of my outreach from entrepreneur skills developed over many years Most of them various business backed outreaches. One where we a few people working together fed 57,000 people in one food line..approx 800,000 lbs of fresh foods~~No denomination, No hustle the flock with fancy words.. Just do it~~
Also we ran a 334 kid Childrens buss outreach and five days a week in the Parks doing puppet shows etc { the Night before each outreach four days a week we would hand out 400 flyers to get the kids there},...and finally on Shabbat my team did a Saturdays bussed in childrens church...Sunday we built up next weeks lesson and monday it started all over again

All of this an d more from the back poocket a very thin shoestring style back pocket: So really anybody can do it...Just serve G-d and not the Flesh.


Personally, I was just sick and tired of seeing nothing happen sitting on the boards of agencies~in discussions with Mayors and staff,christian boards getting board.
United way Vision 2020 in 93 gave me access to valuable demographic information( and so I rolled up my sleeves and went front line.)


Even so it was not good enouth to move the hand of G-d and since He Declared He does not take a bribe Deuteronomy 10:v17 All my Trinkets did nothing...So One day when i thought I would show HaShem how serious I was,...So I said with arms outstreached I would nail the hinderances in my life to the cross///The Hard response back still shakes me~ " I want you on the Cross"

And so HaShem ripped, stripped , and tripped me to my own cross it seems.

Keep in mind I did all the Right things...Ha Shem wanted the One Place I would Not give Him .....My Heart to sit upon" the one place that G-d cannot have unless we give it to Him~
There is a difference in playing the Servant position and Becoming the Ingrafted Servant soley to the One even unto Martyrdom it seems.
Do you trust me He asked? It was then having been on that road before it was going to be costly

Remember I had already Crossed all the "Ts" and went to all the right meetings and gave all the big bucks and did all that the children are suppose to do....Or so we are taught
All but Emunah= Faithfulness to the ONE,..... Shema Israel Deut 6:v4-9]
Then the Master showed up with Son' get into me so I can get into you Or destruction is at your door" it was all surrounded in Eccl: 5:v1-7..it was time to sit up and shut up and allow the Creator of my life to put me in a cave of learning...

Personally I had thought I had a few trips through the wilderness Yet it was not so.....If you really want to know how I thought some six or seven years ago read the Book on my page{Free-E-Book} Really it is a Love Journey[ Hope you enjoy} ....But back to the case before us: at this juncture I have seen enough Historical evidence here or a chapter there or a writing from the Fathers of the Imperial church of Rome to take down X-ianism to a serious consideration: That aside from all of Pauls stuff being in a battle with Hellenistic Proto-Agnostic theology...He is a whole different teaching than Yeshua was teaching anyway.
Yeshua was in a fight with the House of Shammai and was trying to save the Temple
Simply in Jewish thought it was a Baal Teshuvah movement"

That simply is a movement to bring people back to G-d
For instance; According to Jewish sources, {Please remember that Mar Yeshua ben Yoseph aka J-sus was a Hebrew sage a product of his generation and conceptualized beliefs}

Those beliefs and the way he communicated looks IIMHO that he was a Student of Rav Hillel ~ The House of hillel...who were/was in direct conflict with the house of Shammai. They were the ruling party in control of the Temple grounds and Had the Sacarri men/Dagger men as back up ( they had previously killed 80 of the Navi's of Bet Hillel~~Yeshua references it in as discourse with the Shammai/ pharisees<>

Ok so far?<>I have no problem myself with the possibility of Yeshua being the Messiah to his generation ~Why Because the Sages have always taught that in every generation their are thirty six born..and out of which the Moshiach would arise...IF it were the time.

Yeshua makes a statement to that~~"you have missed your Visitation" There it is right there~~~Just like Ezekiel cried out~ " I cannot Arise because of the gross transgressions from Torah obedience..

It is my research teams thought after going through more than five thousand plus historical documents..books etc.{Trust me Rome may have burned history...but the Hebrews kept it right close to home, every Aleph and Tav} can show the truth to those who can hear the cry to come out of her"
Dr. Biven was teaching the Hebrew way too read the Text for years on TBN...before they kicked him to the curb..It does not excite the people enough to pay for all those stations I guess...Truth is freely received from HaShem and the Brides instructions are already set in Stone at Has Sinai..to the Bride Israel.

So what is a Messiah in the terms of Hasidic Judaism as Yeshua.

The Messiah will be born of human parents and possess normal physical attributes like other people. He will not be a demi-god, (1) nor will he possess supernatural qualities.

The Messiah must be descended on his father’s side from King David (see Genesis 49:10 and Isaiah 11:1).
According to the Christian claim that J-sus was the product of a virgin birth, he had no father—and thus could not have possibly fulfilled the messianic requirement of being descended on his father’s side from King David!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Ok so far...

1) Maimonides devotes much of the “Guide for the Perplexed” to the fundamental idea that G-d is incorporeal, meaning that He assumes no physical form.

Elohim is Eternal, above time.

He is Infinite, beyond space.
He cannot be born, and cannot die.
Saying that G-d assumes human form makes Gd small, diminishing both His unity and His divinity. As the Torah says: “G-d is not a mortal” (Numbers 23:19).

As in all Midrash it follows the thread of According to the Bible~~~

Hope all that ramble has a bit of value or help
In any case enjoy your journey

My Last thought..Your real religion before your forefaathers were sold off by the controllers of North Afrika...you most likely were Ethiopian/Yeminite~Hebrew in accordance with Mosaic Law and observing the Real seven festivals unto HaShem...then during and after Slavery.....the only religion you had to cling to because the Hebrew Soul within,... the Jewish Nefesh within is so in love with the Master you have this intimate desire to be with G-d...

However G-d is Not J-sus...and the Man Yeshua never claimed to be G-d except to introduce a halachah to bring forth an open heaven and accuir the authority to bring forth a "Miracle" The Blind Man and Lazerus.
Being in the Healing and deliverence arena for many decades I always looked for the Entrance into the Ruach hakodesh..that is where the miracles come from
Read some of Wigglesworth books it is littered with him Obtaining the open heaven' ~~ Refuah / Health and Healing.
That is the Adam Qadmon that John talks about...it is the Essence within that Paul talks about,... it is the kingdom of G-d within you,.. that is where the Divine power comes from within, unlocked by Obedience and intimacy.
Not in how well we polish our act so we can tickle the ears and fleece the flocks/////No it is where serious men of Adonai needing no misconstruction or Color divisions between them All they want is to explore every detail of the Tapestry of His love raining down upon us All we have to do is Open our eyes to see it.

Yes G-d is opur source..But seek ye first the meleck of Adonai and then all these other things you desire will be given unto you"

Really it is all about the Marriage at Sinai...second to a Sage it is all about rich study and really Intellegence to go out and Repair the world / Tikkun Olam//

Study with the Jews and you hear much about the Yetzer Harah...Teshuvah...and Tzedakah
Overcoming the Evil inclination within...Return to G-d{ All Yeshua taught as to being saved was the Parable of the Prodical..all he did was overcome his pride...and do what????...Simply Return~~~end of story No special baptism no special attendence to a certain church Just Return~ then go and study to Show they self approved"
Gretings Bro. Terry

I thank you for your thoughts and insights. As well as everyone else.
You made a lot lot of great comments.

But still my final conclusion according to the Bible, anyone in service to
the Lord should should have a salary or be compensated.

1 Cor. 9: 12-15

Again at the end of the day all I have is scripture.

In Christ
Pastor R. Phillips Sr.
Mr Phillips writes:"understand that there are some Jewish folks awaiting the temple."
Only about Fourteen Million at last count not to forget there is a lot more hidden in the Diaspora Read Genesis chapters 45-49 they are a good read Manasseh and Ephraim is a key to understanding..WhoYOU are...and what your ancestral religion actually is:

But really there is only 600,000 Souls awaiting the Geluah....and at the end of the Day it is the Man of the Adam Qadmon...so there you have it



~ We are all One in One
Kahl Yisrael arevim zeh bazeh
All Israel is responsible for one another"

Shema Israel
Phillips my brother, you gave 1 Cor 9: 12-15 which really don't support Pastors getting paid ..now let me help you out, take a look at verse 18, What is my reward then? [Verily] that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.KEY WORDS HERE ---WITHOUT CHARE-- NEXT--KEY WORDS HERE--ABUSE NOT--

now lets look at verse 13, Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live [of the things] of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?

if you don't live by the word of God how can you preach the word of God honestly and the temple of God is holy.......they which wait at the altar.....THE KEY WORD IN THIS IS---(THEY) now we all know everyone comes to the altar not just Pastors ok (they is whosoever will) i know many saint of God who wait at the altar and are therefore partakers of God blessing and his words.....now if you are using to to justify Pastor being paid what a low down dirty shame...... Malachi 3:8-10, Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say , Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. 9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. 10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. ....AND YOU ASK YOURSELVES SHOULD A PASTOR GET PAID, ..IN TITHES AND OFFERINGS AND YOU MAY SAY ..WHEREIN HAVE WE ROBBED GOD , THEY PAID US IN LOVE OFFERING AT THE ALTAR SO THAT IS NOT ROBBING GOD...WHEN THE WORD OF GOD PLAINLY SAYS BRING ALL TITHES TO THE STOREHOUSE/CHURCH THAT THERE MAY BE MEAT IN MINE HOUSE ----NOT YOUR HOUSE OK-----SAY THE LORD GOD OF HOST OK NOW FALSE PASTORS SAYS BRING YOUR TITHES AND OFFERING UNTO ME TO THAT IT WILL TAKE OF ME AND MY FAMILY
NOW THE LORD OF HOST SAYS HE WILL POUR YOU OUT A BLESSING ...BUT YOU WANT YOUR REWARD RIGHT NOW INSTEAD KEEPING INTOT HE STOREHOUSE/CHURCH TO HELP THOSE THAT GIVE SO IT CAN BE GIVING BACK TO THEM IN THE TIME OF NEED YOU TAKE IT FOR YOURSELF...WHAT A SHAME WHAT A SHAME
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Ya'akov // ShekinahLife.com
YES, A PASTER SOULD GET PAID IT IS GOD,S WILL FOR THE PASTER TO BE BLESSED.

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