The Great "Bunny" Idol - Black Preaching Network2024-03-29T15:54:30Zhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/the-great-bunny-idol?commentId=916966%3AComment%3A1285082&feed=yes&xn_auth=noYou really didn't get the jok…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-04-19:916966:Comment:12969622010-04-19T19:06:19.248ZArchbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greenehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ArchbishopTrevorElihu
You really didn't get the joke behind the posting then, did you? Why not re-read it?<br />
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Besides, you still didn't respond to the fact that there were never any Oneness Bible translators.....EVER!! Can you prove otherwise?
You really didn't get the joke behind the posting then, did you? Why not re-read it?<br />
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Besides, you still didn't respond to the fact that there were never any Oneness Bible translators.....EVER!! Can you prove otherwise? No Trevor I am talking about…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-04-19:916966:Comment:12967352010-04-19T14:53:16.497ZDella Mortonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/DellaMorton
No Trevor I am talking about the word of God! We have not changed the King James version of the Bible! To say that we do is FALSE! I know what we believe and it's the word of God. WORD FOR WORD! Nice try Trevor! The REAL TRUTH IS YOUR A FOLLOWER OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH WHICH CHANGED THE WORD INTO A LIE ABOUT YOUR TRINITY!<br />
READ HISTORY ON IT> GOOGLE SEARCH MATTHEW 28:19 and 1 John 5:7 and you will find a whole wealth of info on HOW It was changed by man!<br />
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No Trevor I am talking about the word of God! We have not changed the King James version of the Bible! To say that we do is FALSE! I know what we believe and it's the word of God. WORD FOR WORD! Nice try Trevor! The REAL TRUTH IS YOUR A FOLLOWER OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH WHICH CHANGED THE WORD INTO A LIE ABOUT YOUR TRINITY!<br />
READ HISTORY ON IT> GOOGLE SEARCH MATTHEW 28:19 and 1 John 5:7 and you will find a whole wealth of info on HOW It was changed by man!<br />
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Trevor: If I have insulted you in anyway Please Forgive me! I do not ignore your postings. I read them. I agree to disagree on the interpretation of the scriptures you use. Just because I don't comment about them doesn't mean I am ignoring what you are saying and If I disagree I have posted why I disagree in some of my posts.<br />
The Lord Jesus Bless you Today.
Trevor: If I have insulted you in anyway Please Forgive me! I do not ignore your postings. I read them. I agree to disagree on the interpretation of the scriptures you use. Just because I don't comment about them doesn't mean I am ignoring what you are saying and If I disagree I have posted why I disagree in some of my posts.<br />
The Lord Jesus Bless you Today. This is cute, but you have to…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-04-19:916966:Comment:12967252010-04-19T14:34:44.166ZArchbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greenehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ArchbishopTrevorElihu
This is cute, but you have totally ignored my posting. To hijack my posting here, then to falsely accuse me of arrogance and pride, and then to finally ignore my response to all of your doctrine is a flat out insult.
This is cute, but you have totally ignored my posting. To hijack my posting here, then to falsely accuse me of arrogance and pride, and then to finally ignore my response to all of your doctrine is a flat out insult. The Bible teaches that God is…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-04-19:916966:Comment:12963562010-04-19T03:08:47.524ZDella Mortonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/DellaMorton
The Bible teaches that God is an invisible Spirit, yet it also describes Him in terms that relate to the human body. Many Trinitarians use these descriptions to support their doctrine, particularly passages that speak of the right hand of God and the face of God. Let us investigate what the Bible means by these terms.<br />
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John 4:24 says, "God is a Spirit," or "God is spirit" (NIV). This means His eternal essence is not human or physical. Apart from the Incarnation, God does not have a physical…
The Bible teaches that God is an invisible Spirit, yet it also describes Him in terms that relate to the human body. Many Trinitarians use these descriptions to support their doctrine, particularly passages that speak of the right hand of God and the face of God. Let us investigate what the Bible means by these terms.<br />
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John 4:24 says, "God is a Spirit," or "God is spirit" (NIV). This means His eternal essence is not human or physical. Apart from the Incarnation, God does not have a physical body. "A spirit hath not flesh and bones" (Luke 24:39). God the Father is not "flesh and blood" (Matthew 16:17).<br />
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Because He is a Spirit, God is invisible to humans. "No man hath seen God at any time" (John 1:1. "No man hath seen, nor can see" Him (I Timothy 6:16).<br />
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Moreover, the Bible teaches that God is omnipresent: His Spirit fills the universe. "Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea; even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me" (Psalm 139:7-10).<br />
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These facts about God show that we cannot understand the physical descriptions of Him in a grossly "letteristic" way. We are to interpret the Bible according to the ordinary, apparent, grammatical, historical meaning of its words, just as we do with other forms of speech and writing. In doing so, we will recognize that all human communication, including the Bible, uses figurative language. We are not free to impose an allegorical interpretation upon Scripture, but when the Bible itself indicates that we are to understand certain phrases or passages in a figurative way, then that is how we must interpret them.<br />
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When we read about God's eyes, nostrils, heart, feet, hands, and wings, it is clear from the rest of Scripture that we are not dealing with a human, beast, or fowl. The Bible does not use these terms to describe a physical being, but to give us insight into the nature, character, and attributes of God. For instance, God expresses His sovereignty by saying, "The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool" (Isaiah 66:1). The Bible describes God's miraculous power as "the finger of God" and "the blast of thy nostrils" (Exodus 8:19;15:; His omniscience and omnipresence by saying, "The eyes of the LORD are in every place" (Proverbs 15:3); His protection by speaking of "the shadow of thy wings" (Psalm 36:7); and His sorrow over human sin as having grieved him at his heart" (Genesis 6:6).<br />
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It would be foolish to conclude from these passages that God is a giant who props up His feet on the North Pole, blows air from His nostrils, focuses his eyes to see us, uses wings to fly, and has a blood-pumping organ. Rather the Bible uses concepts taken from our human experience to enable us to understand the characteristics of God's spiritual nature.<br />
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THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE RIGHT HAND<br />
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This principle is especially true when the Bible speaks of the right hand of God. Since most humans are right-handed, in most cultures the right hand signifies strength, skill, and dexterity. The very word dexterity comes from the Latin word dexter, meaning "on the right side." In ancient times, the most honored guest was seated on the right hand of the host. As a result, in Hebrew, Greek, and English the right hand is a metaphor for power and honor.<br />
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The Bible uses this metaphor repeatedly with reference to humans as well as God. Of course, in some passages the Bible uses "right" or "right hand" in its locational meaning, in contrast to "left" or "left hand. " But many times the use of "right hand" is figurative. Since God does not have a physical right hand (apart from the Incarnation) and is not confined to a physical location, when the Bible speaks of His right hand, it speaks figuratively or metaphorically.<br />
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A study of the "right hand" passages in the Bible reveals that the right hand of God represents His almighty power, His omnipotence, particularly in bestowing salvation, deliverance, victory, and preservation. "My right hand hath spanned the heavens" (Isaiah 48:13). `Thy right hand, O LORD, is become glorious in power: thy right hand, O LORD, hath dashed in pieces the enemy.... Thou stretchedst out thy right hand, the earth swallowed them" (Exodus 15:6,12). "His right hand, and his holy arm, hath gotten him the victory* (Psalm 98:1). "Thy right hand shall save me" (Psalm 138:7). "I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness" (Isaiah 41:10). There are numerous other examples where the Bible uses "right hand" as a metaphor for power. [1]<br />
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In Scripture, the right hand also signifies the position of honor, blessing, and preeminence. "At thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore" (Psalm 16:11). "Thy right hand is full of righteousness" (Psalm 48:10). "A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left" (Ecclesiastes 10:2).<br />
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When Jacob blessed Joseph's two sons, Joseph wanted him to put his right hand upon Manasseh, the older son, to signify that he would have preeminence. Joseph insisted, "This is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head" (Genesis 48:1. Jacob refused, in a reversal of normal procedure, saying, "Truly his younger brother shall be greater than he" (Genesis 48:19). (For other examples where the right hand means a position of favor or preeminence, see Exodus 29:20; Leviticus 8:23; 14:14-28; Psalm 45:9; 110:1; Jeremiah 22:24; Matthew 25:33-34.)<br />
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JESUS AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD<br />
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So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God (Mark 16:19).<br />
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Many passages in the New Testament tell us that Jesus sits on the right hand of God. As we have already seen, it would be a mistake to interpret this description to mean that Jesus sits eternally on top of a giant divine hand or at the side of another divine personage. How could we determine what is the right hand of the omnipresent Spirit of God?<br />
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The obvious purpose of this description is to exalt the Lord Jesus Christ. By using this phrase, the New Testament tells us that Jesus is not merely a man, but He is a man who has been invested with the almighty power of the indwelling Spirit of God and who has been exalted to the position of highest honor.<br />
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Since verses like Mark 16:19 speak of Jesus as being "on the right hand of God," some people suppose that in heaven they will see two divine persons, the Father and the Son, sitting or standing side by side. But no one has ever seen or can see God's invisible presence (I Timothy 6:16); no one can see God apart from Christ. Moreover, God has emphatically declared that there is no one beside Him (Isaiah 43:11 ; 44:6,. Christ is the visible "image of the invisible God," and the only way we can see the Father is to see him (Colossians 1:15; John 14:9). There is only one divine throne in heaven, and only One on that throne (Revelation 4:2; 22:3-4).<br />
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New Testament passages make clear that Jesus is "on the right hand of God" in the sense of having divine power, honor, glory, and preeminence. Jesus Himself said, "Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven" (Matthew 16:64). "Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God" (Luke 22:69). These words do not imply that we will see two divine persons in the clouds or in heaven, but one divine human person who has all he power and glory of the invisible Spirit of God.<br />
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Jesus was "by the right hand of God exalted" (Acts 2:33). He "is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him" (I Peter 1:22). God "raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is lamed, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come" Ephesians 1:20-21). "If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God" (Colossians 3:1).<br />
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When Stephen was stoned, he "saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God" (Acts 7:55). He did not see two personages, but he saw the glory of God surrounding Jesus, who was revealed in the position of supreme power and authority. While on earth Jesus appeared to be an ordinary man and He lived as such with His disciples, but after His resurrection and ascension He appeared with visible glory and power as the almighty God. Although John had been Christ's closest associate while He was on earth and knew Him well, when He saw the ascended Christ in a vision he "fell at his feet as dead" (Revelation 1:17). Unlike Christ's typical appearance on earth, John saw Him in His divine glory.<br />
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That is what Stephen beheld also. The only divine person he saw was Jesus, and the only divine person he addressed was Jesus. He said, "Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God" (Arts 7:56). He died "calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit" (Acts 7:59).<br />
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F. F. Bruce, one of the foremost evangelical theologians of the twentieth century, explained that biblical scholars past and present recognize Christ's right-hand position to be metaphoric, not physical:<br />
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Christ's present position of supremacy is described in the Pauline writings as being "at the right hand of God."... The apostles knew very well that they were using figurative language when they spoke of Christ's exaltation in these terms: they no more thought of a location on a literal throne at God's literal right hand than their twentieth-century successors do.... Martin Luther satirizes "that heaven of the fanatics ... with its golden chair and Christ seated at the Father's side, vested in a choir cope and a golden robe, as the painters love to portray him!" [2]<br />
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Several passages carry a further connotation relative to the Christ's right-hand position: they use this term to describe His present mediatorial role. "It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us" (Romans 8:34).<br />
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This does not mean that Christ has been kneeling for two thousand years, praying to some other deity. As a man, He has been glorified and has no further need to pray. As God, He never needed to pray and never had anyone to whom He could pray. Moreover, there is nothing He needs to add to the Atonement; His one sacrifice on the cross is sufficient to cover the sins of the whole world. When He said, "It is finished" and then died, His atoning work was complete (John 19:30). He "offered one sacrifice for sins for ever" the place of authority and of priestly service. For believers, he both rules and intercedes.... The rule of Christ will become actual. Meanwhile he patiently waits for the time when his enemies will be vanquished. There will then be no more opposition to Christ or his rule. [3]<br />
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[1] Deuteronomy 33:2; Job 40:14; Psalm 16:8; 17:7; 18:35; 20:6; 21:8; 44:3; 45:4; 60:5; 63:8; 73:23; 77:10; 78:54; 80:15, 17; 89:13, 25, 42; 108:6; 109:31; 118:15-16; 137:5; 139:10; Isaiah 62:8; 63:12; Lamentations 2:3-4; Ezekial 21:22; Habakkuk 2:16; Acts 5:31; Revelation 1:16.<br />
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[2] Bruce, Epistles, 132-33. The quote from Martin Luther is from Werke, Weimarer Ausgabe 23, 131.<br />
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[3] Robert Ross, "The Epistle to the Hebrews," in the Wycliffe Bible Commentary, ed. Charles Pfeiffer and Everett Harrison (Chicago: Moody Press, 1962), 1419. Enjoy your walk, ma'am!tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-04-17:916966:Comment:12951992010-04-17T22:35:19.733ZArchbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greenehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ArchbishopTrevorElihu
Enjoy your walk, ma'am!
Enjoy your walk, ma'am! Oh?? So Oneness Pentecostals…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-04-17:916966:Comment:12951952010-04-17T22:31:14.262ZArchbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greenehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ArchbishopTrevorElihu
Oh?? So Oneness Pentecostals don't believe that:<br />
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-GOD came in "three modes"?<br />
-THE FATHER was GOD alone and HE came as the Son and the Holy Spirit?<br />
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You better take a look very closely at the Statement of Faith that Oneness heretics believe. MAny believ in the Modalistic view. In fact, what is your Church's Statement of Faith?
Oh?? So Oneness Pentecostals don't believe that:<br />
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-GOD came in "three modes"?<br />
-THE FATHER was GOD alone and HE came as the Son and the Holy Spirit?<br />
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You better take a look very closely at the Statement of Faith that Oneness heretics believe. MAny believ in the Modalistic view. In fact, what is your Church's Statement of Faith? Better yet I think I will go…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-04-17:916966:Comment:12951542010-04-17T22:07:29.213ZDella Mortonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/DellaMorton
Better yet I think I will go and walk mine.Have a Great Day!
Better yet I think I will go and walk mine.Have a Great Day! BLAH BLAH BLAH! Trevor you ar…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-04-17:916966:Comment:12951522010-04-17T22:05:49.980ZDella Mortonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/DellaMorton
BLAH BLAH BLAH! Trevor you are So High Minded and lifted Up. Can't you go do something like walk your dog?
BLAH BLAH BLAH! Trevor you are So High Minded and lifted Up. Can't you go do something like walk your dog? Ms. Morton, you call this man…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-04-17:916966:Comment:12951372010-04-17T21:53:41.607ZArchbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greenehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ArchbishopTrevorElihu
Ms. Morton, you call this man an Apostolic teacher? Thats a sad excuse for one! Lets see what true apostolic Teaching is like:<br />
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<u><b>THEOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVES</b></u><br />
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<u><b>THE BIBLE:</b></u> Oneness groups have a tendency to be King James Only. Many believe that God inspired the translators of the King James Version in much the same way He inspired the original autographs. For them there is no other Bible. <u>It should also be note that knowledge of the original languages, Hebrew and Greek,…</u>
Ms. Morton, you call this man an Apostolic teacher? Thats a sad excuse for one! Lets see what true apostolic Teaching is like:<br />
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<u><b>THEOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVES</b></u><br />
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<u><b>THE BIBLE:</b></u> Oneness groups have a tendency to be King James Only. Many believe that God inspired the translators of the King James Version in much the same way He inspired the original autographs. For them there is no other Bible. <u>It should also be note that knowledge of the original languages, Hebrew and Greek, is severely lacking in Oneness Sabellian Pentecostal churches especially among their Pastorate.</u> (I have already shown videos of that, & I'll do it again if need be!)<br />
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<u>THE GODHEAD:</u> Oneness Sabellians teach that God is a solitary One. Though they agree that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are God, they do not believe that they are distinct persons. They hold that Jesus is the person as well as the being of God and that He has merely manifested Himself in three different modes. They explain that just like actors put on different masks during different parts of a play that during the Old Testament period Jesus wore the mask of the Father. When He came to earth He wore the mask of the Son, and since the resurrection He has worn the mask of the Holy Spirit.<br />
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<u><b>THE LORD JESUS CHRIST:</b></u> Oneness Sabellians teach that Christ (who was previously the Father) was the incarnate Deity that became flesh in Jesus (the physical body). They explain that when Jesus prayed to the Father this was humanity praying to His deity. In other words, Jesus (the human) was praying to Jesus (the Deity), which was inside of Him. This SCREAMS of Gnostic doctrine, for they teach that the Oneness of GOD is more of a mystery then the Trinitarian view!!<br />
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<u><b>JUSTIFICATION:</b></u> Most “Oneness churches” teach that in order to be saved one must first, reject the Biblical and historical doctrine of the Trinity (which they label as paganism) in favor of the Oneness Sabellian view. Second, you must be baptized in “Jesus’ Name” (if you have been baptized in the Trinitarian formula you must be re-baptized) Third, you must speak in tongues to be a child of God (they believe this is initial evidence that you have the Holy Spirit, which is evidence that you are saved) and fourth, follow an extra-Biblical code of holiness and then; perhaps you might be saved.<br />
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<b><u>THE BIBLE:</u></b> It must be pointed out that the King James Version of the Bible is not a Pentecostal translation, but an Anglican (Church of England) translation. <u><b>It must further be noted that ALL of the translators were Trinitarians.</b></u> In fact, the statement of faith of the KJV translators can be found in the Thirty-Nine Articles of the Anglican Church. The very first article is titled “Faith in the Holy Trinity” and states, “There is but One living and true God, everlasting, without body, parts, or passions; of infinite power, wisdom, and goodness; the Maker, and preserver of all things both visible and invisible. And in unity of this Godhead there are three persons, of one substance, power, and eternity; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.” We agree that no other translation of God’s Word has come close to the beauty and the prose of the King James Version and that it is a good and accurate translation, but, is it not passing strange that Oneness Sabellians, who believe that the most accurate English translation of the Bible, was translated by men who were <u><b>Trinitarians</b></u>?